What if the broker spread changes while you are holding a position?
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Member Since May 22, 2012 21 posts
gomoov
Jul 24 2012 at 08:22
Hello People,
I have a question about the broker spread. Let's say the current broker spread is 2, and you entered a position at that point. You are holding the position, but the spread changed to 5 for some reason. 1) Then what happens if I close the position when the spread is 5? 2) If you had a stop-loss order 3 pips below, would you be stopped out? Can anyone please clarify these with some explanation of general procedure how FX trading occurs? (bid, ask etc) Thank you!! ASB |
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Member Since Jun 06, 2012 1360 posts
stevewalker (stevewalker)
Jul 24 2012 at 08:42
Long ( Buy )
order open : Ask order close : Bid Short ( Sell ) order open : Bid order close : Ask if spread widens then it will take your SL. Trade the Trend, Defend to Price! |
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Member Since Jul 03, 2012 186 posts
TheLastBear
Jul 24 2012 at 10:17
I would highly discourage you to set a S/L three pips below where you opened your position otherwise I can imagine that you lose every trade you place.
Pax puts the X in Forex. |
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Member Since May 22, 2012 21 posts
gomoov
Jul 24 2012 at 23:52
(edited Jul 24 2012 at 23:54 )
When we are referring the 'current exchange rate', is it bid or ask? (or avg?)
And, when we say spread 'widens', if the current spread is [A------B] do you mean, [A-----------B] (A fixed) or [A------------B] (B fixed) or [A-----------------B] (the avg fixed) or just randomly the end points moving? Thanks, My apology for not being so concise. ASB |
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Member Since Jun 06, 2012 1360 posts
stevewalker (stevewalker)
Jul 25 2012 at 00:14
(edited Jul 25 2012 at 00:15 )
I hope this is not a joke
spread depends on what kind of account you trade with fix spread variabe spread variable spread+comission which type you are you trading or willing to trade? gomoov posted: When we are referring the 'current exchange rate', is it bid or ask? (or avg?) And, when we say spread 'widens', if the current spread is [A------B] do you mean, [A-----------B] (A fixed) or [A------------B] (B fixed) or [A-----------------B] (the avg fixed) or just randomly the end points moving? Thanks, My apology for not being so concise. ASB Trade the Trend, Defend to Price! |
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Member Since May 22, 2012 21 posts
gomoov
Jul 25 2012 at 00:17
It is variable spread + commission.
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Member Since Jun 06, 2012 1360 posts
stevewalker (stevewalker)
Jul 25 2012 at 00:49
Ask always > ( bigger ) then the Bid.
Ask - Bid is broker profit + comission if there is. spread widens when price move fast on news hours to protect broker or when price make direction change. is that clear? gomoov posted: It is variable spread + commission. Trade the Trend, Defend to Price! |
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Member Since May 22, 2012 21 posts
gomoov
Jul 25 2012 at 01:16
Let's suppose the current bid/ask is
ask: 1.0000 bid: 0.9990 spread = 10pip and you long @ 1.0000. If this changes to ask: 1.0030 bid: 1.0010 spread = 20pip If you close, you gain 10pip. So, widen spread doesn't necessarily mean you lose... |
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Member Since Jun 06, 2012 1360 posts
stevewalker (stevewalker)
Jul 25 2012 at 02:34
there is no way to make profit from spread change on the same data feed.
you pay spread when you open on long you pay spread when you close on short ask side is the pay spread side. when you go long @1.0000 your profit/loss will be calculated from the Bid. basicly as soon as you open the trade you will be in loss as much as the spread. first, bid should reach the ask price to BE ( break even ) 'If you close, you gain 10pip.' you open long with 'ask' and will close it with 'bid'. not with 'ask'. so there is no profit when spread changes. is that clear? gomoov posted: Let's suppose the current bid/ask is ask: 1.0000 bid: 0.9990 spread = 10pip and you long @ 1.0000. If this changes to ask: 1.0030 bid: 1.0010 spread = 20pip If you close, you gain 10pip. So, widen spread doesn't necessarily mean you lose... Trade the Trend, Defend to Price! |
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Member Since May 22, 2012 21 posts
gomoov
Jul 25 2012 at 03:44
ask: 1.0000
bid: 1.0010 difference is 10 pip... |
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