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lolik

Member Since Feb 09, 2011  5 posts lolik (lolik) Feb 11 2011 at 09:54
i will ask again...
i feel that you hide average pips per trade.
why?
it is not in your reports
and you keep saying that it is in the report.
it is not in the report!



TulipFX

Member Since Sep 23, 2010  33 posts TulipFX (TulipFX) Feb 11 2011 at 11:26
We hide nothing.

Here you can see the average pips per trade on our forward test: http://www.myfxbook.com/members/TulipFX/kangarooea/56195

Here is the whitepaper: http://tulipfx.com/downloads/KangarooEAv5_Whitepaper_Feb1.pdf

Here are full backtests which you can run through an analysis program to dig out whatever information you wish: http://tulipfx.com/downloads/Kangaroo_v5_backtests.zip

There is nothing to hide. If you want any details not specifically mentioned please feel free to do your own analysis to discover them.

lolik

Member Since Feb 09, 2011  5 posts lolik (lolik) Feb 11 2011 at 13:53
i will say it again
average pips per trade is not shown in your back testing report.
if you send me a backtesting report with fixed 0.1 lot
then the averege pips per trade will be the expected payoff value!

right now
average pips per trade is not shown in your back testing report!


bch159

Member Since Mar 08, 2010  32 posts bch159 Feb 11 2011 at 14:46
Lolik: not that I've got anything to do with TulipFX (other than having bought Kangaroo), but as I'm getting exhausted by the Vaudeville cross-talk act:

Average Win: 18.31 pips / $534.98
Average Loss: -13.27 pips / -$392.62

based on 32 seconds' analysis having uploaded the AUDUSD backtest TulipFX posted above into the myfxbook strategy analysis applet. You can see it at http://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/kangaroo-audusd/2754 - I'll leave you to do the EURUSD yourself.

If you're trying to work out the 'pip expectancy' then of course you'll need to factor the above data into the strike rate - which is also in the strategy analyser at the link above.

Before you accuse others of lying/hiding/cheating always best, in my experience, to check you're not being dense yourself... although I do understand it's easy to make that assumption in the autotrader marketplace. For what it's worth, I've found TulipFX extremely open and responsive, and a far cry from the breathless marketing approach taken by most EA vendors.

TulipFX

Member Since Sep 23, 2010  33 posts TulipFX (TulipFX) Feb 11 2011 at 15:25 (edited Feb 11 2011 at 15:30 )
lolik posted:
    i will say it again
average pips per trade is not shown in your back testing report.
if you send me a backtesting report with fixed 0.1 lot
then the averege pips per trade will be the expected payoff value!

right now
average pips per trade is not shown in your back testing report!




Hi lolik,

Backtest reports do not show these statistics, that is why you cannot find them , not because we are hiding or have deleted them.

If you wish please add the backtests statistics to excel or look to use an analysis program which has all kinds of extra data presented for you to make your decision on.

lolik

Member Since Feb 09, 2011  5 posts lolik (lolik) Feb 11 2011 at 18:05 (edited Feb 11 2011 at 18:07 )
ok
i have done this reports to check avg pips per trade :
http://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/kangaroo-eurusd-m5/2771
http://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/kangaroo-audusd/2754

for EURUSD average pips per trade is 8.06 pips per trade
for AUDUSD average pips per trade is 9.64 pips per trade

but it says in Advanced statistics that Commission is 0$ !
how come? no commission?
so, is 8.06 pips per trade is after broker took the spread(2 pips average) or before?

TulipFX

Member Since Sep 23, 2010  33 posts TulipFX (TulipFX) Feb 11 2011 at 22:01
lolik,

There is never any commission on backtests. The results are always after the spread is taken into account.

DennisL

Member Since Feb 13, 2011  5 posts DennisL Feb 13 2011 at 22:34 (edited Feb 13 2011 at 22:35 )
TulipFX,

Just wondering why in myfxbook your track record is verfied, but your trading privileges are not verified?

I love pip-peroni pizza and buttered pip-corn!
TulipFX

Member Since Sep 23, 2010  33 posts TulipFX (TulipFX) Feb 21 2011 at 16:02
Hi DennisL,

Sorry for the late reply, but I didn't notice you had commented.

This demo we have done the small trades to verify trading privileges but simply have not done the small verification trades on the live account because we'd rather not corrupt its results with these trades.

whatever

Member Since Oct 29, 2010  1 posts whatever Mar 01 2011 at 08:02
i believe you can just open the smallest size allowed and close it almost immediately, if at all u lose it wont be more than 2 pips of the smallest lot size

its not a big deal i think

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