Swing Trader PRO System (By swingtraderpro)
| Gain : | +11625.9% |
| Drawdown | 100.00% |
| Pips: | 19938.8 |
| Trades | 450 |
| Won: |
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| Lost: |
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| Type: | Real |
| Leverage: | 1:200 |
| Trading: | Manual |
Swing Trader PRO System Discussion
Member Since Jun 19, 2015
41 posts
Nov 06, 2015 at 18:14
Sorry guys I haven't been chatting here much if you need to reach me you can reach me via email.
Also it's 1 account per license so the person who asked about the group buy, it's not possible.
Also it's 1 account per license so the person who asked about the group buy, it's not possible.
Member Since Apr 25, 2015
67 posts
Nov 06, 2015 at 19:31
Pablo
Totally agreed. I think you can achieve the same win rate as the vendor. But as far as growing your account as fast you would have to be risking everything on a few trades. The system is good. But using this system you have to be very disciplined. A lot of new traders are not. You will get a lot of trade alerts. About 2-3 a day. So you have to keep your risk per trade very low to avoid margin calls. That's where I made my rookie mistakes. You have to have very good money management skills for this system. And patience. Some of the trades will last 15 days. But I think the entry and exit points are really accurate. I've been taking some money management classes and I'm going to give this system another shot. I was using at the same time as pivot trader channel and vortex. So I had way too many open trades with high drawdowns and too high lot sizes. It's amazing how bad money management can ruin even some very good systems.
Totally agreed. I think you can achieve the same win rate as the vendor. But as far as growing your account as fast you would have to be risking everything on a few trades. The system is good. But using this system you have to be very disciplined. A lot of new traders are not. You will get a lot of trade alerts. About 2-3 a day. So you have to keep your risk per trade very low to avoid margin calls. That's where I made my rookie mistakes. You have to have very good money management skills for this system. And patience. Some of the trades will last 15 days. But I think the entry and exit points are really accurate. I've been taking some money management classes and I'm going to give this system another shot. I was using at the same time as pivot trader channel and vortex. So I had way too many open trades with high drawdowns and too high lot sizes. It's amazing how bad money management can ruin even some very good systems.
Member Since Apr 25, 2015
67 posts
Nov 06, 2015 at 20:05
Pablo
Do you check for news events before you enter a trade with this system? Can someone briefly explain how to do that. Perhaps a resource where to find the news. Just to make sure your trade won't be affected
Do you check for news events before you enter a trade with this system? Can someone briefly explain how to do that. Perhaps a resource where to find the news. Just to make sure your trade won't be affected
Member Since Apr 29, 2012
10 posts
Nov 07, 2015 at 08:00
understood we thought abt trading one account per license trade demo for 2months together between as a group mate and thoroughly understand pros and cons like paolo did.
Member Since Apr 29, 2012
10 posts
Nov 07, 2015 at 08:00
MikeGC posted:
Hi SST, I support your idea and look forward to seeing how you go. Unfortunately I can't join you as yet because I have other commitments till after Christmas. Would be happy to consider it then, but am not sure how it can be shared as there is probably a license agreement and a linking code stopping this.
Perhaps Doug could advise on this matter.
Doug advised about its one account per license, we can trade one demo account together with it for 2 months MikeGC to understand this system if the system is good for us then we can go live buying another license.. p.m me mate on coordinating cheers
Member Since Sep 28, 2015
34 posts
Nov 08, 2015 at 12:19
(edited Nov 08, 2015 at 12:23)
Hello everyone hope you all well and good. I would like to know whether this system sensitive to fundamentals that as per risk events follows up is it send good signals and correctly warn the how much pips change in a particular direction ? or when sudden opportunities arrives in the market how far it helps to take that chance ? I every agreed about using this system with sound money management .
Thanks
Thanks
Nov 09, 2015 at 02:23
I think I will pass due to draw down other traders experience. 5 to 7 days is too long to keep open a trade, especially in the red going south. Trades kept open over 1-2 days is gambling unless firmly into the trend and entered on pivot or SR going into green zones. If trades are open for 5-7 days then how would you prepare for major news announcements? Maybe the indicator would be safer if reworked for lesser conditions, even to signal a fresh crossover on 2 TF's etc? No reason for week long trades with an NFP announcement coming, Your good results are luck, or your loss is assured, This represents some lost opportunity, but if it works for you as a good indicator then go for it.
Member Since Sep 28, 2015
34 posts
Nov 09, 2015 at 13:14
(edited Nov 09, 2015 at 13:15)
BigSteve posted:
I think I will pass due to draw down other traders experience. 5 to 7 days is too long to keep open a trade, especially in the red going south. Trades kept open over 1-2 days is gambling unless firmly into the trend and entered on pivot or SR going into green zones. If trades are open for 5-7 days then how would you prepare for major news announcements? Maybe the indicator would be safer if reworked for lesser conditions, even to signal a fresh crossover on 2 TF's etc? No reason for week long trades with an NFP announcement coming, Your good results are luck, or your loss is assured, This represents some lost opportunity, but if it works for you as a good indicator then go for it.
Depends on risk taking for opening positions for long time and your system calculation as well overall fundamental factors. In many cases correct to take profit in the right levels and exit with your gains. Most important is where to take profit correctly.
Nov 10, 2015 at 08:02
Hi,
For those interested in following the system performance I entered a sell trade couple of hours ago.
USDJPY price 123.407 SL 126.092 TP 121.014.
We will see.
BidSteve,
Respecting your opinion as it could not be in a different way, trades that last more than two-four days are absolutely normal for those (like me) operating in 4H or 1D timeframes. As way2Riches mentions, performance depends on your trading system and money management.
Regarding news announcements, frankly I do not care much because in the timeframes I work the impact is not so important and, more important, considering that the effect of news are uncertain sometimes the announcements benefit me and sometimes not. Therefore I do simply ignore them. Remember I do operate 18 pairs and therefore my system is not correlated to any particular currency.
For those interested in following the system performance I entered a sell trade couple of hours ago.
USDJPY price 123.407 SL 126.092 TP 121.014.
We will see.
BidSteve,
Respecting your opinion as it could not be in a different way, trades that last more than two-four days are absolutely normal for those (like me) operating in 4H or 1D timeframes. As way2Riches mentions, performance depends on your trading system and money management.
Regarding news announcements, frankly I do not care much because in the timeframes I work the impact is not so important and, more important, considering that the effect of news are uncertain sometimes the announcements benefit me and sometimes not. Therefore I do simply ignore them. Remember I do operate 18 pairs and therefore my system is not correlated to any particular currency.
Nov 10, 2015 at 15:23
Hi SST,
If you want to share the cost, why don't you form a syndicate with some mates you know and trust, tip in the cash and run it, with some joint input with Skype or some other such program.
However, it seems like you need a bit if cash to fund the trading account if the cost of the investment is going to pay, so make sure your mates have got plenty!
All the best.
If you want to share the cost, why don't you form a syndicate with some mates you know and trust, tip in the cash and run it, with some joint input with Skype or some other such program.
However, it seems like you need a bit if cash to fund the trading account if the cost of the investment is going to pay, so make sure your mates have got plenty!
All the best.
Only do, or don't. There is no try.
Member Since Apr 25, 2015
67 posts
Nov 10, 2015 at 19:19
I took that usd jpy trade too. Which currency pairs did you decide to stay away from Pablo? And why? I'm using all 30 plus gold and silver.
Member Since Sep 28, 2015
34 posts
Nov 11, 2015 at 02:08
Pablo51 posted:Hi BidSteve,
Hi,
For those interested in following the system performance I entered a sell trade couple of hours ago.
USDJPY price 123.407 SL 126.092 TP 121.014.
We will see.
BidSteve,
Respecting your opinion as it could not be in a different way, trades that last more than two-four days are absolutely normal for those (like me) operating in 4H or 1D timeframes. As way2Riches mentions, performance depends on your trading system and money management.
Regarding news announcements, frankly I do not care much because in the timeframes I work the impact is not so important and, more important, considering that the effect of news are uncertain sometimes the announcements benefit me and sometimes not. Therefore I do simply ignore them. Remember I do operate 18 pairs and therefore my system is not correlated to any particular currency.
USD / JPY still on your direction and looks great ! Its long range target for TP and we shall find out that. Regarding news I can't ignore and bigger fundamental picture this all about. Yes it sometimes however some of few risk events I am reluctant to keep my positions longer with them. If I am well position then I will move my stop above entry point to protect my profit at least not to loss all . This will protect my gain if that going very seriously against my position. This just my own observation. Its fine you are doing pairs with not correlated. Please keep update
Nov 11, 2015 at 09:21
Dionysus231 posted:
I took that usd jpy trade too. Which currency pairs did you decide to stay away from Pablo? And why? I'm using all 30 plus gold and silver.
Hi Rob,
I am using only 18 pairs selected among majors and powerful currencies. NO special reason. Simply I thought this number of currencies will give me enough number of trades not exceeding my maximum risk exposure.
Regards.
Nov 17, 2015 at 13:54
Gents, I am enjoying your dialog re this system and am pleased to see that you are making some money.
On the discussion re the effects of news events, my feeling is that it all depends on the time frame you are trading. An event may have a dramatic effect on a 1 hour chart but will be a mere blip on a daily.
However, may I ask you for some detail, please on how the system works.
Is it a black box indicator or can one adjust the parameters?
Will it work as well on any currency pair, in any time frame?
How do you set it up and use it?
What is really good about it and what is bad?
How do the drawdowns occur and can they be avoided, or minimised?
Has anyone using it got some stats on their performance? By stats I mean the win rate and risk/reward ratio. Doug's stats are pretty amazing with 88% win rate and a risk/reward ratio of nearly 6.5. This gives a mathematical expectancy of 5.6 in a world where anything around 1 is pretty good.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
On the discussion re the effects of news events, my feeling is that it all depends on the time frame you are trading. An event may have a dramatic effect on a 1 hour chart but will be a mere blip on a daily.
However, may I ask you for some detail, please on how the system works.
Is it a black box indicator or can one adjust the parameters?
Will it work as well on any currency pair, in any time frame?
How do you set it up and use it?
What is really good about it and what is bad?
How do the drawdowns occur and can they be avoided, or minimised?
Has anyone using it got some stats on their performance? By stats I mean the win rate and risk/reward ratio. Doug's stats are pretty amazing with 88% win rate and a risk/reward ratio of nearly 6.5. This gives a mathematical expectancy of 5.6 in a world where anything around 1 is pretty good.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Only do, or don't. There is no try.
Member Since Apr 29, 2012
10 posts
Nov 18, 2015 at 11:07
I have bought d system and audnzd trade short at 1.0992 yesterday with SL/TP and trailstop able to book 40pips on that one way to go
Member Since Jan 03, 2015
36 posts
Nov 21, 2015 at 07:30
I bought this system recently and thought I would give some feedback.
Initially I was wondering if I had done something wrong as I was not receiving any alerts but then I realized it was because I had only loaded the main pairs. You really need to load most of the 30 pairs.
I also found that you need to RTFM, in other words, even though alerts will generate when price hits the red or blue line, you have to confirm with Stochastic for oversold / overbought.
I have a habit of jumping straight in before waiting for the candle to close in the direction of the trade signal.
So, I have placed about 14 trades so far however I use a Trade Manager that uses a jumping stop, trail and some other useful bits and pieces. Thus with minimal effort, I have so far:
Lost 3 trades (25 pips hidden SL). Partly my fault.
Had 6 trades come back to the starting price and hit a 2 pip from base jumping SL
Had 2 trades reach close on 20 pips of which I manually closed
3 Trades currently open all nicely in the profit:
-> AUDNZD Buy 44 Pips
-> NZDUSD Sell 20 Pips
-> NZDCAD Sell 13 Pips
The above are impressive as the Spread when placing them was crazy between 2.5 and 4.3 pips. I am not impressed with this but it seems that the spread reduces when trade volume picks up.
I am letting these run although I have a Trade Manager TP of 50 pips.
My opinion is very positive on this system.
I am trading on H1.
So far I am trading micro lots on a live account and will perform another week of testing before jumping up to mini lots and working from there.
Also be aware that you will often have 3 to 6 simultaneous trades if you wish to take alerts that have Stochastic confirmation so adjust your Risk Management accordingly.
Initially I was wondering if I had done something wrong as I was not receiving any alerts but then I realized it was because I had only loaded the main pairs. You really need to load most of the 30 pairs.
I also found that you need to RTFM, in other words, even though alerts will generate when price hits the red or blue line, you have to confirm with Stochastic for oversold / overbought.
I have a habit of jumping straight in before waiting for the candle to close in the direction of the trade signal.
So, I have placed about 14 trades so far however I use a Trade Manager that uses a jumping stop, trail and some other useful bits and pieces. Thus with minimal effort, I have so far:
Lost 3 trades (25 pips hidden SL). Partly my fault.
Had 6 trades come back to the starting price and hit a 2 pip from base jumping SL
Had 2 trades reach close on 20 pips of which I manually closed
3 Trades currently open all nicely in the profit:
-> AUDNZD Buy 44 Pips
-> NZDUSD Sell 20 Pips
-> NZDCAD Sell 13 Pips
The above are impressive as the Spread when placing them was crazy between 2.5 and 4.3 pips. I am not impressed with this but it seems that the spread reduces when trade volume picks up.
I am letting these run although I have a Trade Manager TP of 50 pips.
My opinion is very positive on this system.
I am trading on H1.
So far I am trading micro lots on a live account and will perform another week of testing before jumping up to mini lots and working from there.
Also be aware that you will often have 3 to 6 simultaneous trades if you wish to take alerts that have Stochastic confirmation so adjust your Risk Management accordingly.
Member Since Jan 03, 2015
36 posts
Nov 21, 2015 at 07:31
Quick Update:
My AUDNZD just hit its 50 pips TP.
Also I run 2 MT4 trading accounts on a VPS server.
Account 1 is the 30 pairs with STP.
Account 2 is my trading account.
Both are live trading accounts.
Note that in this setup or even if you use 1 MT4 account with all 30 pairs, it is heavy on CPU resources.
My VPS runs at a constant 100% CPU. Since it uses a hypervisor and virtual CPU, it does not lock up like a physical PC would, so still works. Thus, use a VPS with at least 2 vCPU or a reasonable PC with a low latency internet link.
My AUDNZD just hit its 50 pips TP.
Also I run 2 MT4 trading accounts on a VPS server.
Account 1 is the 30 pairs with STP.
Account 2 is my trading account.
Both are live trading accounts.
Note that in this setup or even if you use 1 MT4 account with all 30 pairs, it is heavy on CPU resources.
My VPS runs at a constant 100% CPU. Since it uses a hypervisor and virtual CPU, it does not lock up like a physical PC would, so still works. Thus, use a VPS with at least 2 vCPU or a reasonable PC with a low latency internet link.
Member Since Apr 29, 2012
10 posts
Nov 21, 2015 at 07:36
Folks,
Some good news for people who had difficulties in trading swingtraderpro manually .
I have developed 100% handsfree EA software using the swingtradepro system to trade 24 x 5 automatically without missing any signal on all 30pairs.
Interested folks can revert back on p.m.
Cheers,
SST
Some good news for people who had difficulties in trading swingtraderpro manually .
I have developed 100% handsfree EA software using the swingtradepro system to trade 24 x 5 automatically without missing any signal on all 30pairs.
Interested folks can revert back on p.m.
Cheers,
SST
Member Since Apr 29, 2012
10 posts
Nov 22, 2015 at 07:40
I have customized my ea with Tp sl trailstop,users can set as inputs instead of the signal's on h4 which comes with 200pip sl/Tp and 14pip trail. Risk to reward isn't satisfying. But swing tradepro signal's are very accurate on h4..
