Tom'sEa WPFX LIVE (by TomsEaWPFXlive) Quick Stats
Gain: +282.9%
Drawdown: 46.86%
Pips: 7240.9
Trades: 3744
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Type: Real
Leverage: 1:400
Trading: Automated

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fughe

Member Since Jan 31, 2011  682 posts Antny (fughe) Jun 08 2012 at 19:01 (edited Jun 08 2012 at 19:02 )
Well, my issue is, I can't rationalize doing that when i have automated systems that give a better return with less risk. And I doubly can't rationalize doing that when I have manual systems that have track records over extended periods of time that make 2%-10% a day without excessive risk. Take my current system for example. On a 10K account using a single mini lot for each position, It gives a return of 30%-40% a month. Drawdowns are completely buried in the profit to the point of being inconsequential. Today is a perfect example. i saw 30 trade setups across 20 currency pairs. 4 of those were losers. Granted, several of the setups in the search would have been ignored due to my non-scalping policy. But even if half those trades are ignored, going by the avg...that still puts it at over 1000 pips today. But anyway....talking about other systems is a bit off topic, so I will leave it at that.

Make losses, but always come out a winner at the end.
craneliu

Member Since Nov 06, 2011  104 posts craneliu Jun 10 2012 at 03:07

   drsong123 posted:
   Hi, Fughe
Very nice stat for your system. If you can automate it and show for long period time it still maintain them, you get winner. Currently with interest rate less 1% per YEAR, Tomsea will give you month to month 2-4% without spend any of your time (time is money), what is wrong to add it to be part of your income generator? Traders got into trouble with Tomsea is because they use higher risk level trying to achieve higher return per month. This EA definitely will not get you rich in very short period of time. For 4% monthly return, it will take 10 years to turn 10k into 1 million.
ss


this is not true, please do not cheat ourselves. several 600 pip loss will not blow up our account. But several 600 pip loss eat all the profit, even negative profit figure. As today Era, the economic cycle become very short. So it take us about several month to make the profit, the huge drawdown. then from beginning again, then huge drawdown. we are enjoying the process to make the money never mind the results, right? TOMs EA does have the strategy to protect the profit. For this account on Myfxbook, at the first several months, dustin use the agressive strategy to let the account grow fast (of course with high risk, too). Otherwise, this account will almost return to original point.

craneliu

Member Since Nov 06, 2011  104 posts craneliu Jun 10 2012 at 03:09

   fughe posted:
   Well, my issue is, I can't rationalize doing that when i have automated systems that give a better return with less risk. And I doubly can't rationalize doing that when I have manual systems that have track records over extended periods of time that make 2%-10% a day without excessive risk. Take my current system for example. On a 10K account using a single mini lot for each position, It gives a return of 30%-40% a month. Drawdowns are completely buried in the profit to the point of being inconsequential. Today is a perfect example. i saw 30 trade setups across 20 currency pairs. 4 of those were losers. Granted, several of the setups in the search would have been ignored due to my non-scalping policy. But even if half those trades are ignored, going by the avg...that still puts it at over 1000 pips today. But anyway....talking about other systems is a bit off topic, so I will leave it at that.


Have interst to your EA, but need long time to prove. this is not only related to the EA strategy, but also the market volatility.

fughe

Member Since Jan 31, 2011  682 posts Antny (fughe) Jun 10 2012 at 03:36

   craneliu posted:
 Have interst to your EA, but need long time to prove. this is not only related to the EA strategy, but also the market volatility.


I totally understand that. I would be the exact same. Before my system ever makes a public offering, I will display a LIVE account that has had the system running on it a while. That is probably a few months away though.

Make losses, but always come out a winner at the end.
drsong123

Member Since Dec 28, 2011  82 posts drsong123 Jun 10 2012 at 10:24
Wow, 1000 pips per day with low DD. You definitely are out of my league.
Craneliu, I know lots people hate add on loser which is concept brain washed by mainstream guru. Who is buying when you are selling? How those smart money make money while most individuals lose? Have option selling have same equity curve as Tomsea?
ss

tradingshed

Member Since Nov 06, 2011  181 posts tradingshed Jun 10 2012 at 14:07

   drsong123 posted:
   Wow, 1000 pips per day with low DD. You definitely are out of my league.


And mine! and I guess most others also :-)

fughe

Member Since Jan 31, 2011  682 posts Antny (fughe) Jun 10 2012 at 17:55
I don't know of any system that makes a 1000 pips a day with low DD. And if you are referring to my system, I never even implied that it makes 1000 pips a day. Matter of fact, my system is not a scalper. It would have to be to trade enough to get 1000 pips every day. My system trades maybe 5 times a month on each currency pair it is running on. Sometimes, you get lucky and it gets several trades across the 20 currency pairs in one day. Which is what happened last Friday. It may not trade at all for another week or two. And it might catch only one trade ever day for the next 3 months. Or every other day. Please don't read anything into my statements like 'my system make 1000 pips a day'. To the best of my knowledge, that is impossible.

Make losses, but always come out a winner at the end.
fughe

Member Since Jan 31, 2011  682 posts Antny (fughe) Jun 10 2012 at 18:01
That said, I do have other systems that will not be automated that i have proven to avg a gain of around 5% return every day on a $10k account. But, as everyone should know....the best systems will never be made available to the public.

Make losses, but always come out a winner at the end.
doegie

Member Since Aug 25, 2011  24 posts doegie2 (doegie) Jun 12 2012 at 02:28

   drsong123 posted:
   Hi, Fughe
Very nice stat for your system. If you can automate it and show for long period time it still maintain them, you get winner. Currently with interest rate less 1% per YEAR, Tomsea will give you month to month 2-4% without spend any of your time (time is money), what is wrong to add it to be part of your income generator? Traders got into trouble with Tomsea is because they use higher risk level trying to achieve higher return per month. This EA definitely will not get you rich in very short period of time. For 4% monthly return, it will take 10 years to turn 10k into 1 million.
ss


Hey drsong123,

I respectfully disagree with your attitude. I think it is abundantly clear that Tom will blow out any account eventually, regardless of the risk settings. It's logic is fundamentally flawed, IMHO, and it will keep taking more and more trades in the wrong direction until you go broke.

Make it, or break it!
ForexScam

Member Since Mar 28, 2011  1008 posts ForexScam Jun 19 2012 at 19:28
Do these belong to the developer too? http://www.myfxbook.com/members/fxtradertom

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