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Elkart

Member Since Aug 01, 2009  941 posts Elkart (Elkart) Jul 24 2010 at 21:38
So you just carry on selling stuff that's untested and obviously doesn't work under the guise of we care for our clients...what boggles my mind the most is that there are clients at all.

Bad MQL home people...!!



Chang beer is evil.
MQLHome

Member Since Apr 20, 2010  59 posts MQLHome Group (MQLHome) Jul 24 2010 at 23:05 (edited Jul 24 2010 at 23:09 )
Elkart posted:
    So you just carry on selling stuff that's untested and obviously doesn't work under the guise of we care for our clients...what boggles my mind the most is that there are clients at all.

Bad MQL home people...!!





Dear Elkart

There are many commercial EAs on the net but as you know most of them don't show the real result of their forward test to their visitors.

Be sure that most of our customers are satisfied from our EA. We can't tell that our EA is the best but at least we are honest enough to publish the real result and try to make the EA better and send the new versions to the customers.

We have tested this EA many times on several brokers before we start to selling the EA. We are still working on it to make it better.

We will test the next version on a real account.

Thanks for your attention.

Best Regards
MQLHome Group

http://www.mqlhome.com/
Elkart

Member Since Aug 01, 2009  941 posts Elkart (Elkart) Jul 25 2010 at 06:40
And those EA's are put out by criminals and scamsters to catch the greedy. Those are full blown con's.

Just because the standard is low doesn't mean your actions are acceptable. You are selling Ea's that are performing so poorly you're not even running your own money on it!!

And you know they fail!!

Karma mate, just remember, the wheel is round, what goes around comes around. You'll pay for your actions, one way or another. Universe has a wonderful way of maintaining balance.



Chang beer is evil.
Elkart

Member Since Aug 01, 2009  941 posts Elkart (Elkart) Jul 25 2010 at 09:34 (edited Jul 25 2010 at 09:54 )
You know I have about a dozen Ea's I could sell if I took your view.

I consider the cost to my reputation to much. It would bite me if I went to a big client and they Google'ed me.

And I thinks it's morally and ethically reprehensible. You know you're selling a broken product. And you are most definitely not doing it in the interest of your clients.

Chang beer is evil.
MQLHome

Member Since Apr 20, 2010  59 posts MQLHome Group (MQLHome) Jul 25 2010 at 12:06
Dear Elkart

Thanks for your advise. We have stopped selling this EA.

Regards
MQLHome Group

http://www.mqlhome.com/
ForexSeeker

Member Since Apr 20, 2010  727 posts DoubleTrap (ForexSeeker) Jul 26 2010 at 10:58
Well, I'm sure many people still like to get this EA for free, you can put in as opp in Free EA. Sure will get many potential customer email leak.

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Elkart

Member Since Aug 01, 2009  941 posts Elkart (Elkart) Jul 26 2010 at 11:31 (edited Jul 26 2010 at 11:32 )
Not the point DoubleTrap,

If you bought a car and it didn't work what would you do? Take it back to manufacturer. They'll try fix it first and the very worst you'll get a full refund after a big fight.

Did any of these people get their money back? I doubt it.

The bought the car - it starts but won't go. The manufacturer shrugged and said oh well, though luck, we won't sell it anymore. By the way we have this new model here, we haven't driven it ourselves yet, but we think it works, should be better. Why don't you buy it and tell us...

Chang beer is evil.
ForexSeeker

Member Since Apr 20, 2010  727 posts DoubleTrap (ForexSeeker) Jul 27 2010 at 02:22
A digital product is different from physical product.

Click bank product is only digital : You can have 60 days guarantee refund.

Paypal have digital and physical product : You can have 45 days resolve refund.

So the refund rate is very high for all e-digital product and services. You definitely can not get refund if bought a car.

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Elkart

Member Since Aug 01, 2009  941 posts Elkart (Elkart) Jul 27 2010 at 05:30 (edited Jul 27 2010 at 05:31 )
DoubleTrap,

I've given a car back. Friend of mine did as well. Golf VR6 , mirror fell off in the parking lot. He climb in his car drove to the factory and went to go see the factory manager. They gave him a new one.

Toyota had to call all theirs back to fix them at their own costs. No car manufacturer would last in the market if they didn't sort out the problems. Have mass recalls every year.


'A digital product is different from physical product. '

It's that bit that makes it possible for snakes like this crowd to operate. They have the same view as you.


'There are many commercial EAs on the net but as you know most of them don't show the real result of their forward test to their visitors.'

That's the standard that's being used to set the business operation. It doesn't matter that the standard is set by con artists and thieves. Nope, this is how other people do it, so if I do it one better I am better than them and therefore legit.

Sorry mate. These guys are no better than your average 'real world' mugger. Somehow it's acceptable to be mugged on the internet, because it's digital.

I just find it sad that so many people accept what is essentially sub par values of the individuals involved. I wouldn't dream of doing this to other people. Just not right. And there in lies the lessons, I have no sympathy for anybody that gets burned by this crowd. It's obvious they don't give hoot if you get nuked or not. Not their problem.

They write EA's - you pay.

Chang beer is evil.
Elkart

Member Since Aug 01, 2009  941 posts Elkart (Elkart) Jul 27 2010 at 05:42 (edited Jul 27 2010 at 05:47 )
There are right ways to do this.

Look at funyoo's approach. He said, look I don't know if this works, but I'll write them and anybody that pays me $90 bucks a year gets access to everything I do or am going to do. If it works or not.

He doesn't pretend his stuff works. He doesn't know if it works. But he'll write it, and people who pay can get access to whatever he does. And he gets to use his coding skills for something his interested in. Then he runs them and people can decide.

That's honest, it's up front, transparent and frankly a good deal.

Not like this crowd,.... 'buy our working EA' and then 1 month later, 'oh the draw down is to big in the interest of our victims...errr...i mean clients...we don't sell it anymore'. Where was the clients interest ever considered? If you're running stops @ 900 pips you have to know up front your client is going to see is arse...


Chang beer is evil.
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