Thor Forex diskuse

   fughe posted:
   

   thorforex posted:
   @ fughe ...well, when you use a 56k modem, intel penium 1 with 256 mb ram, trade with a dealing desk broker what is on the other side from the globe. Yes, slippage will may kill it. But in this case you was not trading. At least i would not call it so.😄

I agree, this was only a test run with tick data from dukascopy. Since I don't know the inner workings of the EA, I stayed on the safe side and rendered the data for 1m, 5m, 15m, 30m, and 1hr for the 11-30-2010 thru 12-05-2011 period. If it happens to specifically call different timeframes, the data will be available to the tester. Anyway....my results turned up an avg win of $6.74, avg loss of $2.74. Using fixed 0.1 lot, so that gives a pseudo look into the pip win avg. Biggest loss was $5.90, and the biggest win was $59. The win rate is 53.62%.

So.....if you get slipped on a trade for a worse fill (had that happen a lot during high volatility in live trading), that will eat into your profit. If you get slipped on the close, that will eat into your profit. 940 trades total....so that gives about 504 wins and 436 losses. Does your broker slip you 1 pip during high volatility? Then the avg win becomes $4.74, and avg loss becomes $4.74 (-1 pip on entry, and -1 pip on exit.)

Now....to clarify....this system is NOT the same system that MDP is based on. It is a different beast entirely. There is a LOT, LOT, LOT of potential. But, it could have the same weakness that hurts so many that have tried MDP, which is slow broker execution speeds and slippage.

That said....the odds are on my side to have a winning account. MDP shows that my avg speeds are <400ms across the board and my slippage stays under 1 pip. I have been running MDP for about a couple months, so those figures should be fairly accurate. I haven't seen anyone with a faster account than mine yet.

The odds are definitely stacked against it, but after having seen an entire years BT and looked over it thoroughly, I remain optimistic! 😀

With an execution time below <400ms you don't need to be about slippage. Also, in case the market is very fast (where practically everything can happen) Thor will disable trading temporarily.

   thorforex posted:
   

  With an execution time below <400ms you don't need to be about slippage. Also, in case the market is very fast (where practically everything can happen) Thor will disable trading temporarily.

Thank for that info Alexander! That gives me a bit more confidence with this system.

 I am now trying some test runs on the different cores (1,2,and3). It seems that they take different trades. I know in the manual it says that if a person wants to use all the cores they should place the EA on separate charts. Does this mean that the different cores trigger trades at different times? The reason i ask is due to the mt4 trade context limitation of one function at any given time. I would rather have 3 installs of mt4 dedicated to running each core separately if there is any possibility that they might have trades open at the same time.

Alright....welll, I finished the core 2 and 3 tests. Not even remotely as profitable as core 1 even if you combine them. But just for the sake of having the stats, here is what I got.

Core2: ~+461 pips. 294 trades 50% profitable. Avg win $5.16, Avg loss $2.02. Largest Loss #3.30, Largest Win $55.40.

Core3: ~+305 pips. 96 trades 58.33% profitable. Avg win $7.13, Avg loss $2.36. Largest Loss $3.90, Largest Win $56.00.

I could cross reference the trades to see about the entry times, but I am going to wait to see if Alexander will be kind enough to inform us whether or not the cores will ever have trades open at the same time. If so, when i set up the live account, I will put each core in its own mt4 install with separate magic numbers. If they never have trades open simultaneously, then i will put them all in the same mt4 install.

Oh yeah....same setup as previous. Still fixed 0.1 minilot still 11-30-2010 thru 12-05-2011, etc,etc... All i did was change which core is being tested.

   fughe posted:
   Alright....welll, I finished the core 2 and 3 tests. Not even remotely as profitable as core 1 even if you combine them. But just for the sake of having the stats, here is what I got.

Core2: ~+461 pips. 294 trades 50% profitable. Avg win $5.16, Avg loss $2.02. Largest Loss #3.30, Largest Win $55.40.

Core3: ~+305 pips. 96 trades 58.33% profitable. Avg win $7.13, Avg loss $2.36. Largest Loss $3.90, Largest Win $56.00.

I could cross reference the trades to see about the entry times, but I am going to wait to see if Alexander will be kind enough to inform us whether or not the cores will ever have trades open at the same time. If so, when i set up the live account, I will put each core in its own mt4 install with separate magic numbers. If they never have trades open simultaneously, then i will put them all in the same mt4 install.

Oh yeah....same setup as previous. Still fixed 0.1 minilot still 11-30-2010 thru 12-05-2011, etc,etc... All i did was change which core is being tested.

This mans demo account on website showing MDP trade comment dont waste your time
Please put your cursor ove roreder area n second demo account on website and u will realise (this man is a nothing but another constar want to sell cracKed MDP

   kishorejoga posted:
   
This mans demo account on website showing MDP trade comment dont waste your time
Please put your cursor ove roreder area n second demo account on website and u will realise (this man is a nothing but another constar want to sell cracKed MDP

Well, not sure where you are finding this because I have checked them all and don't find any MDP comments.

Anyway, shortly I will verify that it is not MDP. I can easily compare the trades of the two since i own them both. If the trades are suspiciously close, then I will dig deeper and compare the code of both. I doubt that will be necessary though since I am fairly familiar with MDP and it doesn't act like MDP during the trades. We will see in a while though.

I am about halfway through the visual run through to compare with MDP. I decided to turn on the MM. I hope that the live results are close to the test results. Even half as good will be amazing. I started it up with MM on. 2% risk. $1000. 6 months in and it had topped $25,000. I am going to test MDP without using the 'pessimistic true' so that it takes perfect trades. I want to know if the equity curves are comparable too. I don't think i am going to end up getting a match to the MDP trades at this point. There are trades taken with Thor that MDP would never take no matter what settings a person used.

Nice system,

   thorforex posted:
   

   san4x posted:
   Where's the forward test that started in Jan 2011...you do show it in the video, but it's not here.

Did the account blow up? Did something go wrong? Was curve not smooth enough?

Also agree with SmoothHedge: nice backtests, but NOTHING beats a forward test on a LIVE account.

So....where's the LIVE account?

Hi san4x,
results from both accounts are published on publishing websites and also on the homepage. Follow them if you are interested in. Greetings, Alex

Those are DEMO accounts.
And on demo there's NO slippage.

So those results are really worthless.

Please show Thor EA on a REAL MONEY (= live) account. It seems you're new to forex or to its nomenclature. By LIVE account we usually mean a REAL MONEY account, so NOT a demo account.

S.

Well.....i haven't got the new live acc setup yet, so....I am going to switch MDP off on one acc and put Thor on in its place with minimum possible risk. That will at least let me see how it trades without a big risk until I can get the $100 live acc setup. I will not make this account public so don't ask me to. When i get the little one setup, i will make it public so everyone can watch how it trades.....at this point, i am not in a hurry since it is end of year.....so expect it sometime in the first or second week of January.

PLease keep you cursors exactly the place i HAVE SHOWN in the attachment
You will know this system is MDP

   kishorejoga posted:
   PLease keep you cursors exactly the place i HAVE SHOWN in the attachment
You will know this system is MDP

You are very correct. MDP 1.2

   MetaCoder posted:
   

   kishorejoga posted:
   PLease keep you cursors exactly the place i HAVE SHOWN in the attachment
You will know this system is MDP

You are very correct. MDP 1.2

Great job kishorejoga!

So now we can see that Alexander Collins is a liar and that he has stolen MDP code!
This is just beyond everything I have seen, to stole code and sell it as it was Your own invention.
Someone should ban this guy and sentence this guy.

Forex EA market is getting dirtier and we have to report it to William, the author of MDP so
he can fight for himself.

Let's just wait what will Alexander Collins write about this comments, I just can't wait to
know why did he stole MDP code and sell it as it is his own proprierarty ?

   SmoothHedge posted:
   It trades similarly to Million Dollar Pips, which only trades on news spikes. Finding a broker that executes fast enough with such a system is nearly impossible, MDP has already dried up the liquidity during spikes.

he s nothing but MDP CONMAN SEE my previous post i have proved

I checked it out and snapped a screenshot of it myself, just for the record. 😄

I am still not completely convinced it is a repackaged MDP though. I say that for 2 reasons. #1-In the tick tests, it outperforms MDP. #2-It takes trades that MDP doesn't. Some are very similar, but some are initiated when MDP would never attempt to trade.

There are some similarities, but I am not 100% convinced that it is bogus just yet. Heck, I thought MDP wouldn't work and it has made me a lot of money. Even if Thor is a hyped up MDP, maybe it is a better system and will be more profitable.

fughe: the problem is that it looks like Alexander Colins has stolen code of MDP, it does not matter if he changed it a bit and added some shit. He has stolen a code, he is a scambug and a thief and he should be punished for this.
This is just unbelievable what he did to earn money.
I hope he will get what he deserves.

That's a pity, because I thought it will be some new really good strategy, a refreshment, but he was caught red-handed
because of his lazyness and that's for good.
I think William, the author of MDP will take leagal steps in order to punish this guy.

   fughe posted:
   I checked it out and snapped a screenshot of it myself, just for the record. 😄

I am still not completely convinced it is a repackaged MDP though. I say that for 2 reasons. #1-In the tick tests, it outperforms MDP. #2-It takes trades that MDP doesn't. Some are very similar, but some are initiated when MDP would never attempt to trade.

There are some similarities, but I am not 100% convinced that it is bogus just yet. Heck, I thought MDP wouldn't work and it has made me a lot of money. Even if Thor is a hyped up MDP, maybe it is a better system and will be more profitable.

There seem to be multiple (perhaps 3) strategies. One is definitely MDP, the others will be copies of someone else's work also. They probably do a little better than break even in a perfect demo environment, which bolsters the overall gains a little over MDP alone, but the MDP clone will be where most of the gains are coming from.

If this system is the 'copy' of another, someone can tell me where I find the original system?, I would like to see how well it works for purchase.

   rodragon posted:
   If this system is the 'copy' of another, someone can tell me where I find the original system?, I would like to see how well it works for purchase.

it looks like you are newbaby in forex ,it takes years to find a system

No, you're wrong, I have years on Forex, and I'm still looking for something that works fairly well, I had noticed there was something strange in the backtest, many operations open and close in less than 1 minute.