GridMeUpFX 2013 (by odrisb) Einfache Statistik
Gewinn: +29.19%
Drawdown: 18.90%
Pips: 2649.1
Trades: 1011
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Typ: Real
Hebel: 1:100
Handel: Automatisiert

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burningpepito

Mitglied seit Jul 15, 2011  4 Beiträge burningpepito Apr 04 2012 at 14:41
I am also a paying customer of this EA and I have the chance to have stopped it before the crash.
In fact, I think there is no solution to not crash an account with a grid system in the long run. It is statistic. The market WILL go against you 1 day.
Maybe it will occur 1 time per 1 000, per 1 000 000... but the problem is that with a grid system, with a martingale, 1 time, ONLY 1, is sufficient to make you to lose all your money, all you won during the last months, the last years.
The good strategy is to have a good setup for entry, a good timing for exit, and a good money management. This MUST be sufficient. Using a martingale just shows you are not self-confident in your own system.

Pakfx

Mitglied seit Mar 04, 2011  286 Beiträge Pakfx May 17 2012 at 10:24
Ready to die ?

Press F1 for help or Dial 911.
robertgawron

Mitglied seit Aug 07, 2011  4 Beiträge “The secret to riches is the same as the secret to comedy - timing.” (robertgawron) May 23 2012 at 17:57
What a crap EA.
 I can't f...n believe it.

“The secret to riches is the same as the secret to comedy... timing.”
gwrigh

Mitglied seit Jul 30, 2011  72 Beiträge gwrigh May 23 2012 at 18:22 (bearbeitet May 23 2012 at 18:23 )
It worked as designed - closed the basked at 30% DD - it just hit the unlucky grid basket this time. It is inevitable with this strategy (grid/martingale) - you have to be willing, and capable, to float the insane drawdown - like -2500 pips in this case. The only way not to blow up is to trade very small compared to your account size. Eventually it usually comes back up. Now I wonder if this would work if the money management was changed. He made over 700 pips for end of Feb + Mar, and 400 pips in April; He was at around 200 pips for May before this basket went bad. Before this 30% blowout, the worst floating drawdown was less than -200 pips (-185 I think). What if the DD limit was around -200 pips (whatever account % that would be, like 2-3%, instead of 30%)? Then the worst case scenario would only be a basket loss of -200 pips (about 2 weeks of profits) instead of a -2000 pips blowout. But then maybe they happen more often, eh? If the winning % supports it, it would still climb.

burningpepito

Mitglied seit Jul 15, 2011  4 Beiträge burningpepito May 29 2012 at 10:13
QED

dif0r1

Mitglied seit May 03, 2011  11 Beiträge dif0r1 Jun 04 2012 at 20:33
Found another good grid+hedge+martingale EA. https://www.regnow.com/checkout/cart/add/38372-1?affiliate_id=599738 It's currently the TOP EA.

I was using gridmeupfx also but the current market conditions are just not for it.

oshun123

Mitglied seit Jul 01, 2010  4 Beiträge Oshun (oshun123) Jun 21 2012 at 20:36
Grid trading is like smoking...you can do it for a while but one day it will kill you...

dgn2002

Mitglied seit Jun 22, 2012  1 Beiträge David (dgn2002) Jun 22 2012 at 23:13
Hi Brenden,

I am a former professional CDS trader, using GMU 3.7 for a couple of months now.
As I get into forex, EA programming and getting accustomed to your system, I have a few comments and questions that, I believe, might be of interest of the community:

- what are the main indicators you found useful to decide when to get in or out ? I am not asking for your secrets or how they mingle with each other, but just the few raw basics indicators you use.

- The question has been asked previously, but can we set precise threshold (absolute or relative) which supercedes everything else, which triggers the closing of all trades and stop the bot, until manual intervention. I experienced drawdown and I am ok with them with proper risk management, but I would appreciate a firewall, if market goes unexpectedly crazy one day.

- GMU does not trigger position during news, which I like very much, but carries existing positions into news time. So potentially a very strong adverse news can affect us. Moreover what does it open new grid trades when existing trades have been losing because of news effect ?


- Last but not least, there is no 'gain over the target' management. When the target is reached it is automatically triggered.
When I traded credit, we had trailing stop automatically adjusted according to our algorithm which were going up as trades got more into profit. Such sytem will set you up for (rare) big wins at a cost of a few bp in target profit. In credit it had a very positive expectation. In forex, I believe it may too. Have you looked into it all ? I have ideas and experience about it if you want to discuss.


Thanks Brenden for the quality of your EA and to have priced fairly enough to attract interested traders into the forex universe.
Regards,
David


  

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falcon333

Mitglied seit Mar 20, 2010  16 Beiträge falcon333 Jun 14 at 18:23
oshun123 posted:
Grid trading is like smoking...you can do it for a while but one day it will kill you...


Nice simile. I would add to extend this out and say that the # of times the levels of the grid are reached represents the # of cigarettes that are being smoked. The smartest grids don't need to smoke as much; the dumbest ones keep chain smoking all the time. Martingales are another matter....after each level is reached, the martingale doubles the cigarettes smoked at one time, till 8 levels later and he is puffing away at 12, choking in smoke as his account is in flames.

“Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?” Robert Browning
odrisb

Mitglied seit May 03, 2011  45 Beiträge odrisb Jun 15 at 00:33
Yes grid trading is a dangerous activity but if managed correctly then it can be profitable. Choose the correct pair, withdraw profits regularly, limit the number of orders raised and don't make the lot multiplier too aggressive. Backtests have proven profitable over the last 5-6 years (Dukascopy tick data) and time will tell if it survives longer term in a LIVE environment wink

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