PAMM (Managed Accounts) running for +1yr (by ranesh) Quick Stats
Gain: +50.97%
Drawdown: 47.69%
Pips: -3524.0
Trades: 572
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Type: Real
Leverage: -
Trading: Manual

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PAMM (Managed Accounts) running for +1yr Discussion
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arry01

Member Since Jan 25, 2010  47 posts Mark Harris (arry01) Jan 19 2011 at 13:10
Looks like another hold and hope strategy to me, serious equity problems all the time.

Harry

Your big risk! My small gain!
forexma

Member Since Feb 16, 2010  1332 posts SOLAR (forexma) Jan 19 2011 at 13:23
I just hate those money managers who are awaiting quietly for the margin call.
At least he proved he can accept losses which was main reason for my criticism and I want to apologize for that.

"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
ranesh

Member Since Jan 28, 2010  257 posts RWFX ( ~ P A M M ~ ) (ranesh) Jan 28 2011 at 10:06
forexma posted:
    I just hate those money managers who are awaiting quietly for the margin call.
At least he proved he can accept losses which was main reason for my criticism and I want to apologize for that.



Ok Solar... I don't like any unpleasantness either. Your apology is accepted on the assumption that an apology for badly accusing me of being someone else is also forthcoming.

"He who gathers money little by little makes it grow." - Prov13:11
forexma

Member Since Feb 16, 2010  1332 posts SOLAR (forexma) Jan 28 2011 at 10:38 (edited Jan 28 2011 at 10:45 )
ranesh posted:
    forexma posted:
    I just hate those money managers who are awaiting quietly for the margin call.
At least he proved he can accept losses which was main reason for my criticism and I want to apologize for that.



Ok Solar... I don't like any unpleasantness either. Your apology is accepted on the assumption that an apology for badly accusing me of being someone else is also forthcoming.


I apologize for that as well.

But I keep thinking that a money manager should disclose his open trades, history and broker and update more frequently(at least once a day). There are too many hidden things about you which is not the right way to attract investors.

"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
ranesh

Member Since Jan 28, 2010  257 posts RWFX ( ~ P A M M ~ ) (ranesh) Jan 28 2011 at 11:22 (edited Jan 28 2011 at 11:25 )
Thx.

Well... you probably haven't noticed it in my profile and system info which I updated y'day or the day b4 i think. I've mentioned that I've still not started accepting clients who are not personally referred to me. I'm not sure if or when I would start accepting.. won't be anytime very soon though. Personal referrals are working out just fine for me at the moment.

Prior to opening out my PAMM to others I will definitely be disclosing the broker for sure. Since my equity is public I don't see the need for open trades to be made public. I will also not be making my history public.

There was another thread quite a while back. where I think it was Kenny who I was in agreement with over this issue... and none of the others were able to give a valid explanation as to what it is that one can gather from the history from an investor's point of view which is not already available with all of the stats derived from it. And in my case, the kind of individuals I work with are interested in only seeing the necessary KPI and nothing more... because they're high net worth investor savvy individuals who already have other investments.... which is why I find it easier to work with them. You are already aware that the minimum to join my PAMM is 25k... and although I did receive a few PM's from some who wanted to join a month or 2 after I started my PAMM.. I had to decline them. I am still not convinced that those who are able to invest such an amount will be wondering around here on myfxbook. But who knows.

The reason I decided to update it at the weekends is because that is when I need some info from here to prepare reports for my clients which includes some stats not available here.

Well.. anyway I wish you all the best with your future trading endeavors. Catch u later.

"He who gathers money little by little makes it grow." - Prov13:11
forexma

Member Since Feb 16, 2010  1332 posts SOLAR (forexma) Jan 28 2011 at 18:53
For me w/o history is hard to 100% understand the strategy behind the results. I would describe it like that: the history gives me the missing 20% of information about a strategy.

"In trading, winning is frequently a question of luck, but losing is always a matter of skill."
ranesh

Member Since Jan 28, 2010  257 posts RWFX ( ~ P A M M ~ ) (ranesh) Jan 30 2011 at 11:22 (edited Jan 30 2011 at 11:39 )
forexma posted:
    For me w/o history is hard to 100% understand the strategy behind the results. I would describe it like that: the history gives me the missing 20% of information about a strategy.



If one was selling a trading strategy, an EA or even a coaching program - yes I'd have to agree that they ought to have their history open.

In my case, I'm only offering the opportunity for the 'right' individuals to partner with me to mutually profit from my trading 'performance' and for that purpose ALL the stats an investment-savvy individual needs and looks for, to be able to analyze and gauge my performance is available. And by investment-savvy I'm not talking about those who are looking to have a few 1000 dollars managed. If on the other hand a hedge fund was interested in working with me, I am sure they'd want to analyze each and every trade. But I prefer working with the type of individuals I work with at the moment....and they find the stats I've made available to them more than sufficient.

"He who gathers money little by little makes it grow." - Prov13:11
HungarianManaged

Member Since Feb 21, 2011  12 posts HungarianManaged Feb 24 2011 at 12:37
Nice growth!

0AFK0

Member Since Nov 06, 2010  29 posts 0AFK0 Apr 08 2011 at 20:34
Ranesh.... Who are those 'right' individuals you speak of? Surely people gullible enough to be conned into thinking that you can make profits trading currencies. The absolute gain on your account is 22% while your equity is at 77%, that means that you are currently down to .77*1.22=0.9394 ...In other words you've lost 6% since last summer. You're a joke with your suicidal no stoploss trading.

I have better things to do than bash people here, but I was looking at some high performing systems on myfxbook and in the discussion section of one of them you were shitting all over the owner and implying that he would be lucky to have 10% aof the trading skill that you have, so I decided to take a look at your performance and all I can say is Jeeeeeesuuuus... Some balls you have to carry yourself like a pro when all you do is slowly bleed your investors cash. I hope they pay you on a high water mark basis.

HungarianManaged posted:
    Nice growth!


Dude, are you blind? learn to interpret the information given to you, his account has no growth to speak of, it has huge running losses, maybe they will turn around, meybe they will get bigger. Just hold 'em and hope for the best, eh?

ranesh

Member Since Jan 28, 2010  257 posts RWFX ( ~ P A M M ~ ) (ranesh) Apr 08 2011 at 22:07 (edited Apr 08 2011 at 22:30 )
1.
Just to clarify - ur calculation is incorrect. The reason u see a difference in ABS Gain and Cumulative gain is because of profit withdrawals as well as new deposits. Check the relevant section here on fxbook on how the 2 figures are calculated. U should be using the cumulative %gain in your calculation.

So this PAMM account is in overall profit and not at a loss of 6% as you say.

2.

This other person you are talking about must be Ben Smirts of TradingCompany. If anyone was 'shitting' it was him. Those that have been around here long enough are aware of what he did. My intention there was only to expose the blatant lie.

As far as my account here is concerned, everything displayed here is correct.

You will not hear me coming up with made-up stories of myfxbook bugs etc etc causing my equity to show incorrect figures. Nor will updates on this account ever stop simply because there is an equity-drawdown. The only thing that is incorrect here is the equity curve, which is probably because fxbook is still working on it. According to the equity curve here it shows that my equity has hit 100% a few times in March when in fact it hasn't yet, since around the end of November.

Other than that, everything else here is correct.

Most people think that one is a successful trader only if he/she is able to show HUGE %gains. Unfortunately, many people are misguided into believing that a Trader/Manager is not good unless he/she is able to show massive gains. There is no sense in making massive gains only to lose it soon after. Trading forex is not about making massive gains for a short time.... it's about surviving through low periods either due to unexpected circumstances that affect one's trading and/or during difficult market conditions and being profitable in the long term. There must have been a large number of accounts that went bust during the last few months because of the way the markets have been moving. If one is able to comfortably withstand such conditions by trading small (ie: low leverage) and still show profitability that is what matters. Using low leverage always has its advantages although it's a compromise on the %gains.

Even some of the best performing hedge funds only return around 20% to their clients on average annually. About 2000 hedge funds since end-2008 have gone bust. Just check out Barron's top 100 hedge funds survey.

Every account will go through a slow period at some point or another. There's nothing wrong with that. One should have sufficient patience to endure such times to be able to capitalize on the markets when the slow times are over.

Your opening statement leads me to believe that you are of the opinion that currency trading cannot be profitable. It may seem that way... but it's certainly not the case.

Have a nice weekend.

"He who gathers money little by little makes it grow." - Prov13:11
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