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Manual Trading Versus EAs Trading, Which Do You Prefer?
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Moneymanagement

Miembro desde Sep 09, 2010  35 mensajes Easytrader (Moneymanagement) Sep 27 2010 at 18:22
For me, I prefer Manual, cos am in total control not some Damn EAs, i have not use one and will never use one.
   Which do u prefer?

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to_ul

Miembro desde Aug 05, 2009  73 mensajes to_ul Sep 27 2010 at 18:37
every ea works just in a specific market condition, and if that condition changes it will loose. a good coded ea has security features build in to prevent loosing the hole balance if the change occurs. however, a skilled manual trader can beat every ea, because he can adapt to every market condition in no time.
also in order to write a profitable ea, you need to be able to trade manual profitable first.
so there is really no need to use an ea. often people say they have no time to trade manual and thats why they use an ea, however you can be profitable with a decent return with just spending 1 hour every week for your analysis, trading weekly e.g..

so manual trading is the best :). the only reason i can see many are using eas is cause they are lazy. just search google for an ea, attach it to chart and expecting to get nice returns with no work. unfortunatelly thats not how it works, even in life nothing comes without work, discipline, passion and desire.

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Moneymanagement

Miembro desde Sep 09, 2010  35 mensajes Easytrader (Moneymanagement) Sep 27 2010 at 18:41

to_ul posted:
    every ea works just in a specific market condition, and if that condition changes it will loose. a good coded ea has security features build in to prevent loosing the hole balance if the change occurs. however, a skilled manual trader can beat every ea, because he can adapt to every market condition in no time.
also in order to write a profitable ea, you need to be able to trade manual profitable first.
so there is really no need to use an ea. often people say they have no time to trade manual and thats why they use an ea, however you can be profitable with a decent return with just spending 1 hour every week for your analysis, trading weekly e.g..

so manual trading is the best :). the only reason i can see many are using eas is cause they are lazy. just search google for an ea, attach it to chart and expecting to get nice returns with no work. unfortunatelly thats not how it works, even in life nothing comes without work, discipline, passion and desire.


u are absolutly right

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compuforexpamm

Miembro desde Aug 20, 2009  202 mensajes kennyhubbard (compuforexpamm) Sep 27 2010 at 19:03
I prefer using EA's. Sure, a skilled manual trader may beat an EA, but these skilled manual traders are few and far between, present company included.

As to EA traders being lazy, well, I hear that a lot. I don't know why people think that.....perhaps it is people that have failed at automated trading trying to justify to themselves why they couldn't cut it.

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bluemele

Miembro desde May 01, 2010  271 mensajes Gil Barden (bluemele) Sep 27 2010 at 20:23

compuforexpamm posted:
    I prefer using EA's. Sure, a skilled manual trader may beat an EA, but these skilled manual traders are few and far between, present company included.

As to EA traders being lazy, well, I hear that a lot. I don't know why people think that.....perhaps it is people that have failed at automated trading trying to justify to themselves why they couldn't cut it.


I think it is strictly based on one's EGO. To say, My way is better is always a judgement of 'I am better than you' or 'I am smarter than you', strictly speaking just a segregation of value from one person to another. I just want everyone to know that 'My Uncle will beat up your uncle' any day of the week!!! :) That goes for you too Kenny!

Be Open, honest and ethical and all the $$$ you want will come. (hint hint)
compuforexpamm

Miembro desde Aug 20, 2009  202 mensajes kennyhubbard (compuforexpamm) Sep 27 2010 at 21:56
Gil, sorry mate, I do not have an ego problem. I know where I stand in the order of things. But I do take issue with people who say I am lazy. I stand by my view that they speak out of failure or ignorance when they say things like that.

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bluemele

Miembro desde May 01, 2010  271 mensajes Gil Barden (bluemele) Sep 27 2010 at 22:36
Kenny,

I wasn't saying you have an EGO issue. I was saying the argument is invalid because it doesn't matter. :)

You say tomatoe, I say Tomato... etc...

We all like our pizza, woman and politics a little different right. :)

Be Open, honest and ethical and all the $$$ you want will come. (hint hint)
compuforexpamm

Miembro desde Aug 20, 2009  202 mensajes kennyhubbard (compuforexpamm) Sep 28 2010 at 03:23
Ah, ok, apologies. I mis-understood:-)

I hear you......

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ranesh

Miembro desde Jan 28, 2010  257 mensajes RWFX ( ~ P A M M ~ ) (ranesh) Sep 28 2010 at 11:29
Easytrader,

Although I trade manually, I would love to be able to have an EA trade for me whilst I take some time off to do other stuff or to simply enjoy some extra family-time without compromising on trading-time.

I think EA's are a fantastic way to trade provided they work as well as the author of the EA trading manually. I guess an EA can be successful in the long-term, provided the author keeps tweaking it whenever 'needed' to keep it performing at its best with changing market conditions.

But as someone who enjoys trading and spending time analyzing the market, if I could I would certainly try and enjoy the best of both worlds, to be able to enjoy trading whilst not having to spend hrs at my station.

At the end of the day I guess it all boils down to what works best for each one.

"He who gathers money little by little makes it grow." - Prov13:11
to_ul

Miembro desde Aug 05, 2009  73 mensajes to_ul Sep 28 2010 at 12:27 (editado a las Sep 28 2010 at 12:36 )
compuforexpamm posted:
I prefer using EA's. Sure, a skilled manual trader may beat an EA, but these skilled manual traders are few and far between, present company included.

As to EA traders being lazy, well, I hear that a lot. I don't know why people think that.....perhaps it is people that have failed at automated trading trying to justify to themselves why they couldn't cut it.


i didnt say every ea trader is lazy, but the big majority is. writing eas takes a lot of time, but as i said, this time is only spend right if you have a manual way to trade which works. many guys start coding mql4 without being able to trade profitable manual, thats the point, trying to find some magical combination of indicator settings which works.
its a nice experience when a trader finds out he doesnt need any indicator at all.

and thats nothing of i am better than you or shit, i went through all those stages and just point out the mistakes many people make, and i made too. (now dont think i say i am at the end of my journey).
sure an ea can be profitable, i dont argue with that, but only if one traded _profitable_ manual first, coded the ea himself and knows everytime why and what went wrong if something happens. thats the point. i bet 90% of ea users have no clue about the code of the ea they are using and are doomed to fail. (now dont think i say your one of those, just pointing out)

i would suggest anyone to trade manual first, cause its a great experience to realize its not all about the method they are using.
trading in the zone is a nice book to get some deeper look into trading :)

a great way to see if commercial ea writer are honest is e.g.:
if someone tells, i am just giving away x copies so it will still work, thats just bs, and you see those guys have really no clue about why markets move... sure there is the issue of requotes, but its not hard to code a protection into the ea to not take the trade anymore if it gets requoted x times.

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