Forex Envy Power Edition (by ForexEnvy) Statistiques en bref
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BealBull

Membre depuis Apr 18, 2012  102 messages BealBull Apr 25 2012 at 14:56
Once I get to opening Lots = 0.05. I plan to continue increasing the opening Lots determined from this formula.

BaseLotSize = (Account Balance - StopOut %) / 2,000,000. IE $111,111 (really $1,111) with a 10% StopOut would generate a Lot size of 0.05 (if the result is more than 2 digits, only use the first 2 digits) and a HeadRoom of 8,500 based on my TradeFort account settings and a max DD of TWICE that observed so far on the Long only cycle account. If I get a DD exceeding that observed so far I will increase the HeadRoom to maintain twice the HeadRoom as necessary to survive the max DD.

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BealBull

Membre depuis Apr 18, 2012  102 messages BealBull Apr 25 2012 at 15:04

   willgart posted:
   just take care about the conditions associated to your bonus... if they remove it when tge margin is low, you'll get a margin call ;)
its better to keep safe levels until the bonus is in your hand, and then raise the risk.

I'll switch to the new version as quickly as possible. the automated freeze before a news will be great.
but I want to see the options we'll have in our hand. except a level of ris, what else we can manage(?)
I expect to see a better overall balanced management.
so each pair will open trade based on the overall current opened trades... to make sure that not more than 3 pairs goes against us...
so if the system activate the freeze after TP for the pairs which are not in trouble while others cause you some troubles... it will be great. in this scenario, the free headroom will be dedicated to the pair with the biggest lots until the TP is reached...

we'll se... :)




Hi Will,

That is why I starting out at 0.02 and increasing 0.01 every week as the account builds up to bigger than the desired 8,500 HeadRoom required for the next BaseLotSize increase. DDs biggest than the max observed so far on the Long account will cause the min HeadRoom to increase.

While Envy is very smart and automatic, I'm crafting an external Macro Money Manager which also learns, adopts to the Market and helps Envy to safely deliver a higher than expected ROI. Maybe one day Robert and his team will put something like what I'm developing into Envy.

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BealBull

Membre depuis Apr 18, 2012  102 messages BealBull Apr 25 2012 at 15:09 (édité à Apr 25 2012 at 15:14 )
Well done Envy and TE. All my Short cycle baskets closed in profit. I'm impressed.

Here for all to see:
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/BealBull/envy-21-live/291863

Now we start 1 week of BaseLotSize = 0.02 for all 9 Long cycle pairs.

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BealBull

Membre depuis Apr 18, 2012  102 messages BealBull Apr 26 2012 at 02:04 (édité à Apr 26 2012 at 02:08 )
I should add one reason I'm doing this timed BaseLotSize increment trial is to see how Envy responds to increased min open sized orders. Does it deliver a linear increase in $ /Trade profit (as expected) or are there internal algorithms which kick in as open lot sizes increase and alter / reduce the $ /Trade profit / BaseLotSize ratio? Time will tell.

Of course there are the other issues:

1) Concern about reducing the DD HeadRoom as the BaseLotSize increases.

2) The natural desire to increase the ROI on the funds invested.

Hopefully this test will help to determine the optimal Sweet Spot (BaseLotSize versus HeadRoom versus survivable DD versus best ROI) that lets me sleep at night, while knowing Envy's Long cycles are delivering the best ROI on my funds that they can.

When I get my hands on 3.0 and the Power set files, I plan to do a similar trial, so as to determine the optimal Power Sweet Spot. I plan to run Power on another identical TradeFort account so as to compare an optimized HeadRoom and ROI ver 2.1 Long cycle account to the ver 3.0 account doing what ever and however it runs.

While Power does look very good, I learned a long time ago not to put all my eggs in one basket. Diversity is where safety lies.

Interesting times.

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BealBull

Membre depuis Apr 18, 2012  102 messages BealBull Apr 26 2012 at 23:38
Screen shot of my Envy Long cycle trading screen



Pièces jointes:

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flopps

Membre depuis Apr 22, 2011  42 messages flopps Apr 30 2012 at 10:42
Very interesting EA... have only just started to take a look at it and I have not bought it yet.

At first glance it looks like it would be great for broker that offers a good rebate though an IB like Cashback forex.

Anyone have any opinions on using the EA with a large account size? So that one could stay away from the 'cent' accounts. Still 1:500 leverage but a normal account with lot sizes starting at 0.01 of a full lot. What would be the recommended starting capital? 50K? 75K?

Anyway... think I'll purchase it and check it out on demo.

Cheers


willgart

Membre depuis Aug 20, 2011  492 messages willgart Apr 30 2012 at 10:53

   flopps posted:
   Very interesting EA... have only just started to take a look at it and I have not bought it yet.

At first glance it looks like it would be great for broker that offers a good rebate though an IB like Cashback forex.

Anyone have any opinions on using the EA with a large account size? So that one could stay away from the 'cent' accounts. Still 1:500 leverage but a normal account with lot sizes starting at 0.01 of a full lot. What would be the recommended starting capital? 50K? 75K?

Anyway... think I'll purchase it and check it out on demo.

Cheers




contact the ForexEnvy team, they'll answer all your questions.
take a look at the Birt's site (eareview.net) where there is a resume about the EA and the account size required here too.

BealBull

Membre depuis Apr 18, 2012  102 messages BealBull Apr 30 2012 at 11:02
Hi Flopps,

Team Envy should be your first stop on account funding requirements.

Birt's independent EA site is another source with Envy 2.1 account sizes broken down via different Broker mechanics:
http://eareview.net/live-forward-test/forex-envy

You may be interested in reviewing the DonnaForex forum on Envy. It is very informative:
http://www.donnaforex.com/forum/index.php?topic=4935.0

Good Trading,
BB

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BealBull

Membre depuis Apr 18, 2012  102 messages BealBull Apr 30 2012 at 11:03
Damn Will, you got there first. Nice to see we both had the same advise.

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BealBull

Membre depuis Apr 18, 2012  102 messages BealBull Apr 30 2012 at 13:06
MyFxBook is showing another account busting DD of $5,230 ($52.30 in real money) happened 27 April. Not much before, on 15 April, the account had another buster DD of $5,632 ($56.32 in real money).

Ok maybe just my Stats side kicking-in but 2 potential account busting DDs 12 days apart in the first 5 week of Power's life?? My gut feel says we need to fund a Power account to handle DDs of at least 8 times this amount. IE instead of funding Power with $50, it should have been funded with $400.

I should add that according to Birt's web site, the MyFxBook max DDs are conservative and after researching his finer DD data collection it would appear real time DDs can be 2 times that shown on MyFxBook.

I plan to be VERY cautious with Power and would rather over fund the account for 3 - 4 months until there is sufficient time to see how deep the Power DDs are before putting a LOT on money on the Power nose.

YMMY,
BB

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