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Nov 26, 2011 at 18:49
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Membre depuis Jul 24, 2011   posts 91
Feb 07, 2012 at 18:40
Yes, apparently, when you set the risk parameter to 10, for example, the risk will be really 20%. So if they have the risk setting at 15, they really have a risk of 30%. Maybe that's why it didn't trigger the SL yet.

As for me, what a great day to buy FxPapa. And already on real live account. Yet, I did not get any of those problematic trades. Which is both strange and lucky. And good :)

Good luck, Roger!
Membre depuis Jul 24, 2011   posts 91
Feb 07, 2012 at 19:11
As they have $510, their maximum open drawdown should be $153 (30%), I suppose.
Membre depuis Jun 15, 2011   posts 76
Feb 07, 2012 at 19:15
Alec, why 30%, when they can have open a max of 3 trades? wouldnt that be 45%? Or is there some unknown rule that they double the risk that you put in the EA?
Thanks.
Membre depuis Jul 24, 2011   posts 91
Feb 07, 2012 at 20:09
Well Dale, the authors say that when you set the risk to 10, the EA will close the position(s) if the total loss is more than 20% the account balance.

I hope it's alright for me to tell this.
Membre depuis Jun 15, 2011   posts 76
Feb 07, 2012 at 20:24

   

   FxPapa posted:

Hi

The EA may open up to 3 positions at the same time. FxPapa EA uses equity stop loss. Default value is 10 which means the EA would close the trades if the total loss of 3 positions be more than 10% of the account balance.

Regards

Hi Alec, thanks for the update. See this stuff is what im talking about. FX PAPA said above which is clearly untrue, and manual says , well, hopefully the truth.
Still waiting for FX PAPA to clarify above statement.
Membre depuis Oct 15, 2011   posts 62
Feb 08, 2012 at 01:12
Shouldn't the equity drawdown show on the graph.
Membre depuis Nov 06, 2009   posts 44
Feb 08, 2012 at 01:22

   phil posted:
   Shouldn't the equity drawdown show on the graph.

it did earlier, but not at the moment. must be a bug......................
fidelitasllc@
Membre depuis Jun 11, 2010   posts 32
Feb 08, 2012 at 01:27
just check the balance and equity in the info stats window on the left. it shows equity of 80%, that means 20% DD at the moment
Membre depuis Jun 15, 2011   posts 76
Feb 08, 2012 at 04:59
FXPapa - we are still waiting for an explanation of your earlier comments stating that your account wont exceed 15% risk. As it is over 20% as of now still...
Membre depuis Jun 15, 2011   posts 76
Feb 08, 2012 at 06:19
For those that are interested, one of their trades is curerntly over 15% entire account drawdown with a loss of over $80 (account balance is currently $510) open drawdown is now at 25%.
I hope for alec and Rogers case its capped at 30%.
Membre depuis Nov 20, 2010   posts 87
Feb 08, 2012 at 07:23
I'm using a -150 pip fixed SL on my account, so it will close the trade if it continues to go negative regardless of what FxPapa does. Of course, that will still be a huge loss to my account (about 8%), but it certainly won't wipe me out...

Nevertheless, I don't like the fact that the vendor wasn't telling the truth about the equity loss this service uses. I also didn't realize that FxPapa was a signal service until after I bought it, as it was promoted as an EA. And now the vendor seems to have vanished from posting here. So I may end up requesting a refund before it's all said and done. I'm sure that will go over about as smooth as a baby's butt! 😉 ! Luckily, I purchased iit with my credit card, so I can always dispute the charge based upon the misrepresentation of the product. Hopefully that won't be necessary...

Membre depuis Jan 18, 2012   posts 81
Feb 08, 2012 at 09:06
if there will be drawdown, then he will open a new website like cyber forex

Membre depuis Jan 18, 2012   posts 81
Feb 08, 2012 at 09:06
this is the reason, there is no refund.
Membre depuis Nov 20, 2010   posts 87
Feb 08, 2012 at 11:18
The vendor's account has opened two additional GU sell trades, that neither my demo or live account took. What's up with that? I'm actually glad though, as having one trade opened is enough for me at this point. But I thought the whole purpose of this being a 'signal' service was so that all customers receive the same trades as the vendor... 😕

Membre depuis Jan 10, 2011   posts 60
Feb 08, 2012 at 11:24
All,

Just so you know, vendors account already exceeded 30% equity loss..

High today for GU was 1.5928 if you allow 3 pips difference and say vendor high was 1.5925 this still equates to 30.2% of the balance, excluding the negative swap.

Performance has been good, but obviously it is going to be hard to trust the vendor if they are not honest about such simple things.

Also makes you wonder, why after this time they have still not put up the full 2 year back test or 10 year with no gaps. To be honest, if you cannot back test yourself, due to signals sent from the server then I doubt I can trust any back tests provided by the vendor.

Roger, hopefully things work out for you..
BobMurray
forex_trader_13916
Membre depuis Jun 19, 2010   posts 6
Feb 08, 2012 at 11:45
maestro is correct. 30% equity loss was hit. https://www.myfxbook.com/members/BobMurray/fxpapa/239720
Membre depuis Jul 24, 2011   posts 91
Feb 08, 2012 at 12:59
Bob, sorry to know your SL was hit. Meanwhile, Roger and the vendor are still without loss, as am I for I didn't get the bad trades. My FxPapa only started yesterday.

So, what now?

We knew this could happen. The signals should keep coming so some can recover from loss and others may profit. Business as usual.

I see no reason for FxPapa not to show up here. Though it seems strange their account didn't get the 30% loss. They're now at 18% drawdown. Are you sure they were over the 30%, maestro?
Membre depuis Oct 15, 2011   posts 62
Feb 08, 2012 at 13:06
I was stopped out at 8% on my account. My setting is at 4. The sell trades all took and matched what was on fxbook here. What really bothers me is the equity growth does not show the drawdown. Drawdown is one of my main criteria for buying 'EA's'(I guess because it's not an EA explains the lack of settings possible)
Membre depuis Oct 15, 2011   posts 5
Feb 08, 2012 at 13:16
This EA is dangerous. I can not trust the EA which is not available for BACKTEST. Eventually, we will see huge drawdown.
Membre depuis Jul 24, 2011   posts 91
Feb 08, 2012 at 13:19
Yesterday the current drawdown was visible on the charts. Now it's not. Not only on this account. Must be a myfxbook bug.
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