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Why even trade forex? Will it be useless for us traders in the coming years?
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TheLastBear

Członek od Jul 03, 2012  186 postów TheLastBear Aug 13 2012 at 13:16
sihabuddin posted:
TheLastBear posted:
A sophisticated trader will always make money regardless of market conditions. Sure, to the majority it will be always useless but that is not the fault of the markets, rather the fault and failure of the individual.


5% people control 95% others because they have 95% money.


Sure, and your point is...?

Pax puts the X in Forex.
sihabuddin

Członek od Aug 27, 2011  6 postów sihabuddin Aug 13 2012 at 14:19
My point is : i like your statement, and as a trader we have to be a sophisticated trader and learn how 5% grow their money. cool.

is there anyone has an access or materials how they grow their money especially in FX market? or sharable account here?

GBU

No Sacrifice, No Victory (Transformer 2007), My Motto: less Risk, more Victory
liquidityFX

Członek od Nov 15, 2011  61 postów Jos (liquidityFX) Aug 13 2012 at 20:42
the traders that make an actual living (or more) will rarely post here. Why would they?

And if you're not one of those, I suggest you put your funds in a PAMM that has a good average performance to your liking for at least 6 months. They make more money cuz they can trade a higher volume, and you can make more money because they actually know what they're doing :)

I have money in at least 5 different PAMMs at LiteForex, but this should in no way be taken as an advertisement as there are several good brokers with decent PAMM systems.

When you fall you learn, then you get up and you try again until you master it.
sihabuddin

Członek od Aug 27, 2011  6 postów sihabuddin Aug 14 2012 at 06:49
hi very nice view. and nice discussion.

' the traders that make an actual living (or more) will rarely post here. Why would they?'
i agree too with your statement. I know some great trader from my country and they do trading for a living. i found the same philosophy : stay low. but their profit is very very high.

'because they actually know what they're doing :)'

I think most traders can't control their fear and greed as part of knowing themselves...

I have not tried a PAMM system because I don't know the code, the inside of the PAMM.

No Sacrifice, No Victory (Transformer 2007), My Motto: less Risk, more Victory
TheLastBear

Członek od Jul 03, 2012  186 postów TheLastBear Aug 14 2012 at 08:28
Just do an online search for PAMM accounts and you get a short insight. I never post about how I make my money in the market, but rather join a general discussion or start one. As you will be able to tell I do not even share my performance here. My best free advise is that you do the hard work and learn how to trade yourself or find someone you are comfortable with to manage your money for you.

Pax puts the X in Forex.
James_Bond

Członek od Jan 14, 2010  554 postów James_Bond Aug 14 2012 at 12:52
TheLastBear posted:
Just do an online search for PAMM accounts and you get a short insight. I never post about how I make my money in the market, but rather join a general discussion or start one. As you will be able to tell I do not even share my performance here. My best free advise is that you do the hard work and learn how to trade yourself or find someone you are comfortable with to manage your money for you.


I would watch out from those pamm accounts (or at least study them carefully), as most brokers do not filter out the bad traders since they're looking to increase trading volumes.

TheLastBear

Członek od Jul 03, 2012  186 postów TheLastBear Aug 16 2012 at 08:39
James_Bond posted:
TheLastBear posted:
Just do an online search for PAMM accounts and you get a short insight. I never post about how I make my money in the market, but rather join a general discussion or start one. As you will be able to tell I do not even share my performance here. My best free advise is that you do the hard work and learn how to trade yourself or find someone you are comfortable with to manage your money for you.


I would watch out from those pamm accounts (or at least study them carefully), as most brokers do not filter out the bad traders since they're looking to increase trading volumes.


I never used a PAMM, but people do like them. I have always done my own trading, but can't say that I have not played with the idea to trade for other people on a small scale.

Pax puts the X in Forex.
liquidityFX

Członek od Nov 15, 2011  61 postów Jos (liquidityFX) Aug 16 2012 at 08:50
Agreed on the above, it took me two years to go from doing my own PAMM's to also investing in others to diversify. It's pretty scary to throw money at someone you don't know and you don't know how or what they're trading with. You do have to check them very carefully, and indeed check what the broker is showing you about the PAMM. One very important thing I always check is the floating drawdown.

When you fall you learn, then you get up and you try again until you master it.
James_Bond

Członek od Jan 14, 2010  554 postów James_Bond Aug 16 2012 at 12:55
liquidityFX posted:
Agreed on the above, it took me two years to go from doing my own PAMM's to also investing in others to diversify. It's pretty scary to throw money at someone you don't know and you don't know how or what they're trading with. You do have to check them very carefully, and indeed check what the broker is showing you about the PAMM. One very important thing I always check is the floating drawdown.


Another important factor your can't verify is if the trader is a professional trader or just a kid. I'm not saying you can't find young talent, however if the trader is still busy with school homework, it can distract him from trading which can lead to disastrous results.

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