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Oceantrading

Členom od Jan 25, 2011  20 príspevkov OTSFx (Oceantrading) Sep 27 2011 at 11:10 (upravené Sep 27 2011 at 11:17 )
Hi Will,

A smaller cycle trading in conjuction with a higher cycle and additional withdrawal cause a high leverage used in the trades which force us to close them.

We never average down a trade, that is not our trading style.

Is a purely mechanical system ( manual trading ).

Regarding the meausures most important is the withdrawal procedure and no conjucntion of trading cycles if they not hedge by itself neither do compounding weeklly basis, just monthly basis.

Like i told, there is no intention getting excuses for what happen, just getting the solutions for not happen again.

regards,

OTS Fx


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ForexScam

Členom od Mar 28, 2011  1008 príspevkov ForexScam Sep 27 2011 at 11:53
Understood.

You may want to consider working with MAM instead of PAMM as investor's withdraw would not affect your portfolio of positions.

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Oceantrading

Členom od Jan 25, 2011  20 príspevkov OTSFx (Oceantrading) Oct 01 2011 at 22:57
Hi,

Is at our website a post regarding the situation we have faced during september 2011 http://www.otsfx.com/2011/10/important-update/

Is nothing more then what was explained to Myfxbook community but we think that was important explain all thru our website so current and future investors be informed of what happened and measures we take to prevent it.

Regards,

OTS Fx

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ForexScam

Členom od Mar 28, 2011  1008 príspevkov ForexScam Oct 02 2011 at 07:49

   ForexScam posted:
   Understood.

You may want to consider working with MAM instead of PAMM as investor's withdraw would not affect your portfolio of positions.


At my first glance I thought an investor withdrew a significant amount of capital which forced your portfolio of positions into a High leveraged situation. However, this doesn't seam the case here.

 It was a $9500 trading loss, which is clearly displayed on the PROFIT graph. When you look at the Balance graph, an equal amount is displayed. So what really happened here?

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Oceantrading

Členom od Jan 25, 2011  20 príspevkov OTSFx (Oceantrading) Oct 02 2011 at 10:33
Hi Will,

It happens what was explained - withdrawals on accounts and a high market range and a accumulation of trading cycles ( minor and major ).

For instance the major cycle cames from june, almost 5 month in cycle. Accumulated Withdrawals versus accumulated losses produces bad results. 3% of Withdrawal may not be noticed but on the money management can accumulate the problems.

Regards,

OTS Fx

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jezrp

Členom od May 13, 2011  22 príspevkov jezrp Oct 02 2011 at 18:48
hi telmo ,

i am getting worried about investment too , having looked at performance i've only experienced 1 profitable month in 4 months.

1st month i invested = -8.12%
2nd months invested = +16.8%
3rd month invested = -9.83%
4th month invested = -0.18%

not sure what i should be doing , system seems very volatile and not stable at all

kishorejoga

Členom od Sep 12, 2009  312 príspevkov kishorejoga Oct 02 2011 at 19:06
the results are saying an answer
run out with money .
See previous posts ,they say they have managed petra funds
That means indirectly they have agreed they have blown accounts

Oceantrading

Členom od Jan 25, 2011  20 príspevkov OTSFx (Oceantrading) Oct 02 2011 at 19:40
Answering to jezrp, that´s not complete true, if you see your statement, with all withdrawals you have made, sometimes within space of one week, you are earning more then you show in your post. If you are worried about your investment and don´t have trust in OTS Fx, here at the public i say to you withdrawal all your money and invest in other management company, or invezt yourself.

Answering to kishorejoga - Do you know that petra had more then 5 managers/systems working ? Currently at your accounts i seem more then 30% in DD, and you came here, with no experience at all in our systems/management and do comments like you did ? Do you know what are the strategies OTS Fx is using ? Do you know if was OTS Fx that blow accounts at Petra ? Petra blow accounts and OTS was not trading for them more then 3/4 months. So please stick to talk of what you know, don´t tell lies about us.

All OTS Fx clients can´t complaint about any type of hiding the true, not answering even when systems are in Drawdown. We are completely honest and transparent to our clients, and to all.

So please, any options are welcome, but as we always did, just say the true.

regards,

OTS Fx
 

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ForexScam

Členom od Mar 28, 2011  1008 príspevkov ForexScam Oct 03 2011 at 07:31
My misunderstanding again. I didn't calculate any figures from profit lost vs decrease in account balance. I merely looked at the account balance decline and then compared it to the Profit Graph. Which were fairly close. Therefore, I didn't notice the 3% account balance withdraw. Well, thank you for the reply and explaining the situation again.

As a recommendation, you may want to consider MAM in the future to allow your investors the option to add/withdraw funds without interfering with position management. A mere penalty to investors for an early withdrawal doesn't necessary solve the issue here. You may want to rethink your structure. Best luck with your decisions.

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Oceantrading

Členom od Jan 25, 2011  20 príspevkov OTSFx (Oceantrading) Oct 03 2011 at 11:17 (upravené Oct 03 2011 at 11:18 )
Hi Will,

I appreciate your opinions. MAM can be a better solution, but the current broker OTS use, and trust a lot, for trading and for clients safety of funds doesn´t provide that solution.

Regarding the structure, maybe you are right, a mere penalty doesn´t necessary solve the issue - the penalty can lead to revoke LPOA and subsequent suspension of account, although the 'bad' is done on accounts.
To solve the possibility of withdrawals, OTS lowered the exposition to markets too. This will lead to a bit lower performance, but for sure a safety one. Beside this the conjunction of cycles are now reduced to almost 10%, and only if they hedge internally.

With this i think we are in a good way to fullfill our goals.

Regards,

OTS Fx

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