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SaltyWaters
Nov 14 2012 at 23:16
247 posts
Not only in the world of MT4 but in your street too.


SwingTrader posted:
SaltyWaters posted:
By the way, positive floating balance is like negative floating balance. It's only 'it' when the trade is closed.


A positive float can be banked, a negative float will send you broke.

BS abounds in the world of MT4

Chikot
Nov 15 2012 at 00:04
2299 posts
I would not say I am looking for 5000 pips runs. some 500-1000 pips runs would do. I was capable of making some nice returns even on this small run. most of the time I am getting maximum 200 pips for about 2 months which is even not at the point of trade management. i am only getting to move stop to BE stage. Ultimately I will get on trends. I understand you have no clue about trend trading. few trades can make the whole year. I am in learning stage of trade management but it is mostly about how to maximize winners.
Also, I do not have targets and I have no take profit. I have only stop loss. I see it is misunderstanding on what I am doing.
Regarding floating profit. it is not going to kill me... Floating loss can and will.

SaltyWaters posted:
If you are waiting for a 5000 or 10000 pip run, you may be in for a long wait. Besides there's other ways how to get it faster.

Like I said 'in the end of the day what counts is how much you got out of the market' not how much you have in positive floating trades or how close you were from your TP before the market turn against you.
 


Chikot posted:
Saltywater, when market starts moving I will get everything I am looking for. saying that negative floating and positive floating is same says you really do not understand what I am doing.. negative floating = blown accounts. especially the way Rahman is doing. In September when I wa son trend. my average winner was 4+ times my average loser. I will keep it that way.

Cheers.

Chikot
Nov 15 2012 at 00:08
2299 posts
I have only one account with Oanda. Trades cannot be opened in both direction there hence cause I have only one live account I am going to trade same thing but on shorter time frame on demo. Risk per trade will be 0.25%. i will open trades on all pairs same as I am doing live. regarding being brave, you are missing something. i have a lot of positions quite often. 6-12 open trades each 1% risk... I guess it is brave enough. also in my last round I was pyramiding adding to winners, which is brave in my book.



SaltyWaters posted:
Demo doesn't prove anything!

Be brave do it in a Real account with real money.



Chikot posted:
I have been thinking for some time and since I have no second live account I decided to do it on my connected demo. I will trade same strategy but on smaller time frame. some 1-4H. It will be interesting how this will work.

SaltyWaters
Nov 15 2012 at 00:27
247 posts
This is where you fail you think you know better than others and others no nothing about trading. I've been trading longer than you and I don't disrespect your lack of knowledge but you are just full of shit, indeed. You started trend trading just a few weeks ago firkin noobie.

 
Chikot posted:
I would not say I am looking for 5000 pips runs. some 500-1000 pips runs would do. I was capable of making some nice returns even on this small run. most of the time I am getting maximum 200 pips for about 2 months which is even not at the point of trade management. i am only getting to move stop to BE stage. Ultimately I will get on trends. I understand you have no clue about trend trading. few trades can make the whole year. I am in learning stage of trade management but it is mostly about how to maximize winners.
Also, I do not have targets and I have no take profit. I have only stop loss. I see it is misunderstanding on what I am doing.
Regarding floating profit. it is not going to kill me... Floating loss can and will.

SaltyWaters posted:
If you are waiting for a 5000 or 10000 pip run, you may be in for a long wait. Besides there's other ways how to get it faster.

Like I said 'in the end of the day what counts is how much you got out of the market' not how much you have in positive floating trades or how close you were from your TP before the market turn against you.
 


Chikot posted:
Saltywater, when market starts moving I will get everything I am looking for. saying that negative floating and positive floating is same says you really do not understand what I am doing.. negative floating = blown accounts. especially the way Rahman is doing. In September when I wa son trend. my average winner was 4+ times my average loser. I will keep it that way.

Cheers.

SaltyWaters
Nov 15 2012 at 00:29
247 posts
I'm not missing anything. You prove nothing when you demo trade, that's all. It's not the same.


Chikot posted:
I have only one account with Oanda. Trades cannot be opened in both direction there hence cause I have only one live account I am going to trade same thing but on shorter time frame on demo. Risk per trade will be 0.25%. i will open trades on all pairs same as I am doing live. regarding being brave, you are missing something. i have a lot of positions quite often. 6-12 open trades each 1% risk... I guess it is brave enough. also in my last round I was pyramiding adding to winners, which is brave in my book.



SaltyWaters posted:
Demo doesn't prove anything!

Be brave do it in a Real account with real money.



Chikot posted:
I have been thinking for some time and since I have no second live account I decided to do it on my connected demo. I will trade same strategy but on smaller time frame. some 1-4H. It will be interesting how this will work.

Chikot
Nov 15 2012 at 00:29
2299 posts
Get lost.

SaltyWaters posted:
This is where you fail you think you know better than others and others no nothing about trading. I've been trading longer than you and I don't disrespect your lack of knowledge but you are just full of shit, indeed. You started trend trading just a few weeks ago firkin noobie.

 
Chikot posted:
I would not say I am looking for 5000 pips runs. some 500-1000 pips runs would do. I was capable of making some nice returns even on this small run. most of the time I am getting maximum 200 pips for about 2 months which is even not at the point of trade management. i am only getting to move stop to BE stage. Ultimately I will get on trends. I understand you have no clue about trend trading. few trades can make the whole year. I am in learning stage of trade management but it is mostly about how to maximize winners.
Also, I do not have targets and I have no take profit. I have only stop loss. I see it is misunderstanding on what I am doing.
Regarding floating profit. it is not going to kill me... Floating loss can and will.

SaltyWaters posted:
If you are waiting for a 5000 or 10000 pip run, you may be in for a long wait. Besides there's other ways how to get it faster.

Like I said 'in the end of the day what counts is how much you got out of the market' not how much you have in positive floating trades or how close you were from your TP before the market turn against you.
 


Chikot posted:
Saltywater, when market starts moving I will get everything I am looking for. saying that negative floating and positive floating is same says you really do not understand what I am doing.. negative floating = blown accounts. especially the way Rahman is doing. In September when I wa son trend. my average winner was 4+ times my average loser. I will keep it that way.

Cheers.

Chikot
Nov 15 2012 at 00:32
2299 posts
I am trading live. Now get lost.

SaltyWaters posted:
I'm not missing anything. You prove nothing when you demo trade, that's all. It's not the same.


Chikot posted:
I have only one account with Oanda. Trades cannot be opened in both direction there hence cause I have only one live account I am going to trade same thing but on shorter time frame on demo. Risk per trade will be 0.25%. i will open trades on all pairs same as I am doing live. regarding being brave, you are missing something. i have a lot of positions quite often. 6-12 open trades each 1% risk... I guess it is brave enough. also in my last round I was pyramiding adding to winners, which is brave in my book.



SaltyWaters posted:
Demo doesn't prove anything!

Be brave do it in a Real account with real money.



Chikot posted:
I have been thinking for some time and since I have no second live account I decided to do it on my connected demo. I will trade same strategy but on smaller time frame. some 1-4H. It will be interesting how this will work.

SaltyWaters
Nov 15 2012 at 00:36
247 posts
You don't even know what trend trading is, because if you knew it you wouldn't place scalping SL on your trades.

Oh, yeah you are probably trend trading on M1 timeframe, frikin idiot.





Chikot posted:
Get lost.

SaltyWaters posted:
This is where you fail you think you know better than others and others no nothing about trading. I've been trading longer than you and I don't disrespect your lack of knowledge but you are just full of shit, indeed. You started trend trading just a few weeks ago firkin noobie.

 
Chikot posted:
I would not say I am looking for 5000 pips runs. some 500-1000 pips runs would do. I was capable of making some nice returns even on this small run. most of the time I am getting maximum 200 pips for about 2 months which is even not at the point of trade management. i am only getting to move stop to BE stage. Ultimately I will get on trends. I understand you have no clue about trend trading. few trades can make the whole year. I am in learning stage of trade management but it is mostly about how to maximize winners.
Also, I do not have targets and I have no take profit. I have only stop loss. I see it is misunderstanding on what I am doing.
Regarding floating profit. it is not going to kill me... Floating loss can and will.

SaltyWaters posted:
If you are waiting for a 5000 or 10000 pip run, you may be in for a long wait. Besides there's other ways how to get it faster.

Like I said 'in the end of the day what counts is how much you got out of the market' not how much you have in positive floating trades or how close you were from your TP before the market turn against you.
 


Chikot posted:
Saltywater, when market starts moving I will get everything I am looking for. saying that negative floating and positive floating is same says you really do not understand what I am doing.. negative floating = blown accounts. especially the way Rahman is doing. In September when I wa son trend. my average winner was 4+ times my average loser. I will keep it that way.

Cheers.

Chikot
Nov 15 2012 at 07:03
2299 posts
ok, looks like Japan is sinking 😲 some bad news. looks like some pairs are reversing but the kind of super sized candles make me wait. pull backs other things. Also moved stop on e/u. kind of PA that might cause move up. Too much time without breaking a level usually cause reaction or even trend change. especially that last entry was far from safe place. was betting on price being able to break this level which it has not succeeded to do so far.


On demo I am going to just open trades when signal and see how things go. No thinking at all. and will see over the months how things go. unfortunately i am not a bot so miss signals as I am not here all the time.

Chikot
Nov 15 2012 at 07:13
2299 posts
went short aud/usd. the rest has to wait.

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