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Any low risk strategies with good returns?

charlesadethib86
Feb 24 2015 at 12:42
35 posts
Cholipop posted:

 You continue to defend your position of 'demo trading' being the same as live. You even went as far as saying that 'companies can be sued for 'bait in switch'. My friend these brokers are not in the U.s.a and aren't regulated to the extent that your wonderful S.E.C. regulates things back in your homeland. The data feed to demo accounts aren't the same as the data feed to that of live accounts, as it is a demonstrative account. Please click the following link https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=198976&page=2 and have a look at the third post... Not to mention the main difference is the human psychology during demo trading compared to live trading. If you believe it is the same, then you clearly have never traded in a live account.

 To also prove that demo is not the same as life, simply open a demo account with exness, and a real account with exness and notice the difference in the time that it takes the order to fill. If the feed was the same, then there should be no difference in the execution time. Stop making open ended statements and actually go out and prove what you hold to be true. Just as easily as you can post your demo account, you can post a real account to support your claim.


Agreed with Cholipop. While we can still discuss the fact that for systematic trading demo and real result should be closed to each other, manual trading can end up totally differently due to human psycology as Cholipop said. Even two real traders using the same strategy will not end up with the same results

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ForexAssistant (ForexAssistant)
Feb 24 2015 at 16:02
465 posts
charlesdethib86 wrote; 'While we can still discuss the fact that for systematic trading demo and real result should be closed to each other, manual trading can end up totally differently due to human psycology as Cholipop said. Even two real traders using the same strategy will not end up with the same results'.

I will have to concede to your point that once the human element is added to anything, there is confusion. Machines are more capable of consistent results and as you can see from these wave forms, they are very consistent.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ForexAssistant/rise-audcad/578913
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ForexAssistant/passive-income-generator/685841

I could never do that. That is the point of my research, get a machine to do it. I make algorithms for the computer to take advantage of its strengths. I certainly do not want to sit and watch some dumb trades all my life. I got better things to do. I want a consistent returns on my investment like I get from my real estate. If I couldn't do that, I wouldn't be doing this. A live account can't show how a machine works any better than a demo but I can see your point about the human error aspect.

I guess the difference for some maybe that they think that everyone is trying to sell them something, but no one on this forum is really what I consider my market. I teach working class heroes how to retire and let a machine take over the working for a living and bringing in the paycheck. What good are all these advances in technology if we humans are still slaves to the daily grind?

My whole goal is to take trading out of the hands of humans and put it under the control of the machine. Systemic trading is for machines, no human could do what they do. But that is the point, I have eliminated the human element. Now, a trained investor can do what I did, and there are 7 billion potential students wanting what I have already got, that is “A way to make a living without having to work for it”.

But these debate about real vs demo is just BS. I posted a real account on the forum and was accused of falsifying the monthly reports. It's not about whether the account is real or not, it is all just another way tear down someone else. This whole debate on a difference in demo and live is just stupid. In fact, I think I will just drop out of it.

Here is that live account again from 2008, I don't care who sees this one as it is closed.

  https://www.forex-assistant.com/2008-2009.zip

Bob

where research touches lives.
Cholipop
Feb 24 2015 at 21:40
406 posts
ForexAssistant posted:
charlesdethib86 wrote; 'While we can still discuss the fact that for systematic trading demo and real result should be closed to each other, manual trading can end up totally differently due to human psycology as Cholipop said. Even two real traders using the same strategy will not end up with the same results'.

I will have to concede to your point that once the human element is added to anything, there is confusion. Machines are more capable of consistent results and as you can see from these wave forms, they are very consistent.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ForexAssistant/rise-audcad/578913
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ForexAssistant/passive-income-generator/685841

I could never do that. That is the point of my research, get a machine to do it. I make algorithms for the computer to take advantage of its strengths. I certainly do not want to sit and watch some dumb trades all my life. I got better things to do. I want a consistent returns on my investment like I get from my real estate. If I couldn't do that, I wouldn't be doing this. A live account can't show how a machine works any better than a demo but I can see your point about the human error aspect.

I guess the difference for some maybe that they think that everyone is trying to sell them something, but no one on this forum is really what I consider my market. I teach working class heroes how to retire and let a machine take over the working for a living and bringing in the paycheck. What good are all these advances in technology if we humans are still slaves to the daily grind?

My whole goal is to take trading out of the hands of humans and put it under the control of the machine. Systemic trading is for machines, no human could do what they do. But that is the point, I have eliminated the human element. Now, a trained investor can do what I did, and there are 7 billion potential students wanting what I have already got, that is “A way to make a living without having to work for it”.

But these debate about real vs demo is just BS. I posted a real account on the forum and was accused of falsifying the monthly reports. It's not about whether the account is real or not, it is all just another way tear down someone else. This whole debate on a difference in demo and live is just stupid. In fact, I think I will just drop out of it.

Here is that live account again from 2008, I don't care who sees this one as it is closed.

  https://www.forex-assistant.com/2008-2009.zip

Bob


 Here he goes posting results from 2008.... In no way can be prove that those trades are his. They would of been edited by photoshop, etc. Yet what is interesting is you have no intent of showing your real results on myfxbook, but you want to show us 'REAL account trades' FROM THE PAST. lol SEEMS rather fishy to me.
 Yet you seem to believe that you can let your robot run, and never interfere with the robot. If you honestly have that much discipline then open a live account and prove that you can do it. Myfxbook is full of people who are looking for fund managers.

Cholipop
Feb 24 2015 at 21:40
406 posts
charlesadethib86 posted:
Cholipop posted:
charlesadethib86 posted:
Cholipop is right but what people also want to see is a proper money management. After having reveiwed Cholipop trades an average of 60 pips move is enough to wipe out his accounts :). I bet the accounts called withdrawn are the ones that have been burned 😁


  


 1) That is a picture of YOUR account... So with 10:1 leverage I wonder how many pips you are giving to the market on avg. I don't even want to look at your trade history as I WOULD simply be wasting valuable time of my life looking at your horrible, bias trading.

 2) Would 60 pips wipe out my account? It sure would, but it depends on the order which I have open. Please note, that if the accounts which say 'Withdrawn' have not actually been withdrawn would you care to tell me how do I get a client to trust me with an account of 80k usd. :) Showing a trading and account like yours would not get a client for that amount, that's for sure.

 3) I'm a scalper, and my system is based on accuracy, not guessing like many of these DEMO QUEENS and rookie traders who type more information on these websites, with 0 live account to back it up! I not only trade real accounts, but I also PROVE it by posting the results for everyone to see. It is called transparency. You guys can continue to entertain the B.S. of Americans like ForexAssistance who swears to know it all, when the reality is he has not proven anything with a live account.

 I lead by example, not by USING examples (demo trades)

  Sp charlesadethi if you like you can reload your account, and I will match the deposit, and we can see who gets to 500% profit first and withdraws.


Its seems I touched a sensitive point 😁. What are your performance over the last 2.5 years ( not 20 days as the maximum we can see on your account ) 😁


 Touched a sensitive point you have not. What you have done is simply made a statement which should only be made by someone who has a live account from which he/she has withdrawn from. You on the other hand are deeply in red, and it doesn't matter how long the account has been up for. Profit is what everyone wants to obtain. You get no browny points for having an account up for 2 years with NEGATIVE profits. lol What world do you live in?

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