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Which indicator is the best to measure breakout ?

PipGnostic
TheCyclist
Jun 11 2011 at 15:39
724 posts
Actually, it's statically very probable. Hence CETI and Kepler. https://kepler.nasa.gov/

Extraterrestrial life is practically a given. As are life forms based on different biochemistry. That's why billions are being poured into proving it.

Our machines are young. 20 years old. They're already landing air planes, flying around our oceans as autonomous mini submarines, landing on and exploring mars. They play chess and beat us at it.

Took is millions of years to do what our machines are doing in 20.

By the time you die Chikot you will not be able to tell the difference between a machine and a human, if we don't wipe out now, cause we're on the edge of a catastrophic collapse of our civilization.

PipGnostic
TheCyclist
Jun 11 2011 at 15:44
724 posts
https://kepler.nasa.gov/Mission/discoveries/

Just look at the volume of planets being identified. And this is on a small sample of space. In the universe there are literally hundreds of billions of planets. A good few billion will be earth like. And earth is a young planet, 75% of the systems out there are a at least 4 billion years older than earth.

PipGnostic
TheCyclist
Jun 11 2011 at 15:48
724 posts
https://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/scientists-estimate-tens-billions-earth-planets-our-galaxy

It's very likely that there are few million civilisations like ours that developed machines millions of years ago and wiped out, leaving their machines behind. All about the numbers....

Chikot
Jun 11 2011 at 20:23
2299 posts
Whatever those geeks do in Ceti does not mean life is there. been watching NG recently and they speak as if it is a forgone conclusion and just a matter of few years. But the truth is we have not been able to find a measly bacteria outside our planet.
Humans tend to waste money on useless things. Trillions have been poured into current arrangements like highways, personal transportation and housing with goal to ruin our energy resources in record short time.
Current situation is what happens when science goes mad and has no direction and leadership.
FYI, no one knows how life emerged and science has no answer. Darwin theory is false and public simply is not following what has been happening in science in the past 60 years as despite all developments there is no proof that life emerged from non life randomly and that species evolve one from another by tiny steps.
Machines imho will never create Matrix like situation but nevertheless the way they are used in our scosiety a lot of lives and the whole civilization could be ruined.


TheCyclist posted:
    Actually, it's statically very probable. Hence CETI and Kepler. https://kepler.nasa.gov/

Extraterrestrial life is practically a given. As are life forms based on different biochemistry. That's why billions are being poured into proving it.

Our machines are young. 20 years old. They're already landing air planes, flying around our oceans as autonomous mini submarines, landing on and exploring mars. They play chess and beat us at it.

Took is millions of years to do what our machines are doing in 20.

By the time you die Chikot you will not be able to tell the difference between a machine and a human, if we don't wipe out now, cause we're on the edge of a catastrophic collapse of our civilization.

Chikot
Jun 11 2011 at 20:26
2299 posts
again, it doe snot matter how many planets is there. So far scientists have been able to identify very few Earth like planets if any. Almost all planets found are gas giants akin Jupiter.
Also, until life is found on any there is no statistical base to make assumption like CETI does.
we might be the only one planet where the life emerged, who knows. Until there is prove to the contrary there is no foundation to think otherwise.

Chikot
Jun 11 2011 at 20:43
2299 posts
Complexity of life is stagering. Much more complex than that of our machines and our machines are not evolving by themselves.
It is we who are designing them and improving them. There is no evolution of machines. The moment we stop servicing them, they will turn into garbage.

PipGnostic
TheCyclist
Jun 12 2011 at 04:22
724 posts
I'm going to have to disagree with you. But for now having a machine do the trading for me while I'm off on my travels works just fine for me.

PipGnostic
TheCyclist
Jun 12 2011 at 08:02
724 posts
What would be upsetting is if it starts buying my girl friends gifts with the profit, then I have a problem and it's maybe a little bit to clever.

Chikot
Jun 12 2011 at 10:50
2299 posts
LOL, I hope it will not be coming to this as it means your bot will be also controlling your bank account! 😲
As we say in Russian it is akin to let goat into the garden or let cat guard the cream.

Chikot
Jun 12 2011 at 10:57
2299 posts
BTW, Grim, I know you like life in Asia. Where would you prefer to live in there?

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