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Admoni

Member Since Aug 09, 2017  95 posts Admoni Nov 03 2017 at 14:00
as a newcomer , MT4 is a trading platform which is most popular by the traders who are particularly newcomers. In my trading career, as a newcomer from my first day of trading I have been using MT4 broker that is really comfortable to me when trading practically.

mlawson71

Member Since Dec 11, 2015  1322 posts mlawson71 Nov 03 2017 at 15:37
MiguelMM posted:
Why would trading not work if everyone used the same strategy?


Because everyone would be executing the same positions at the same time. Forex only works if there are people who profit and people who lose.

PipsFisherman

Member Since Feb 23, 2016  4 posts PipsFisherman Nov 05 2017 at 07:27
Forex like other trading system are buying and selling process.
When you buy something on the market, some people are selling to you at the same time.
If everybody was doing exactly the same thing, the market would not be able to work properly !

Mohammadi

Member Since Aug 11, 2017  118 posts Mohammadi Nov 08 2017 at 15:51
In Fx trading as a newbie I am looking for a great source for gathering proper market principle which is very supportive to lead a comfortable trading life with certainly , many of us suggest me to trade demo account , but honestly speaking , I always feel boring when trading in demo account . but I have acquired some basic information from here about trading .

Adribaasmet

Member Since Aug 27, 2017  48 posts Adribaasmet Dec 29 2017 at 13:29
YuTsai posted:
If everyone use same strategy, there will no trading business. Inovation is the key for success in any industries.


I see, many traders are using Price Action trading strategy but they have the different trading history based on their recent trading performances! So, the same strategy doesn’t mean same result.

mlawson71

Member Since Dec 11, 2015  1322 posts mlawson71 Dec 29 2017 at 16:24
I don't think there's any danger of everyone suddenly starting to use the same strategy. There are millions of traders out there and many, many strategies. People often can't agree what to have for lunch let alone about the strategy that should be used to make money.

JacoAF

Member Since Jun 14, 2013  109 posts Jaco Ferreira (JacoAF) Dec 30 2017 at 07:28 (edited Dec 30 2017 at 07:34 )
Adribaasmet posted:
YuTsai posted:
If everyone use same strategy, there will no trading business. Inovation is the key for success in any industries.


I see, many traders are using Price Action trading strategy but they have the different trading history based on their recent trading performances! So, the same strategy doesn’t mean same result.



'Price Action Trading' is a very broad concept. It can mean anything from trading Japanese Candle Patterns, Historical Support & Resistance, Fibonacci Retracement/Extentions, Elliot Wave and countless chart patterns like Double Tops, Head & Shoulders, etc. A Trader can use any one of them or a combination of a few of them, and it is still technically called Price Action Trading.

Price Action literally means analyzing the movement or behavior of the price of an instruments over a particular time frame. I personally think all new traders should learn the basics of Price Action trading and then combine it it with fundamental analysis and perhaps 1 or 2 good indicators like the RSI or 2 Moving averages to formulate his/her on strategy. And I'm only talking manual trading here.

Here's an example of one of the ways I use RSI indicator to look for Buy/Sell setups. Refer the attached image of a GBPUSD Daily chart (showing price movement from May 2017 to Dec 2017). I added a number of arrows and text to illustrate. The following can be applied on any time-frame, but it works better of higher time-frames like the 1-Hour and up.

1) Look for divergence on the RSI. At number one there was Bullish Divergence below the 30 level (must occur when RSI was below 30 or above 70) This indicates that the downward momentum is weak and a shift to upward momentum is expected. Basically the possibility of a trend reversal from the downtrend to an uptrend is very strong. Important! - don't yet act on this. Wait for confirmation of the reversal.

2) Look for a break of the previous High/Low. At number two the market reversed and broke the previous Swing-High. This in itself is an indicator that a possible reversal has begun. Again DO NOT act on this yet.

3) Now this is where the Price Action magic happens. At number 3 the market pulled back and re-tested the break of the previous High. As price action traders this is the point we sit up and take notice. We look to see how the market reacts around this level. If the Resistance/Support level of number 2 holds then we want to Buy, else if it breaks, and then breaks the RSI Divergence level, the trade setup is invalid.

4) At number 4, at the close of first or second candle after the retest, we place a buy order.

5) Number 5 illustrates the placement of the stop loss level, below the RSI Divergence level

6) Number 6 illustrates how we place our take-profit target level. I typically look for previous support/resistance levels, but they have to give me at least a 1:2 or better risk reward ratio.


The point of all this is to illustrate that Price Action Trading cannot be defined in a single strategy. Sometimes I use RSI Divergence, sometimes I see a Head & Shoulders or Double Top/Bottom pattern. Sometimes I simply look at how markets react to economic data around key sup/res levels. That's what makes it exciting and interesting for me - figuring out what the emotional response of the crowd is to key levels, and then detecting where the smart money is going. I'm not always right of course, and losses is something you HAVE to accept as part of your trading career, but man it feels good when you execute a good trade setup perfectly!

The key is to use your God-given intelligence and actually LOOK what the market (price) is doing around key levels. Always remember that Price Action is a direct reflection of the collective Greed/Fear of all the people that participate in a market. So what you actually want to do is figure out what the smart money (market movers) is doing and then follow them.

Anyway guys, good luck trading out there, and may 2018 be a very profitable year!

Cheers
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Adribaasmet

Member Since Aug 27, 2017  48 posts Adribaasmet Dec 31 2017 at 11:21
JacoAF posted:
Adribaasmet posted:
YuTsai posted:
If everyone use same strategy, there will no trading business. Inovation is the key for success in any industries.


I see, many traders are using Price Action trading strategy but they have the different trading history based on their recent trading performances! So, the same strategy doesn’t mean same result.



'Price Action Trading' is a very broad concept. It can mean anything from trading Japanese Candle Patterns, Historical Support & Resistance, Fibonacci Retracement/Extentions, Elliot Wave and countless chart patterns like Double Tops, Head & Shoulders, etc. A Trader can use any one of them or a combination of a few of them, and it is still technically called Price Action Trading.

Price Action literally means analyzing the movement or behavior of the price of an instruments over a particular time frame. I personally think all new traders should learn the basics of Price Action trading and then combine it it with fundamental analysis and perhaps 1 or 2 good indicators like the RSI or 2 Moving averages to formulate his/her on strategy. And I'm only talking manual trading here.

Here's an example of one of the ways I use RSI indicator to look for Buy/Sell setups. Refer the attached image of a GBPUSD Daily chart (showing price movement from May 2017 to Dec 2017). I added a number of arrows and text to illustrate. The following can be applied on any time-frame, but it works better of higher time-frames like the 1-Hour and up.

1) Look for divergence on the RSI. At number one there was Bullish Divergence below the 30 level (must occur when RSI was below 30 or above 70) This indicates that the downward momentum is weak and a shift to upward momentum is expected. Basically the possibility of a trend reversal from the downtrend to an uptrend is very strong. Important! - don't yet act on this. Wait for confirmation of the reversal.

2) Look for a break of the previous High/Low. At number two the market reversed and broke the previous Swing-High. This in itself is an indicator that a possible reversal has begun. Again DO NOT act on this yet.

3) Now this is where the Price Action magic happens. At number 3 the market pulled back and re-tested the break of the previous High. As price action traders this is the point we sit up and take notice. We look to see how the market reacts around this level. If the Resistance/Support level of number 2 holds then we want to Buy, else if it breaks, and then breaks the RSI Divergence level, the trade setup is invalid.

4) At number 4, at the close of first or second candle after the retest, we place a buy order.

5) Number 5 illustrates the placement of the stop loss level, below the RSI Divergence level

6) Number 6 illustrates how we place our take-profit target level. I typically look for previous support/resistance levels, but they have to give me at least a 1:2 or better risk reward ratio.


The point of all this is to illustrate that Price Action Trading cannot be defined in a single strategy. Sometimes I use RSI Divergence, sometimes I see a Head & Shoulders or Double Top/Bottom pattern. Sometimes I simply look at how markets react to economic data around key sup/res levels. That's what makes it exciting and interesting for me - figuring out what the emotional response of the crowd is to key levels, and then detecting where the smart money is going. I'm not always right of course, and losses is something you HAVE to accept as part of your trading career, but man it feels good when you execute a good trade setup perfectly!

The key is to use your God-given intelligence and actually LOOK what the market (price) is doing around key levels. Always remember that Price Action is a direct reflection of the collective Greed/Fear of all the people that participate in a market. So what you actually want to do is figure out what the smart money (market movers) is doing and then follow them.

Anyway guys, good luck trading out there, and may 2018 be a very profitable year!

Cheers
Thanks a lot for your description! It’s a great community to learn Forex! I see, many of you dedicated members here and obviously I wanna learn more from all of your posts and threads!

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