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Piotr Pietrzak (PiotrPietrzak)
May 11 2018 at 08:46
13 posts
algo-2-part-2: +248.0% DD 23.88% Started: Feb 15, 2017
algo-1-part-2: +225.4% DD 10.32% Started: Feb 15, 2017
algo-4: +143.4% DD 24.93% Started: Jul 11, 2017

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PiotrPietrzak/algo-2-part-2/2305463
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PiotrPietrzak/algo-1-part-2/2305469
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PiotrPietrzak/algo-4/2347280


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vontogr (togr)
May 11 2018 at 08:48
4862 posts
sjkhaushu posted:
I dont know why all the talk about lot sizes. Just look at number of pips for each trade and compare it to actual gain/loss %. If a trade won 10 pips and made 1%, the leverage used is about 1:10. If its 10 pips and 2%, the leverage is 1:20. Simple...

Leverage has nothing to do with that.
The example above is about trade size not leverage

vontogr (togr)
May 11 2018 at 08:48
4862 posts
arpan366 posted:
togr posted:
arpan366 posted:
BluePanther posted:
arpan366 posted:
Just go through the trade history and times. If a new trade is not opened in the same symbol when another is at a loss, it is not a martingale. Otherwise it is. I dont understand how lotsize helps.


On a martingale account the Lot size will prove beyond doubt that martingale is used.

Hence why Lot size helps. Now you understand.


How exactly will it prove anything? Please be specific with a real example where you can't say whether a system is a martingale or not without the lotsize.


Even though you hide lot size it is obvious you are using martingale. Simple math is enough.
tag
04.17.2018 16:17 04.17.2018 17:01 EURUSD Sell - 5.00 1.23520 1.23501 1.9 43m 0.04%
tag
04.13.2018 16:23 04.13.2018 21:37 EURUSD Sell -31.60 - 1.23217 1.23334 -11.7 5h 13m -0.08%
From those numbers I am able to tell you are using martingale with multiplier of 3!
Prove me I am wrong by showing history...lots


First trade was opened on 13Apr18 at 16:23 and closed on 13Apr18 at 21:37. It lasted for about 5 hours and was closed at a loss. Second trade was opened on 17Apr18 at 16:17 (when the previous trade was obviously closed) and was closed on the same day at 17:01. It lasted for about an hour. The two trades were opened and closed 4 days apart from each other.

How is this a martingale? Why do you need lotsize to understand whether it is or not? Simple entry/exit times and prices should be enough. And seriously this is 'math'? You even managed to 'calculate' some 'multiplier':)


You had loosing trade. You open 3x times larger trade to recover this loss. This is my dear friend called martingale. Do not mess here with trade time, etc... that does not matter.

SCR Traders (Pikasso)
May 11 2018 at 08:51
168 posts
The gain in May has already hit my April's result. 3.34% in May vs 3.15% in April. Good dynamic.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Pikasso/scr/1997123
The system is demonstrated publicly and can be followed.

Trading system developers and strategy providers.
arpan366
May 11 2018 at 10:00
31 posts
togr posted:
arpan366 posted:
togr posted:
arpan366 posted:
BluePanther posted:
arpan366 posted:
Just go through the trade history and times. If a new trade is not opened in the same symbol when another is at a loss, it is not a martingale. Otherwise it is. I dont understand how lotsize helps.


On a martingale account the Lot size will prove beyond doubt that martingale is used.

Hence why Lot size helps. Now you understand.


How exactly will it prove anything? Please be specific with a real example where you can't say whether a system is a martingale or not without the lotsize.


Even though you hide lot size it is obvious you are using martingale. Simple math is enough.
tag
04.17.2018 16:17 04.17.2018 17:01 EURUSD Sell - 5.00 1.23520 1.23501 1.9 43m 0.04%
tag
04.13.2018 16:23 04.13.2018 21:37 EURUSD Sell -31.60 - 1.23217 1.23334 -11.7 5h 13m -0.08%
From those numbers I am able to tell you are using martingale with multiplier of 3!
Prove me I am wrong by showing history...lots


First trade was opened on 13Apr18 at 16:23 and closed on 13Apr18 at 21:37. It lasted for about 5 hours and was closed at a loss. Second trade was opened on 17Apr18 at 16:17 (when the previous trade was obviously closed) and was closed on the same day at 17:01. It lasted for about an hour. The two trades were opened and closed 4 days apart from each other.

How is this a martingale? Why do you need lotsize to understand whether it is or not? Simple entry/exit times and prices should be enough. And seriously this is 'math'? You even managed to 'calculate' some 'multiplier':)


You had loosing trade. You open 3x times larger trade to recover this loss. This is my dear friend called martingale. Do not mess here with trade time, etc... that does not matter.


This is a waste of time. Read this:

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/06/martingale.asp

I change trade size based on the quality of the signal and not to gain back lost money. Out of a 10 factors, if 3 or 4 line up, i bet very small. If 8 or 9 line up, i bet could potentially 10 times the amount. However, i only take a new trade once earlier trades are closed out. I think this is standard for most strategies. If this is so difficult to understand, just stop commenting....

Citrullone
May 11 2018 at 11:36
55 posts
PiotrPietrzak posted:
algo-2-part-2: +248.0% DD 23.88% Started: Feb 15, 2017
algo-1-part-2: +225.4% DD 10.32% Started: Feb 15, 2017
algo-4: +143.4% DD 24.93% Started: Jul 11, 2017

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PiotrPietrzak/algo-2-part-2/2305463
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PiotrPietrzak/algo-1-part-2/2305469
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PiotrPietrzak/algo-4/2347280



Great works. Do you use deep Learning algos? Daily Time frame?
Thanks

vontogr (togr)
May 13 2018 at 06:45
4862 posts
arpan366 posted:
togr posted:
arpan366 posted:
togr posted:
arpan366 posted:
BluePanther posted:
arpan366 posted:
Just go through the trade history and times. If a new trade is not opened in the same symbol when another is at a loss, it is not a martingale. Otherwise it is. I dont understand how lotsize helps.


On a martingale account the Lot size will prove beyond doubt that martingale is used.

Hence why Lot size helps. Now you understand.


How exactly will it prove anything? Please be specific with a real example where you can't say whether a system is a martingale or not without the lotsize.


Even though you hide lot size it is obvious you are using martingale. Simple math is enough.
tag
04.17.2018 16:17 04.17.2018 17:01 EURUSD Sell - 5.00 1.23520 1.23501 1.9 43m 0.04%
tag
04.13.2018 16:23 04.13.2018 21:37 EURUSD Sell -31.60 - 1.23217 1.23334 -11.7 5h 13m -0.08%
From those numbers I am able to tell you are using martingale with multiplier of 3!
Prove me I am wrong by showing history...lots


First trade was opened on 13Apr18 at 16:23 and closed on 13Apr18 at 21:37. It lasted for about 5 hours and was closed at a loss. Second trade was opened on 17Apr18 at 16:17 (when the previous trade was obviously closed) and was closed on the same day at 17:01. It lasted for about an hour. The two trades were opened and closed 4 days apart from each other.

How is this a martingale? Why do you need lotsize to understand whether it is or not? Simple entry/exit times and prices should be enough. And seriously this is 'math'? You even managed to 'calculate' some 'multiplier':)


You had loosing trade. You open 3x times larger trade to recover this loss. This is my dear friend called martingale. Do not mess here with trade time, etc... that does not matter.


This is a waste of time. Read this:

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/06/martingale.asp

I change trade size based on the quality of the signal and not to gain back lost money. Out of a 10 factors, if 3 or 4 line up, i bet very small. If 8 or 9 line up, i bet could potentially 10 times the amount. However, i only take a new trade once earlier trades are closed out. I think this is standard for most strategies. If this is so difficult to understand, just stop commenting....


Yes and your strong signal for big trade always come after loosing trade. Interesting:)

Matt (BluePanther)
May 13 2018 at 06:58
1354 posts
arpan366 posted:
This is a waste of time. Read this:

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/06/martingale.asp

I change trade size based on the quality of the signal and not to gain back lost money. Out of a 10 factors, if 3 or 4 line up, i bet very small. If 8 or 9 line up, i bet could potentially 10 times the amount. However, i only take a new trade once earlier trades are closed out. I think this is standard for most strategies. If this is so difficult to understand, just stop commenting....


So in other words, you are referring to something like this??

https://www.profitf.com/articles/forex-education/safe-martingale-manual-trading-part-2/

Matt (BluePanther)
May 13 2018 at 07:05
1354 posts
For argument's sake, please consider:
Martingale = EXPONENTIAL (CONSIDERABLE) INCREASE IN LOT SIZE (whether recovery trade, 8/10 signals, 50/50 chance, etc.)
Non-martingale = NO SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN LOT SIZE (commensurate increase in proportion to account permitted aka. money management [MM])

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