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Funnel Trader IC (By ryang123)

Gain : +463.61%
Drawdown 86.76%
Pips: 9100.7
Trades 8039
Won:
Lost:
Type: Real
Leverage: 1:200
Trading: Automated

Funnel Trader IC Discussion

ryang123 (ryang123)
Jun 29 2018 at 04:02
85 posts
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
i'm watching your open positions and they don't match at all mine ! how is it possible?
If I start making trades at 1pm and you start at 2pm, both of us will have different trades. This system is no different than that example. Even if we both started taking trades at the exact same time with the exact same broker, we would still eventually have different results because of liquidity.

i mean you still have trades that were closed in a nice profit already
I've had 2 years of profits with this system. Not sure what you mean..

Choose a good reputation over great riches (PROVERBS 22:1)
davidoff9 (davidoff9)
Jun 29 2018 at 06:52
13 posts
he already closed 2 basket in profit and yours is still open from yesterday?

If you're going to panic, panic early
davidoff9 (davidoff9)
Jun 29 2018 at 07:02
13 posts
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
i'm watching your open positions and they don't match at all mine ! how is it possible?
If I start making trades at 1pm and you start at 2pm, both of us will have different trades. This system is no different than that example. Even if we both started taking trades at the exact same time with the exact same broker, we would still eventually have different results because of liquidity.

i mean you still have trades that were closed in a nice profit already
I've had 2 years of profits with this system. Not sure what you mean..

I am looking at your open trades and mine and they don’t match at all, I just want to undesrtand how funnel trader works, why is it opening and closing trades on my account and not on yours, we have the same signal after all?

If you're going to panic, panic early
roggerladislau (roggerladislau)
Jul 01 2018 at 06:14
11 posts
Hello dude!

I just had a thinking very great!

Think with me!

If this Ea works with cycle profits, it can works even better the following way:

Account 1

Buy eurusd
Sell audusd
Sell eurjpy
Sell usdjpy
Sell nzdusd

-------------------------------

Account 2

Sell eurusd
Buy audusd
Buy eurjpy
Buy usdjpy
Buy nzdusd


We could tell for the owner to make a option to have in the robot one option to make only sell eurusd e buy the other

and only buy eurusd and sell the other, thus one account would make profits and the other could have temporary drawndown, and vice versa.


What do you think?

thanks

ryang123 (ryang123)
Jul 02 2018 at 03:59
85 posts
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
i'm watching your open positions and they don't match at all mine ! how is it possible?
If I start making trades at 1pm and you start at 2pm, both of us will have different trades. This system is no different than that example. Even if we both started taking trades at the exact same time with the exact same broker, we would still eventually have different results because of liquidity.

i mean you still have trades that were closed in a nice profit already
I've had 2 years of profits with this system. Not sure what you mean..

I am looking at your open trades and mine and they don’t match at all, I just want to undesrtand how funnel trader works, why is it opening and closing trades on my account and not on yours, we have the same signal after all?
I understand now. You are thinking this is a trade signal. Its not a trade signal at all. Its an automated system that trades the currency market based on your brokers feed, the time you install the system, leverage, position sizing, account balance, etc. All this will play some part in how your trades are taken from the system. If it was a signal, then yes, you and I would have similar trades. Still not exact but closer than running our own separate systems. I'm sure you and I started running the system at different times too. That is probably the biggest factor. I suggest taking a look at babypips.com. I love this course. Free online course! I took it twice when I first got started trading. I helped me a ton!

Choose a good reputation over great riches (PROVERBS 22:1)
ryang123 (ryang123)
Jul 02 2018 at 04:04
85 posts
roggerladislau posted:
Hello dude!

I just had a thinking very great!

Think with me!

If this Ea works with cycle profits, it can works even better the following way:

Account 1

Buy eurusd
Sell audusd
Sell eurjpy
Sell usdjpy
Sell nzdusd

-------------------------------

Account 2

Sell eurusd
Buy audusd
Buy eurjpy
Buy usdjpy
Buy nzdusd


We could tell for the owner to make a option to have in the robot one option to make only sell eurusd e buy the other

and only buy eurusd and sell the other, thus one account would make profits and the other could have temporary drawndown, and vice versa.


What do you think?

thanks

I thought the same thing a while back and I think I even told Lance about it. I even replicated it like this (I make my own systems too) but the problem is the drawdown is outweighed by the larger baskets. Yes, the other side would be taking profits but small in comparison. You would still need a substantial account size to run it. The one basket would also have a large drawdown.

Choose a good reputation over great riches (PROVERBS 22:1)
davidoff9 (davidoff9)
Jul 02 2018 at 10:19
13 posts
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
i'm watching your open positions and they don't match at all mine ! how is it possible?
If I start making trades at 1pm and you start at 2pm, both of us will have different trades. This system is no different than that example. Even if we both started taking trades at the exact same time with the exact same broker, we would still eventually have different results because of liquidity.

i mean you still have trades that were closed in a nice profit already
I've had 2 years of profits with this system. Not sure what you mean..

I am looking at your open trades and mine and they don’t match at all, I just want to undesrtand how funnel trader works, why is it opening and closing trades on my account and not on yours, we have the same signal after all?
I understand now. You are thinking this is a trade signal. Its not a trade signal at all. Its an automated system that trades the currency market based on your brokers feed, the time you install the system, leverage, position sizing, account balance, etc. All this will play some part in how your trades are taken from the system. If it was a signal, then yes, you and I would have similar trades. Still not exact but closer than running our own separate systems. I'm sure you and I started running the system at different times too. That is probably the biggest factor. I suggest taking a look at babypips.com. I love this course. Free online course! I took it twice when I first got started trading. I helped me a ton!

yes thanks i started trading 5 years ago with babypips, and i understand it is a robot, however i'm puzzled at the fact that it can make money opening different positions on each account, and that the account of lance has the same open trades since 15th june,

If you're going to panic, panic early
ryang123 (ryang123)
Jul 03 2018 at 04:42
85 posts
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
i'm watching your open positions and they don't match at all mine ! how is it possible?
If I start making trades at 1pm and you start at 2pm, both of us will have different trades. This system is no different than that example. Even if we both started taking trades at the exact same time with the exact same broker, we would still eventually have different results because of liquidity.

i mean you still have trades that were closed in a nice profit already
I've had 2 years of profits with this system. Not sure what you mean..

I am looking at your open trades and mine and they don’t match at all, I just want to undesrtand how funnel trader works, why is it opening and closing trades on my account and not on yours, we have the same signal after all?
I understand now. You are thinking this is a trade signal. Its not a trade signal at all. Its an automated system that trades the currency market based on your brokers feed, the time you install the system, leverage, position sizing, account balance, etc. All this will play some part in how your trades are taken from the system. If it was a signal, then yes, you and I would have similar trades. Still not exact but closer than running our own separate systems. I'm sure you and I started running the system at different times too. That is probably the biggest factor. I suggest taking a look at babypips.com. I love this course. Free online course! I took it twice when I first got started trading. I helped me a ton!

yes thanks i started trading 5 years ago with babypips, and i understand it is a robot, however i'm puzzled at the fact that it can make money opening different positions on each account, and that the account of lance has the same open trades since 15th june,

ok...so forget about funnel trader for a sec...let's say I open a long trade at 1 o clock on the EURUSD and at 2 o clock the fed comes out and says we are going to hike rates 32 more times this year. The market goes, well, nuts and brings the EURUSD down 49078 pips and my trade is still open with no stop loss. Now you come in at 3 o'clock, the EURUSD is slightly oversold (down 49078 pips, ok I kinda exaggerated my example) and you decide to place the same trade - long EURUSD. At this point, the market realizes that it's oversold and everyone starts buying the EURUSD. Now you are up 30 pips and take profit. Since the market is still taking USD profits and buying the EURUSD, you decide to buy another position. However, I'm wearing a frownie face because I'm still down 49048 pips. Anyway, in this example, U and I both took the same trade but only you made a profit because you had better TIMING. It's the same with funnel. It's all bout timing. That goes for any market and any trading system. I think that could be the single most overlooked part of trading is the bottom axis of the chart - the timing. Timing is EVERYTHING in trading. Dare I say .. more important than price action! Robot or manually trading, timing makes the difference between being in a drawdown from the 15th of June or taking profits all the way throughout the month. I'm not saying I planned that because I didn't (really lucky;) but I am saying that my trades just happened to be entered at a better TIME then Lance's. Sometimes it's the other way around so it all works out at the end of the month. If it was up to me I'd be in profit all month every month but unfortunately, I'm not the man up stairs so I'll take what He gives me :)

Choose a good reputation over great riches (PROVERBS 22:1)
roggerladislau (roggerladislau)
Jul 03 2018 at 05:49
11 posts
ryang123 posted:
roggerladislau posted:
Hello dude!

I just had a thinking very great!

Think with me!

If this Ea works with cycle profits, it can works even better the following way:

Account 1

Buy eurusd
Sell audusd
Sell eurjpy
Sell usdjpy
Sell nzdusd

-------------------------------

Account 2

Sell eurusd
Buy audusd
Buy eurjpy
Buy usdjpy
Buy nzdusd


We could tell for the owner to make a option to have in the robot one option to make only sell eurusd e buy the other

and only buy eurusd and sell the other, thus one account would make profits and the other could have temporary drawndown, and vice versa.


What do you think?

thanks

I thought the same thing a while back and I think I even told Lance about it. I even replicated it like this (I make my own systems too) but the problem is the drawdown is outweighed by the larger baskets. Yes, the other side would be taking profits but small in comparison. You would still need a substantial account size to run it. The one basket would also have a large drawdown.


Yes, this system is amazing man!

Now i am making a test with a $1000 account demo, but i think i need a minimum $3000 account in order to be safe with my free margin in the case the robot needs to open more positions, with $1000 with leverage 1:200 i was with very little free margin ( 500 ) and the ea was on the basket lotno4.

I am really thinking to invest money with that robot, i just see your account growing and this makes me happy as hell.

I want to make consistent profits $150 average every 2 weeks for me is great!

Your thoughts?

Thanks man!

ryang123 (ryang123)
Jul 03 2018 at 17:30
85 posts
roggerladislau posted:
ryang123 posted:
roggerladislau posted:
Hello dude!

I just had a thinking very great!

Think with me!

If this Ea works with cycle profits, it can works even better the following way:

Account 1

Buy eurusd
Sell audusd
Sell eurjpy
Sell usdjpy
Sell nzdusd

-------------------------------

Account 2

Sell eurusd
Buy audusd
Buy eurjpy
Buy usdjpy
Buy nzdusd


We could tell for the owner to make a option to have in the robot one option to make only sell eurusd e buy the other

and only buy eurusd and sell the other, thus one account would make profits and the other could have temporary drawndown, and vice versa.


What do you think?

thanks

I thought the same thing a while back and I think I even told Lance about it. I even replicated it like this (I make my own systems too) but the problem is the drawdown is outweighed by the larger baskets. Yes, the other side would be taking profits but small in comparison. You would still need a substantial account size to run it. The one basket would also have a large drawdown.


Yes, this system is amazing man!

Now i am making a test with a $1000 account demo, but i think i need a minimum $3000 account in order to be safe with my free margin in the case the robot needs to open more positions, with $1000 with leverage 1:200 i was with very little free margin ( 500 ) and the ea was on the basket lotno4.

I am really thinking to invest money with that robot, i just see your account growing and this makes me happy as hell.

I want to make consistent profits $150 average every 2 weeks for me is great!

Your thoughts?

Thanks man!

Yeah man its great! I average about $250/mo. Just be careful with it because it is a grid system with no stop loss. You have to have thick skin when it goes into big drawdowns and a lot of $$ in margin. I keep 5k on hand for it. The only issue I see with it is if we every have a massive bear market like 2008, that will be bad for funnel. But with today's market, its awesome.

Choose a good reputation over great riches (PROVERBS 22:1)
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