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togr

Miembro desde Feb 22, 2011  3865 mensajes vontogr (togr) Dec 15 2014 at 12:56
MyFxTrader posted:
togr posted:
MyFxTrader posted:
togr posted:
MyFxTrader posted:
togr posted:
MyFxTrader posted:
BluePanther posted:
MyFxTrader posted:
BluePanther posted:
marran posted:
will you be releasing your EA to everyone?


I am surprised you think it is an EA. The first conclusion most people say is: 'this is only possible with manual trading. There is no such thing as a Holy Grail EA.'

But if it works manually, why would it not work automatically? Bad programming? Or fundamental analysis (lack of)?


EA is predictable. Metaquotes has ability to read the codes once the EA is running. They know exactly what the EA will do. Thus, broker is always ahead of EA. Manual trading is less predictable.


Thank you for your input. So you are saying that MQL5 (developer of MT4) receives all the information from every / any MT4, and then colludes with the broker to work against the trader using an EA? There are a lot of MT4 accounts with hundreds of brokers, with thousands of EAs out there, all doing different things when the market moves on different instruments (forex, indexes, stocks)...

Can you provide some evidence to backup your knowledge? How do you know this? MQL5 must have an awfully big task being Big Brother! eek


If MetaTrader could cope with the tens of thousands of transactions across a wide latitude of instruments simultaneously with ease, there's no reason to think that to deal with every single trade individually is too big a task for them and is beyond their means. Many forums have brought into light regarding the MetaTrader individual 'plugin' which makes life difficult for traders.

By coding a system into an EA and then running it on the chart, we effectively revealed the blueprint of entire trading system to the broker. Even though we coded the EA, the fact remains that both the Metatrader & the MQL are proprietary of MetaQuotes. They are the boss. We are merely playing at their tuft. And to reveal our every move to them in the form of an EA makes matter worse.

What I'm saying is it easy for them to manipulated the feed if they choose to and whenever the opportunity is presented to them with this individual 'plugin' to mitigate an EA from making profits as they already know all the moves in advance. Manual trading on the other hand suffers no such deficiency. That's why a successful manual system very often become less profitable once it's running on an EA. But of course there is only so much they can do because there is definitely a threshold on how much the feed can be manipulated.


That's pure nonsense. The computing power needed would be beyond capacity of any computer. Moreover they have much simpler tools like the plugin you mentioned.


The nonsense is all coming from you. Computer? Right they use home PCs as their servers.


Yes and FBI is reading you mind... Do you wear an alluminium hat :)


As usual nothing more than a load crock coming from someone with the mentality of a 16 year of schoolboy.

You talk about yourself:)


Another glaring example that attest to my claims. I'm done wasting my time here responding to a juvenile.

Exactly. It is quite frustrating to talk someone who believes metaquotes is monitoring all running eas and doing
doing what actually?

I like what I trade, I trade what I like
togr

Miembro desde Feb 22, 2011  3865 mensajes vontogr (togr) Dec 15 2014 at 12:59
Furax posted:
This copie is about a method, not a performance... so let's learn by yourself because nobody can do it for you.
Personnaly, I prefer my EA.

Whatever you say

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alexforex007

Miembro desde Oct 11, 2013  664 mensajes alexforex007 Dec 15 2014 at 13:02
A system that works manually will not necessarily work automatically. If it is working manually, it is because the trader knows when and how to filter the signals. An EA has to be too sophisticated to be able to do that.

togr

Miembro desde Feb 22, 2011  3865 mensajes vontogr (togr) Dec 15 2014 at 13:16
@alexforex007
If you know when to enter and exit the trades as manual trader
then you can program EA that will do the same and execute the system better than you.
If you dont have such rules you should not trade even manually

I like what I trade, I trade what I like
BoneTrader

Miembro desde Oct 27, 2012  35 mensajes BoneTrader Dec 15 2014 at 13:25
togr posted:
@alexforex007
If you know when to enter and exit the trades as manual trader
then you can program EA that will do the same and execute the system better than you.
If you dont have such rules you should not trade even manually

why so serious and strict? :) Machines are still far from behave as real AI so the day when robots will totally replace human even only on market is still far...

¡ŋ ђθς ş¡ģŋθ ұ¡ŋςəş /
togr

Miembro desde Feb 22, 2011  3865 mensajes vontogr (togr) Dec 15 2014 at 13:30
BoneTrader posted:
togr posted:
@alexforex007
If you know when to enter and exit the trades as manual trader
then you can program EA that will do the same and execute the system better than you.
If you dont have such rules you should not trade even manually

why so serious and strict? :) Machines are still far from behave as real AI so the day when robots will totally replace human even only on market is still far...

@BoneTrader
you should check what percentage of trades are already executed by 'machines'

I like what I trade, I trade what I like
BoneTrader

Miembro desde Oct 27, 2012  35 mensajes BoneTrader Dec 15 2014 at 13:42
@togr still I doubt that marketmakers use an EAs for trading. That outbalances all the trades that EAs execute at the moment.

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Furax

Miembro desde Oct 28, 2010  92 mensajes Furax Dec 15 2014 at 13:50
togr posted:
BoneTrader posted:
togr posted:
@alexforex007
If you know when to enter and exit the trades as manual trader
then you can program EA that will do the same and execute the system better than you.
If you dont have such rules you should not trade even manually

why so serious and strict? :) Machines are still far from behave as real AI so the day when robots will totally replace human even only on market is still far...

@BoneTrader
you should check what percentage of trades are already executed by 'machines'


Yes, you allways need to trust your machines :



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On entend l'arbre qui tombe mais pas la forêt qui pousse...
togr

Miembro desde Feb 22, 2011  3865 mensajes vontogr (togr) Dec 15 2014 at 13:56 (editado a las Dec 15 2014 at 13:58 )
BoneTrader posted:
@togr still I doubt that marketmakers use an EAs for trading. That outbalances all the trades that EAs execute at the moment.

@BoneTrader
An automated trading system (ATS) is a computer trading program that automatically submits trades to an exchange. Automated trading systems are often used with other forms of electronic trading, such as electronic communication network, 'dark pools' and algorithmic trading.[1] As of the year 2010 more than 70% of the stock shares traded on the NYSE and NASDAQ are generated from automated trading systems.[citation needed] They are designed to trade stocks, futures and forex based on a predefined set of rules which determine when to enter a trade, when to exit it and how much to invest in it.Trading strategies come in many different shapes and sizes, some preferring to pick market tops and bottoms, others coded to ride the daily trend, and everything in between. [2]

Algorithmic trading may be used in any investment strategy, including market making, inter-market spreading, arbitrage, or pure speculation (including trend following). The investment decision and implementation may be augmented at any stage with algorithmic support or may operate completely automatically. One of the main issues regarding HFT is the difficulty in determining how profitable it is. A report released in August 2009 by the TABB Group, a financial services industry research firm, estimated that the 300 securities firms and hedge funds that specialize in this type of trading took in a maximum of US$21 billion in profits in 2008,[6] which the authors called 'relatively small' and 'surprisingly modest' when compared to the market's overall trading volume. In March 2014, Virtu Financial, a high-frequency trading firm, reported that during five years it made profit 1,277 out of 1,278 days, losing money just one day.[7]


I like what I trade, I trade what I like
togr

Miembro desde Feb 22, 2011  3865 mensajes vontogr (togr) Dec 15 2014 at 13:58
Furax posted:
togr posted:
BoneTrader posted:
togr posted:
@alexforex007
If you know when to enter and exit the trades as manual trader
then you can program EA that will do the same and execute the system better than you.
If you dont have such rules you should not trade even manually

why so serious and strict? :) Machines are still far from behave as real AI so the day when robots will totally replace human even only on market is still far...

@BoneTrader
you should check what percentage of trades are already executed by 'machines'


Yes, you allways need to trust your machines :




And what is exactly purpose of your picture of BT with funny 90% precision?

I like what I trade, I trade what I like
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