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Forex Envy v3.2 Ultra/Power (de forex_trader_47717)

El usuario ha borrado este sistema.

Discusión Forex Envy v3.2 Ultra/Power

Oct 12, 2012 at 05:26
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57 Replies
Miembro desde Apr 18, 2012   posts 102
Oct 18, 2012 at 06:42
OK I'll bite.
What are the Manual Mode Ultra setting that work with $2,000?
No ROI in a dead account
Miembro desde Jul 29, 2011   posts 25
Oct 18, 2012 at 13:39
Looks like some heavy martingale settings with multiplier 2 ... Looks fun :D settings please ... :)
Miembro desde Aug 22, 2009   posts 390
Oct 18, 2012 at 13:58
You set it up again after you get margin call or new about this EA. Watch out, sooner or later your might wipe out your account

Anyway It is 95% same as Forex-Hacked
youngchang@
ForexEnvy
forex_trader_47717
Miembro desde Sep 14, 2011   posts 21
Oct 18, 2012 at 15:10
If you knew anything about Forex Envy you would know we have a very specific money management system and we never recommend anyone run our system with all their capital or not to make regular withdraws.

This is clearly detailed in our Members Area and in our strategy page: https://www.forexenvy.com/our-strategy/

If you think we are the same as forex hacked, then use forex hacked. You will not get the same results.


-Team Envy
Miembro desde May 24, 2010   posts 371
Oct 18, 2012 at 16:03
ForexEnvy you restart accounts and kill bills of other customers. For this EA $379!!!!

I watch you long and I think you've killed most customers accounts. I hope that you are well earned for sale your EA!!!



https://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/forex-envy-power-edition/305268,35#?pt=2&p=33&o=305268
ForexEnvy
forex_trader_47717
Miembro desde Sep 14, 2011   posts 21
Oct 18, 2012 at 16:13
So you are posting an account that made 1,600% growth and saying it was a failure?!?

With our strategy we only need to make over 100% returns and at that point all the rest of the returns are pure profit.

Don't you understand that we always recommend making weekly withdraws of all profits made? We do not do this with our demonstration accounts because they are for demonstration purposes and we want to show better growth by compounding profits.

A lot of people are using fake copies of Envy and blow their accounts or choose to run really high risk. You cannot hold that against us.

This is version 3.2 and it is quite stable and very profitable.

You will see if you keep watching this account.

-Team Envy
Miembro desde May 24, 2010   posts 371
Oct 18, 2012 at 17:22
ForexEnvy posted:
So you are posting an account that made 1,600% growth and saying it was a failure?!?

With our strategy we only need to make over 100% returns and at that point all the rest of the returns are pure profit.

Don't you understand that we always recommend making weekly withdraws of all profits made? We do not do this with our demonstration accounts because they are for demonstration purposes and we want to show better growth by compounding profits.

A lot of people are using fake copies of Envy and blow their accounts or choose to run really high risk. You cannot hold that against us.

This is version 3.2 and it is quite stable and very profitable.

You will see if you keep watching this account.

-Team Envy

Do not make a fool of me. You can ashamed!!!

1.600%, and where you now have the profit? All you have lost. This is success!!!

It's interesting that you use your own EA and you account is blow. Don't excuse on fake copies of Envy.

On Forex Envy Power Edition you said that is also quite stable and very profitable. This account is also martingale. Will be same fate.

10.16.2012 14:13 10.18.2012 14:57 USDCAD Buy 0.04 0.95696 0.98055 0.98664 0.98018 -64.6 -26.36 2d -0.31%
10.16.2012 15:16 10.18.2012 14:57 USDCAD Buy 0.04 0.95696 0.98055 0.98564 0.98020 -54.4 -22.20 1d -0.26%
10.17.2012 12:42 10.18.2012 14:57 USDCAD Buy 0.04 0.95696 0.98055 0.98462 0.98018 -44.4 -18.12 1d -0.21%
10.17.2012 14:31 10.18.2012 14:57 USDCAD Buy 0.08 0.95696 0.98055 0.98362 0.98018 -34.4 -28.08 1d -0.33%
10.17.2012 14:41 10.18.2012 14:57 USDCAD Buy 0.16 0.95696 0.98055 0.98235 0.98018 -21.7 -35.42 1d -0.41%
10.17.2012 17:20 10.18.2012 14:57 USDCAD Buy 0.32 0.95696 0.98055 0.98126 0.98018 -10.8 -35.26 21h 36m -0.41%
10.17.2012 17:32 10.18.2012 14:57 USDCAD Buy 0.64 0.95696 0.98055 0.98007 0.98018 1.1 7.18 21h 25m 0.08%
10.17.2012 19:28 10.18.2012 14:57 USDCAD Buy 1.28 0.95696 0.98055 0.97903 0.98018 11.5 150.18 19h 28m 1.78%
10.17.2012 20:59 10.18.2012 14:57 USDCAD Buy 2.56 0.95696 0.98055 0.97802 0.98017 21.5 561.54 17h 58m 7.11%
10.18.2012 04:01 10.18.2012 14:57 USDCAD Buy 5.12 0.95696 0.98055 0.97702 0.98023 32.1 1676.67 10h 56m 26.95%
ForexEnvy
forex_trader_47717
Miembro desde Sep 14, 2011   posts 21
Oct 18, 2012 at 17:27
You are right. On a long enough time frame ALL OF OUR ACCOUNTS WILL FAIL.

I think you are missing the point. Our objective is simply to average over 100% returns between account failures. If we can accomplish this we are a profitable system.

I think you need to read our website again under the strategy section: https://www.forexenvy.com/our-strategy/

This is clearly stated.

-Team Envy
Miembro desde May 08, 2012   posts 321
Oct 18, 2012 at 18:31 (editado Oct 18, 2012 at 18:39)
Jarora;

I don't know if you are ignorant, naive, or both. I trade, and have traded a number of different systems. You cannot make big gains with little risk. The Envy team is probably the most open and honest of any system when it comes to draw downs and account blowouts. They are the ONLY ones that have ever told me that the account may in fact blow out, and that I should trade every day as if it will blow out. Per there recommendations, I withdraw my profits weekly and they are handsome. Money management is CRUCIAL. Your account MUST be adequately funded. My account did not blow out when Envy's PAMM account did. I maintained a level of capital that was more than the required balance for the set files used. My account recovered completely the day after Envy's PAMM blew out, and profited nicely.

Instead of being so vindictive, actually listen to what they are saying. Had you started your account when they did, and made 23% a month like they did, you would have been smiling when the account blew out. A 20,000 dollar account would have made 30,000 in profits that you would have transferred into separate account. When the account blew, 20,00 of the 30,000 would have been needed to restart the account leaving you with 10,000 in profits or a 50% return for 5 months. BOO FUCKING HOO! This is the game. Live it or stay home. If you don't have the balls, then stay out of the bedroom.



War is when your government tells you who the enemy is. Revolution is when you figure out, for yourself, who the enemy is.
ForexScam
forex_trader_32776
Miembro desde Mar 28, 2011   posts 1008
Oct 18, 2012 at 19:30
Michigander posted:


The Envy team is probably the most open and honest of any system when it comes to draw downs and account blowouts.

My account did not blow out when Envy's PAMM account did.

 you would have been smiling when the account blew out.

When the account blew,

I don't know if you are ignorant, naive, or both


😲

What Blown accounts? Envy Blew Accounts? I only see ONE up above!
Miembro desde Aug 22, 2009   posts 390
Oct 18, 2012 at 20:29 (editado Oct 18, 2012 at 20:31)
I have followed forex envy instructions after I purchase their envy EA, about 6 or 7 weeks later It hit the margin call,

So I have requested my money back, then they said It had passed 30 days they guarantee, so they do not give money back.

Now they set up new account and try to sell their EA to NEW myfxbook members. They do not care the EA buyer they lose money or not.

They make money only selling their EA. If they make that much money why they do not invest their money in forex that trade with their EA- forex envy.

If you buy it, Just push your luck. I just gave up and using other EA

Just test forex hacked and compare with forex envy, maybe foerex hacked make more money. I have tested side by side.
youngchang@
Miembro desde May 08, 2012   posts 321
Oct 18, 2012 at 20:51
What Blown accounts? Envy Blew Accounts? I only see ONE up above!

Yes, the one up above is the PAMM account that blew out. Where is the disconnect?

There are so many variables in whether or not an system is successful that it is of no value to just say something sucks or something is a scam. Are you trading the default risk settings? Or are you trading more aggressively? Do you follow instructions well? One of the biggest issues is capital. Whats your margin? You just cant trade systems like Forex Hacked or Forex Envy with 500 bucks or even 5,000 bucks.

I am trading Envy using the long cycle pairs only. In this mode it is equivalent to Forex Hacked as far as returns go. I know a few people trading Hacked and they have had to add money to the account to prevent a margin call so don't even try to tell me how safe Hacked is. Envy with the short and long cycle pairs blows Hacked doors off in performance.

These systems perform, but they are rattlesnakes. Any system that makes a lot of money is. If you do not manage your risk through systems diversification and money management you are doomed.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Michigander/forex-envy/304859

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Michigander/forex-hacked/368619
War is when your government tells you who the enemy is. Revolution is when you figure out, for yourself, who the enemy is.
Miembro desde Aug 22, 2009   posts 390
Oct 18, 2012 at 21:59 (editado Oct 18, 2012 at 22:01)
It's depend on how the market move as You know. You are lucky so far. I did run it with Long cycle also.

I have installed on only 5 pairs for $7500.00 account with Long Cycle. Not only me. Please view the chart some one uploaded chart which is the same as mine. Most of envy EA user and their Envy account itself hit the margin call and sent email to all envy purchaser saying that they will modify their EA, but I think they can't improve or modify with martingale.
youngchang@
ForexScam
forex_trader_32776
Miembro desde Mar 28, 2011   posts 1008
Oct 18, 2012 at 22:26 (editado Oct 18, 2012 at 22:41)
Michigander posted:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Michigander/forex-envy/304859

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Michigander/forex-hacked/368619

aug sept and oct are all about the same. but anyways, the Pairs Traded with griddistance, multiplier and basket TP is what makes the difference.
anyways,

since your an envy user, I'm surprised you didn't sense the sarcasm in my post.

Forex Envy Pamm accounts were deleted - https://pamm.hotforex.com/en/fund-manager-details.html?l=58974123512456235456339&usermode=0

https://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/hot-forex-pamm-account/304250,1

including their synergy PAMM

And Not including their Long/Short cycle before these PAMM accounts blew.

https://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/forex-envy-longshort-cycle/199477,1

Even recommended setting from the vendor are suicide and I'm sure that is something we can agree on.

This $20 account is just for SHOW. I see the setting are reduced to 0.01 now.

 
ForexScam
forex_trader_32776
Miembro desde Mar 28, 2011   posts 1008
Oct 18, 2012 at 22:38 (editado Oct 18, 2012 at 22:41)
Michigander posted:
What Blown accounts? Envy Blew Accounts? I only see ONE up above!

Yes, the one up above is the PAMM account that blew out. Where is the disconnect?

No it's not the same account. In the Picture is this one
https://www.myfxbook.com/community/trading-systems/forex-envy-power-edition/305268,1

Miembro desde May 08, 2012   posts 321
Oct 18, 2012 at 22:57
youngchang posted:
It's depend on how the market move as You know. You are lucky so far. I did run it with Long cycle also.

I have installed on only 5 pairs for $7500.00 account with Long Cycle. Not only me. Please view the chart some one uploaded chart which is the same as mine. Most of envy EA user and their Envy account itself hit the margin call and sent email to all envy purchaser saying that they will modify their EA, but I think they can't improve or modify with martingale.


What was your margin? What date did you begin trading it? Don't point to someone else's chart. Show me yours.

Sometimes the mere timing of your start date can be a shit sandwich. Take a look at Toms EA. Its a rattlesnake worse than Envy.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/TomsEaWPFXlive/tomsea-wpfx-live/151409

They started in Aug of 2011. They took a huge hit in May of 2012. Lots of people bitched. Their answer was, 'This shit happens. Look at how much we are still up.' That is no comfort to the ones that just started trading March and April.

You are playing roulette with any and all of these systems. To think otherwise is naive. You willingness to trade any of these EA's is just like rolling the tumbler in a gun. Your hope is to win enough, and squirrel away enough profits to pay for the damages when the gun goes off, and still have some left. These systems have been back tested but they cannot account for and, in some cases, deal with these huge news events that happen as the global collapse continues like a slow motion train wreck. The big HFT's (High Frequency Traders) are moving into the currency markets more and more as their profits in the equity markets declines adding yet more uncertainties to these systems. Do you even know what took Envy down? Do you know what the news event was? I watched it unfold the day it happened.

https://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/sep/12/eurozone-crisis-german-court-bailout-fund

The Euro popped on this bullshit hype news that was ultimately meaningless and never looked back. It was off and up, and broke the Envy bank that day. My margins were getting dangerously low, but about the time I was gong to transfer funds to prop things up, the Euro began enough of a pause and retracement that it took the pressure off. By the very next day, I made a bunch of money on the retracement and things were back to normal.

Like it or not, this is a game of maturity. If you put a damn dollar on the line, you better be prepared to lose it. You can't play with scared money. This, like aviation ( I fly my own plane too), is the ultimate in personal responsibility. It's up to you to sift through the hype and the bullshit and make a choice. Like Indiana Jones was told when picking the chalice of Christ...CHOOSE WISELY. I can tell you there aren't many out there to choose from. Its not Envy's...or Hacked...Or Toms EA...or MDP...or...or...or...that you lost your money. Its yours. That's the game. Make your choices and run with the big dogs or stay on the porch.
War is when your government tells you who the enemy is. Revolution is when you figure out, for yourself, who the enemy is.
Miembro desde Aug 22, 2009   posts 390
Oct 19, 2012 at 00:44 (editado Oct 19, 2012 at 00:58)
This guy seems like getting a commission from selling Envy.

I just telling my story with forex envy. All decided by my own from FPA.

I am not complaining about losing my money, lost about 20k with 6 accounts, Just telling my story with forex envy which installed for their instructions. starting 0.01 lot for 5 pairs with 7.5k account with long cycle. it's less than their recommend. they recommended 7 pairs with 7.5K equity. I still have their email from them.

I bought envy EA about 4 weeks before they open a PAMM account in hotforex.

I wish you make good bucks with forex envy. You know you are not my competition.

This is my last message regarding forex Envy.

Good luck.
youngchang@
Miembro desde May 08, 2012   posts 321
Oct 19, 2012 at 00:51
Nope, no commission. Just a user. You take the time to write and bitch. I take the time to write and hopefully educate the newbie that may stumble across the thread. Nothing more.

My last post too. Good luck with your trading.
War is when your government tells you who the enemy is. Revolution is when you figure out, for yourself, who the enemy is.
Miembro desde Jun 24, 2012   posts 69
Oct 19, 2012 at 06:47
I am user of Forex Envy from July, It was bad timing, my account was slightly underfund, It blew up while other user no problem.

I was lucky that my account passed Sept/16 bad market, Why? My account have 50% more fund than requirement, it passed Sept/16 with high DD.

Hi YoungChang, You meantioned that you had 7.5K with 5 pairs with 0.01 lots, I might be wrong that you was underfund like me, I had 13K in account /0.01 lots and it blew up while other account with 18K passed, I blew 2 accounts because underfund problem.

I must say that Forex envy is a danger EA with high return, If there are other better EA with good return and safer, Please let me know, I tried other EA too, They are either low return or more risky than Forex Envy.

Regarding complaint on negative basket, I think that it might be broker problem, If you have this problem, try other broker.

I am still using ver 3, It have been very profitable after Sept/16 with low DD, Amazing to me.

I am happy that Ver 3.2 here, I am sure that there are some improvement there.















ForexScam
forex_trader_32776
Miembro desde Mar 28, 2011   posts 1008
Oct 19, 2012 at 07:21
No matter what . a Martingale Grid is risky. However, with correct Capital requirements and with safety Protocols the system can live through the bad while most MARGRID strategies Blow up. Its always best to be over funded or have back up equity in another Slave account to add when FreeMargin and DD need a BOOST for survival.

I've also developed several safety protocols to extend the life of MARGRID without diminishing the returns. Check out it out below!

Forex Envy Alternative - https://www.pipinvestment.com/forex-identity-ea

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/pipinvestmentbot/forex-identity-forex-envy-alternative/395109

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