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Professional4X
Jun 19 2017 at 06:28
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For the last few months I have been testing a new trading system that I have been working on.

Traders Way, Automated, 1:1000 , MetaTrader 4
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Professional4X/neural-network-traders-way/2148985


Oanda, Fundamental, Automated, 1:50 , MetaTrader 4 (United States)
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Professional4X/advanced-neural-network/2146516


As you can see above the results form the testing period on the training accounts appear to be extremely profitable.

I will now begin managing a small live account with the same system that produced the above shown results.



If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
Professional4X
Jun 19 2017 at 06:33
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I opened the history up so people can see the trades after they have closed.

This way you can individually verify the trades as being authentic if you feel the need to.

I have closed the open trades & open orders from public viewing however, due to the fact the system is running in fully autonomous mode and I have given complete control over the trading account to the system.

Please understand that I feel it would be unethical to allow someone to copy the open trades on this account at this point in time, because it could easily cause someone to lose money on their live account.

Once the system has proven itself for a reasonable length of time, then I will consider allowing people to copy the trades.





If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
Professional4X
Jun 19 2017 at 06:34
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I know I said this on the demo accounts I was training on, but I feel that I need to say this here as well.

** WARNING ** WARNING ** WARNING ** WARNING ** WARNING **

THIS SYSTEM IS HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL AND SHOULD NOT BE COPIED FOR TRADING.


This account is being managed by an autonomous neural network of my own design and implementation.

This is a live account (real money), and is with a highly regulated, reputable brokerage in the United States.

This system is a new and unique design created by myself from scratch.

The ultimate goal for this system is to create a neural network that can trade better than any professional human trader in the world.


THIS SYSTEM IS HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL AND SHOULD NOT BE COPIED FOR TRADING.

** WARNING ** WARNING ** WARNING ** WARNING ** WARNING **

If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
Professional4X
Jun 19 2017 at 06:34
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Question:
How much is your system and where can I buy it.

Answer: It isn't for sale. Not for any amount of money. Don't ask, it isn't going to happen. If the system works as intended, why would I consider selling it? If it works, it will create a great deal of wealth, so I really don't need anyone to give me money. No thank you. I have enough start up capital to begin trading with already.



Question: Is this an EA?

Answer: Yes & No. There is an EA that runs on a chart, but it isn't making any of the trading decisions. The EA just communicates to a dedicated server and awaits instructions. The dedicated server is running a unique and high experimental neural network system.



Question: Is it fully autonomous?

Answer: Yes, It makes all decisions related to trading the markets.



Question: What strategy is this system using?

Answer: The AI is making all the decisions about how to trade the account. It is determining the strategy on its own.



Question: If it works, and you make a lot of money what are you going to do with it?

Answer: I would like to help impoverished families make a better life for themselves and their children. I will be putting a great deal of the wealth into making the world a better place.

If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
Professional4X
Jun 19 2017 at 06:36
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Currently the DD is 1.27% and there are 12 trades open.

As long as the initial DD isn't going above 40%, I am 'OKAY' with the DD for now, as long as it keeps making profitable trades.

Smaller accounts in general are more sensitive to larger draw down percentages, this is because there is simply less to work with, and the account only has a 1:50 leverage because it is a US based account.


If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
Professional4X
Jun 20 2017 at 06:18
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Account has 11% DD, this is absolutely an acceptable level. As long as it doesn't go above 40%, I am 'OKAY' with it for now.

The system appears to have bought into the pull back on the EURUSD and is heavily long at the moment.

I'm going to just trust the system to do it's job, since it produced exceedingly positive results on the demo training accounts.

The aggression level for trading is set to the lowest setting because it is a small account and it is trading only when there is a 90% or greater high probability of making a profit.

The trading goal is 50% per month.

If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
Professional4X
Jun 20 2017 at 06:19
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I find it interesting that people are down voting the system, but they can't be bothered to actually discuss anything on the board here.

If you feel the need to down vote, perhaps you could explain why and discuss the system, before making negative judgements.
If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
George (pipsquick1957)
Jun 20 2017 at 20:27
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I dont see any negative comments so far, so I dont know what you mean by down voting. I have never voted for any of the systems on this site, because its pretty much meaningless, and I have been on here for many years.

 You didnt answer all of my questions on my last post on your demo account, maybe you missed it but please read it again.
George (pipsquick1957)
Jun 21 2017 at 13:30
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Why is your live account not up dating today ?? It appears that all your buys were in profit at today's highs, but not sure if the buys are still open or not.
Professional4X
Jun 21 2017 at 19:08
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pipsquick1957 posted:
Why is your live account not up dating today ?? It appears that all your buys were in profit at today's highs, but not sure if the buys are still open or not.

There are numerous tickets that are open on the account, those will update on the stats page only when they are closed out by the system. I don't have any control on how often that actually happens with myfxbook.
If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
Professional4X
Jun 21 2017 at 19:16
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pipsquick1957 posted:
 I dont see any negative comments so far, so I dont know what you mean by down voting. I have never voted for any of the systems on this site, because its pretty much meaningless, and I have been on here for many years.

 You didnt answer all of my questions on my last post on your demo account, maybe you missed it but please read it again.

Thank you for participating in the discussion. I appreciate it.

I was referring to people rating the system 1 to 5 stars.

The reason I was saying something about it, is because people rated the system 1 star before the system had even bothered making trade. My point really was that if someone is going to take the time to rate the system, they should at least participate in the discussion. That is all.

Honestly it doesn't make much difference to me if people rate it 5 stars or 1 star or someplace in between.
It's just that if someone is going to take the time to rate the system, then it would be appreciated if they would also leave me a comment telling me why they gave it that rating.

I know there is always room for improvement on all system, and feedback from others helps me understand things from a viewpoint other than my own.

In regard to the demo accounts....
I took the demo accounts down because they are no longer needed. I am no longer trading this system on demo.
So there is no need to keep managing them.

In regard to unanswered questions that might have previously asked me elsewhere..

Please feel free to ask them again here on this discussion, and I would be very happy to answer them for you. No problem.

Thank you for participating in the discussion. I truly do appreciate it.
If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
Professional4X
Jun 21 2017 at 19:27
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pipsquick1957 posted:
Why is your live account not up dating today ?? It appears that all your buys were in profit at today's highs, but not sure if the buys are still open or not.

I did a quick check on the system to make sure something wasn't wrong....

It is updating.


The order basket contains several items in the order basket.
Some are profitable and some are not.
The system is holding the winning trades open to cover the losing trades.

If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
Professional4X
Jun 23 2017 at 17:24
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System appears to be extremely stable and profitable.

With a result of +6.18% gain for the week, I am extremely happy with the results.

Using a base investment of $5000.00 US dollars and working with a simple compounding rate of 6.18% each week over a period of 104 weeks (2 years). We have the potential of growing the account balance to over 2.5 Million US dollars.









If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
George (pipsquick1957)
Jun 23 2017 at 18:18
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Thats all fine and dandy, but your demo was doing over 400% ROI per month, so you might be happy with 6.18% per week, but thats a pale comparison to what your demo accounts did for 3 months.

I am not trying to be negative here, but just wondering why the performance went way down on the live account.
Professional4X
Jun 23 2017 at 20:45
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pipsquick1957 posted:
Thats all fine and dandy, but your demo was doing over 400% ROI per month, so you might be happy with 6.18% per week, but thats a pale comparison to what your demo accounts did for 3 months.

I am not trying to be negative here, but just wondering why the performance went way down on the live account.


The demo training account went from $50,000.00 USD to over $900,000.00 in three months.

The difference between that account and this one is as follows:

Live account (this one) is with the US Broker Oanda, with a maximum leverage of 1:50, FIFO enforced, and no hedging, and it's smaller initial deposit.

With the demo I allowed for a maximum aggression level for trading because I wanted the system to teach itself to trade.

Whereas with this account, I am risking my own actual money, that I personally funded the account with, so I want it to trade as safe as possible, while still producing profitable results.

Once the system has shown me it isn't going to do something incredibly stupid with my money, then I will allow it to start trading with a more aggressive lot size allowance.

This is the first week of trading for the system on the Live account, so I have the trading aggression tolerance levels set to an absolute minimum.

Since it is the first time this system has traded on a live account, I have to be sure the system is being extremely careful with the amount of allowable risk.

Also, it really isn't a pale comparison. The goal of the system is to trade a live account with a 50% gain per month.

The system in it's current profitability level made 6.18% gain from 6/20 until 6/23.

That's an average of 2% per day that it traded, on the lowest possible aggression level for trading.

The account was started on 6/19, but the first trade wasn't until 6/20. So it only had 3 actual days of trading.

So if we take into consideration that there are approximately 25 trading days in a month, depending the month of course, a system that makes a 2% a day gain, is in fact 50% per month. Once the aggression level has been increased, and the account size grows, you should start seeing considerably more gains.

Smaller accounts are going to experience higher DD and lower gain percentages. Over time, the system will be able to make more trades, with large trade sizes. But for now, I've instructed the system to be as careful as possible, because I don't want to lose my money.



If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
George (pipsquick1957)
Jun 23 2017 at 21:06
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Thanks for your detailed explanation, as it makes perfect sense. Please remember that there is only 22 trading days per month, and if you factor in holidays its actually 21 days.

 From what I can see, you should easily be able to crank it up as your balance grows, and your confidence in this system grows as well. Your draw down was also very low considering your gains on the demo accounts.

 Are you a programmer yourself or did you hire one for all your programming needs?? This is probably one of the most sophisticated trading systems that I have ever seen, using neural networks as the brains behind the logic.

 In other words you wrote some software that basically reads the markets and makes trading decisions all on its own, so congratulations are in order. Can you PM me your email address please or Skype.
Professional4X
Jun 23 2017 at 22:52
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pipsquick1957 posted:
 Thanks for your detailed explanation, as it makes perfect sense. Please remember that there is only 22 trading days per month, and if you factor in holidays its actually 21 days.

Yes you are correct. I should have looked at the calendar a little more closely.

Thank you for pointing that out to me,


pipsquick1957 posted:
 From what I can see, you should easily be able to crank it up as your balance grows, and your confidence in this system grows as well. Your draw down was also very low considering your gains on the demo accounts.

Correct.

I will be allowing the system to trade more aggressively as the account grows.

One of the problems that the system was encountering is the leverage and margin issues on US Based accounts.

On smaller US Based accounts, I can only open very small number of very small trades before it uses up the available margin.

I found that on the offshore account with considerably higher leverage, the available margin was hardly impacted at all. So there is a much less risk to the account.

pipsquick1957 posted:
Are you a programmer yourself or did you hire one for all your programming needs??

I designed and coded 100% of the system.


pipsquick1957 posted:
This is probably one of the most sophisticated trading systems that I have ever seen, using neural networks as the brains behind the logic.

I appreciate the feedback. Thank you.



pipsquick1957 posted:
 In other words you wrote some software that basically reads the markets and makes trading decisions all on its own, so congratulations are in order. Can you PM me your email address please or Skype.

Thank you. :)

And yes, you are correct.
The system is learning how to interpret the markets and make trading decisions on it's own.

I'll send you a private message.


If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
Russ
Always
Jun 25 2017 at 07:40
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Professional4X
Jun 25 2017 at 17:39
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Always posted:
I give you 5 stars.

Thank you I appreciate it.
If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
scambuster456
Jun 26 2017 at 06:43
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