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shotputty
Mar 12 2019 at 10:47
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Q_FxTrader posted:
Because for someone to become a popular signal provider, he has to make very high % consistent daily return, otherwise, no one will even look into the signals. In order to do that obviously the signal provider has to take high risk in his account.

Next, once it becomes a little popular and number of subscribers become more, it becomes the target of big players like brokers or funds who can just manipulate the market price a couple of times so that the account will be wiped out and signal will collapse.


In my short history I can confirm this for a few signals already. When I join a signal it has not so many followers, then after a few weeks there are hundreds of followers. Then it busts. History repeating.

The ugly truth is you have to figure it out yourself and let nobody join your strategy :-p

OutsideTheBoxHK
Mar 13 2019 at 07:00
129 件の投稿
Q_FxTrader posted:
It is usually difficult to find reliable signal providers to continue with them in long term. Same is true to become a long term signal provider as well.

Because for someone to become a popular signal provider, he has to make very high % consistent daily return, otherwise, no one will even look into the signals. In order to do that obviously the signal provider has to take high risk in his account.

Next, once it becomes a little popular and number of subscribers become more, it becomes the target of big players like brokers or funds who can just manipulate the market price a couple of times so that the account will be wiped out and signal will collapse.

Many of the subscribers who have been following signals here will agree with me for most of the signals. Only those signals which makes a very low % return may continue for long time, but again the signal provider may not find much subscribers and he might be profitable even more by offering MAM.

In my perspective, the best practice is to start taking control of the signals and it's followers amounts etc once it becomes popular to fully monitor the trades and it's activity so that the trades or trading system will not be misused or manipulated by big players.

Though I was not sure whether to provide signals or offer MAM service, finally I have decided to start as a signal provider first in high risk mode and then, proceed from there. My signals might be available within next few days or weeks.




I have already ventured on this path that you have described above -- over the past 25 months. And I have done all the things you are talking about.
I do not wholly agreed though about brokers/funds targeting a signal once it becomes popular. No intervention or manipulation on their part can have anything to do with open trades of a signal provider. these are straw man arguments. common excuses for poor performance.

Listed at Darwinex or Trade Copying (MQL5, SignalStart). Please vouch for my system. “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”
OutsideTheBoxHK
Mar 13 2019 at 07:02
129 件の投稿
shotputty posted:
Q_FxTrader posted:
Because for someone to become a popular signal provider, he has to make very high % consistent daily return, otherwise, no one will even look into the signals. In order to do that obviously the signal provider has to take high risk in his account.

Next, once it becomes a little popular and number of subscribers become more, it becomes the target of big players like brokers or funds who can just manipulate the market price a couple of times so that the account will be wiped out and signal will collapse.


In my short history I can confirm this for a few signals already. When I join a signal it has not so many followers, then after a few weeks there are hundreds of followers. Then it busts. History repeating.

The ugly truth is you have to figure it out yourself and let nobody join your strategy :-p


this is entirely due to what traders and system analysts call 'capacity' or 'divergence'.
The more simultaneous funds that are being executed with one system, that system must not have high divergence. otherwise it's 'capacity' will destroy any profits gained.
Darwinex explains this in their 'Investable Attributes' of 'capacity'. See DARWIN BUX, BUC, and XUX to understand these performance metrics.

Listed at Darwinex or Trade Copying (MQL5, SignalStart). Please vouch for my system. “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”
forex_trader_[565984]
Mar 13 2019 at 07:03
144 件の投稿
shotputty posted:
Q_FxTrader posted:
Because for someone to become a popular signal provider, he has to make very high % consistent daily return, otherwise, no one will even look into the signals. In order to do that obviously the signal provider has to take high risk in his account.

Next, once it becomes a little popular and number of subscribers become more, it becomes the target of big players like brokers or funds who can just manipulate the market price a couple of times so that the account will be wiped out and signal will collapse.


In my short history I can confirm this for a few signals already. When I join a signal it has not so many followers, then after a few weeks there are hundreds of followers. Then it busts. History repeating.

The ugly truth is you have to figure it out yourself and let nobody join your strategy :-p

true.

Unfortunately, that is the reality of the forex trading and signal service.

But actually it is not always the number of subscribers which make the algo fail, rather it is the volume of money which make the algo fail.

Also, usually the 100% winning systems busts easily, because the signal providers don't want to loose their track record of trading by closing in loss and ultimately wipe out the balance. That is exactly what the big players take the advantage and manipulate the price for a couple of times and all money gone.

tamirsa
Mar 13 2019 at 07:28
61 件の投稿
shotputty posted:
Q_FxTrader posted:
Because for someone to become a popular signal provider, he has to make very high % consistent daily return, otherwise, no one will even look into the signals. In order to do that obviously the signal provider has to take high risk in his account.

Next, once it becomes a little popular and number of subscribers become more, it becomes the target of big players like brokers or funds who can just manipulate the market price a couple of times so that the account will be wiped out and signal will collapse.


In my short history I can confirm this for a few signals already. When I join a signal it has not so many followers, then after a few weeks there are hundreds of followers. Then it busts. History repeating.

The ugly truth is you have to figure it out yourself and let nobody join your strategy :-p


It seems to me like you chose the wrong signals to follow, truly.
The best signals are NOT the ones which attract most subscribers, because the 'herd' wants quick gains, high risk and a quick get-rich plan, and it doesn't work like this.
Want a signal which won't get wiped out fast? I advise looking up for my rules of signal searching and following them.
And if you're in doubt, pick signals of accounts which are at least 1 year old.

forex_trader_[565984]
Mar 14 2019 at 08:52
144 件の投稿
OutsideTheBoxHK posted:
Q_FxTrader posted:
It is usually difficult to find reliable signal providers to continue with them in long term. Same is true to become a long term signal provider as well.

Because for someone to become a popular signal provider, he has to make very high % consistent daily return, otherwise, no one will even look into the signals. In order to do that obviously the signal provider has to take high risk in his account.

Next, once it becomes a little popular and number of subscribers become more, it becomes the target of big players like brokers or funds who can just manipulate the market price a couple of times so that the account will be wiped out and signal will collapse.

Many of the subscribers who have been following signals here will agree with me for most of the signals. Only those signals which makes a very low % return may continue for long time, but again the signal provider may not find much subscribers and he might be profitable even more by offering MAM.

In my perspective, the best practice is to start taking control of the signals and it's followers amounts etc once it becomes popular to fully monitor the trades and it's activity so that the trades or trading system will not be misused or manipulated by big players.

Though I was not sure whether to provide signals or offer MAM service, finally I have decided to start as a signal provider first in high risk mode and then, proceed from there. My signals might be available within next few days or weeks.




I have already ventured on this path that you have described above -- over the past 25 months. And I have done all the things you are talking about.
I do not wholly agreed though about brokers/funds targeting a signal once it becomes popular. No intervention or manipulation on their part can have anything to do with open trades of a signal provider. these are straw man arguments. common excuses for poor performance.
Have a look at my systems and you will find what consistency and resilience are all about on this 'risky journey'.


I have to agree that so far you have maintained a overall good trading profile.

However, I am referring here about high risk traders who target high monthly % return like 100%,200% per month and not about low risk traders targeting 5% to 20% per month.

Obviously, it is very difficult to affect the trades of a low risk trader by any large entity or corporation as well, because in order to do that the market has to move hundreds of pips in one side which is usually impossible except for technical glitch or flash crash events etc.

But for a high risk trader where his margin call or max DD is 20 to 40 pips away and who is trading millions of USD using high leverage can be easily affected by a big player and a regular broker or hedge fund can easily do that for sure.

GermanyFX (GermanyFX)
Apr 01 2019 at 08:18
295 件の投稿
I am glad to work with signalsstart since it started. I get my money on time and I am happy my signal is live and ticking on signalstart from last 9 months now with very stable returns.

I request to keep an option to talk with our followers. for better communication.

forex_trader_[565984]
May 12 2019 at 05:53
144 件の投稿
Signalstart is a good option for both intermediate and beginner traders and investors to connect with each other easily.

Because a highly professional trader with long track record will definitely choose a MAM/PAMM option in a forex broker or hedge fund and may not be offering a signal service for various reasons.

Also, an intermediate and not a highly successful trader is still much better than a beginner in forex trading and he has more experience than a completely new trader. So by copying the trades from a partially successful trader is still a better option for a beginner instead of simply gambling with real money by directly trading by himself.

Though signalstart has many limitations, but it can be very useful especially for many beginner traders and investors if they choose the signals carefully.

GermanyFX (GermanyFX)
May 12 2019 at 06:05
295 件の投稿
Very good platform, and all my clients are happy so far.

I would be more happy if they would keep renovating it with new features.

tamirsa
May 15 2019 at 10:31
61 件の投稿
Q_FxTrader posted:
Signalstart is a good option for both intermediate and beginner traders and investors to connect with each other easily.

Because a highly professional trader with long track record will definitely choose a MAM/PAMM option in a forex broker or hedge fund and may not be offering a signal service for various reasons.

Also, an intermediate and not a highly successful trader is still much better than a beginner in forex trading and he has more experience than a completely new trader. So by copying the trades from a partially successful trader is still a better option for a beginner instead of simply gambling with real money by directly trading by himself.

Though signalstart has many limitations, but it can be very useful especially for many beginner traders and investors if they choose the signals carefully.


'Connect with each other easily?'
Wrong - the whole idea behind SignalStart is to prevent contact between signal providers and investors, so they will not be able to communicate and the business will remain purely business.
A signal provider can communicate one-sidedly with his investors by editing the description section on the signal page.

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