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oh right - so i would open an account with ATC not FXCM ?

Hi jezrp,

Yes you open account at ATC Brokers. Hot Spot Retail was liquidity provider for ATC Brokers, and since they moved to FXCM, back to 2009, ATC moved all clients to FXCM, that´s why all OTS Fx clients fill the online application thru FXCM, and hold account there. So ATC is a IB from FXCM, but have their own trading platform, their own software developers, their own tech support, their own account support, their own servers, their own commission structure, their own ECN bridge, and way tighter spreads that are not even possible to get when trading through an FXCM account.

regards,

OTS Fx Team

Oceantrading posted:
     So ATC is a IB from FXCM, but have their own trading platform, their own software developers, their own tech support, their own account support, their own servers, their own commission structure, their own ECN bridge, and way tighter spreads that are not even possible to get when trading through an FXCM account.

regards,

OTS Fx Team

'' and way tighter spreads that are not even possible to get when trading through an FXCM account.''😀.

It is a shame that a lot of traders do not realize this and still use FXCM. We all know that FXCM is the biggest promoter while ATC rarely pays for banner ads. The only thing that I didn't like about ATC is the White Label for FXCM. I spoke with them in Oct 2010 and they mentioned a possibility of another liquidity source. Did this ever happen?

Keep it up OTS - Raise the Bar for Money Managers. I'm glad your company separated from Petrafx

Oceantrading posted:
   we have moved our clients from Alpari to ATC Brokers, and that is completely explained on our website
 
regards,

OTS Fx

How can you use ATC PAMM service since ATC is in the USA?

Are you located outside the USA?

-- Money Managers in the USA are limited to 14 clients with ATC (US Broker) , unless a CTA and registered with the NFA.

From my experience - you need to bargain and FXCM will give you anything you want(incl. tighter spreads and other privileges). Just ask and you'll be given. Their official trading conditions are far from final.

Oceantrading posted:
    

forexma posted:
    Mr MonkeyBars, we're not monkeys. What made you register here and why your single three posts are in this thread? Something tells me you're OTS themselves.

Hi Mr Solar,

We don´t need to do business that way. We do business providing a professional and realistic trading, and best of all, even with this lately problems on the portfolio balance and spike down on equity, our clients are supporting us, because they know the potential and professionalism that OTS Fx do it´s work.

So please we have nothing to hide, there´s no need of such scam schemes to provide fake comments to build a clients portfolio, because after all our results will speak for itself.

regards,

OTS Fx Team

I'm glad to hear that. It just looked like the old cheap trick to me for which I apologize.

As I said,
OTS Rep. is a honest person and as he said, the results will speak for themselves
If there is a DD it will be immediately followed by more wins and this behaviour was also seen (and reproduced by market) early in the first Alpari accounts before the move to ATC/FXCM.
So no worry, this shall be an opportunity to all traders and also for the ones having been scammed 23462489365 times like me need finally some reasonable and more or less safe solution for forex investing without undrealistic performance lies and an excellent live support.

Open Trade History would be a ++ considering investors money is at stake here. Maybe an investor can upload their statistics with open history. There would be no harm in that. Also,

After a quick glance at the trading summary there is averaging down which is perfectly OK as long as draw-down can be contained and a Stopout level is always in play.
              ----------------------------Positive Pip Total vs. Negative Outcome == averaging down

AUDUSD 24 116.7 -858.28 27 234.7 539.50 51 PIPS || 351.4|| LOSS -318.78 -- Here

Some big LOTS were taken Short on EURJPY too. -80.8pips == -$805.99, but I do like the Long Side 412.4pips $481.04

---------------- pips ---- $ LOSS
AUDUSD 24 116.7 -858.28 -- This is the most obvious .

There is NO secret to trading or a special recipe. 😀

Haha that's pretty funny that I sounded like a shill for OTS FX. OTS is based in in Europe. As you can read from his messages here, his English is not perfect but he's very communicative. I'm from Los Angeles. I found out about OTS FX on forexpeacearmy.com. That site is awesome because it has a lot of information about scams. The reason I have no other posts on the entire forum is because I'm not a trader, and just recently invested for the very first time ever. Two friends of mine are traders but I have absolutely no interest in gaining that skill. Hence my investment in a managed fund.

Right now the account is up 1.5% since I bought a month ago. Not very impressive. It has ranged from -9% to +17.5% in that time. Really all over the place. It might be too volatile for me... I'm not really sure whether to stick with my account or switch to one of my friend's which only trades one pair and has been doing very steady growth. Then again -9% and +17.5% averages out to +8% ... bah that doesn't really matter of course.

You guys lets me know if you want me to post some trading history. I think the info I get is pretty low resolution, but at least it will be up to date. Also, be really clear about what statement parameters you want. I am a total newb.

Dont forget, this is a LONG TERM growth you have to focus on, not some really impressive things in your first month ;)

i'd be interested i any stats you have

yeah i agree - i'm looking for an average 5% growth of fund per month ($10,000 investment)

And when you look on ForexPeaceArmy Stats, OTS is the chief ruler there 😄

Um you'll have to give me more of an idea of what kind of data you want. Also, OTS please say something if I am not allowed to post any information about trades, etc.

Thanks for the perspective X5. It's true I could be more focused on mid or long term here. But I have to say that the data on forexpeacearmy.com is following balances instead of growth, which is stupid since it includes deposits into the test account. But it's still a very respectable average growth. Better to view the myfxbook chart.

Including floating profits, the account is up 7.5% since the market opened like 9 hours ago. That erases something like half the losses since from the peak balance a couple weeks ago. I'm gonna hold on to the balloon and see how high it goes... as Danny from
_Withnail & I_ says...

sounds like ots know what they are doing , especially as he has captured most of the loss already !

Hi,

We have provided to Jezrp a detailed statement of our PAMM Account.

MonkeyBars, we can´t forbidden you to show your account statement, because after all i´t s your account, we only have permission to trade on it, nothing else.

Regards,

OTS Fx Team

Thanks for your prompt reply. It has been an interesting experience so far, certainly a bit exciting but also stressful. I suppose that comes with the territory in high-risk investing.

You'll notice all of OTS Fx's marketing materials contain the standard warnings about investment risk, etc. That's yet another factor that made me comfortable with them -- they are up front about the risks involved, despite their ambitious growth goals.

Oceantrading posted:
    The volatility faced on the account was due to a unbalanced created on portfolio relative to changes on pair correlations
regards,

OTS Fx Team

You have an interesting strategy using a basket of pairs for correlation trade. I found these patterns by observing your swap calculations from forex peace army.

EURUSD -sell , USDJPY sell, AUDUSD - sell, EURGBP -sell, === USD strength and EUR weakness + JPY strenght

EURUSD - buy, USDJPY - buy, AUDUSD -sell, EURGBP -sell === Balanced

EURUSD - sell, USDJPY -buy, AUDUSD - sell, EURGBP -sell === USD strength and EUR weakness

EURUSD - sell, USDJPY - sell, AUDUSD - sell, EURGBP - buy === balanced

And your correct swaps are (as of may-21)

EURUSD - buy, USDJPY -buy, USDCHF -sell , AUDUSD - buy == Dollar weakness + Jpy Strength

Are you using a basket of currencies to define the stronger currency and increase your positions on that particular currency?

I see increased position sizing and I was probably mistaken this as martingale, when it could be a method of increasing your positions once a stronger currency has been established.

here is a long discussion on Basket Trading - https://www.forex-tsd.com/suggestions-trading-systems/16466-basket-trading-system-t101-system.html - typically basket trading can include up to 14 pairs .eek.

Hi Will,

First let me clarify that we don´t use any type of martingale neither hedge positions on our systems. We begin developing this system about 8 years ago, that time we trade the s&p500 and nasdaq futures and then we decide apply it to forex.

The concept is very different from the T101 method,and major differences are :
- we have precise entries/exits levels.
- we don´t follow the stronger/weaker currency.
- we use different timeframes (cycles) to manage the behaviour of markets.
- we include volatility and average ratio in our system equation.
- we treat each pair indenpendent, we don´t open / close trades based on basket profit/loss.
- we aim to always have a balanced portfolio, so spikes in equity ( like it happened in the past ) are almost nonexistent.
- we don´t have specific x numbers of pairs on basket. Our system is always calculating the most higher probability to balance the portfolio and enter in the pair according to this.

To resume :

Our entries are not only based on strenght of portfolio 'sectors', but from each component of sector itself, in this case , each pair. We can have till 4 independent cycles working at same time,and each cycle have it´s own volatility and average ratio calculations, this is what makes the systems different, because, they handles both range markets and trend markets.

We try to achieve in our portfolio constantly balance with different timeframes cycles, and different weight ( entry lot ) on what we like to call 'recovery cycles' on different pairs.

I hope this brief explanation help understand your previous questions.

regards,

OTS Fx Team