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Rafael (Rafael)
Dec 10 2020 at 09:13
55 сообщений
togr posted:
vortexz posted:
Why all good traders use bad brokers? I don't get it

Oh common
Good traders of course use good brokers
You mean fake traders use fake brokers.

Nice comparison ) but when I checked reviews for brokers I saw bad reviews for any of them, it's impossible to be good for all traders.

Once we realize that imperfect understanding is the human condition there is no shame in being wrong, only in failing to correct our mistakes.
oportunis
Dec 10 2020 at 09:56
98 сообщений
Rafael posted:
togr posted:
vortexz posted:
Why all good traders use bad brokers? I don't get it

Oh common
Good traders of course use good brokers
You mean fake traders use fake brokers.

Nice comparison ) but when I checked reviews for brokers I saw bad reviews for any of them, it's impossible to be good for all traders.

Yes but the difference is if a broker is regulated you can complain and if they don't solve the problem regulators steps in, while with the unregulated broker you are at the mercy of the broker, and if they are not monitored then they can do anything they like.
It's the same as if you go to a licensed pharmacist and get a verified and tested drug or you can go to the black market and buy a drug with the same name, but the difference might be in the ingredients and one might help you other might have stronger side effects or even hurt you... So why would you go to a broker that has no insurance, no regulator, and worse trading conditions?

We are talking about a strategy that has 40+ pips average TP so it's not broker sensitive and even if it would be there are better brokers that have 0 spread on major pairs, therefore he could trade on bigger and safer brokers. This doesn't mean he can't trade on accent, but as proof he is legit he could open a secondary account on a more reputable broker and show proof there. It's easy to do it he doesn't even have to trade on it he can just connect it to the copier and trade from the master account... And I bet if he would do that he would have gotten 10x more investors...
 

Mathias88
Dec 12 2020 at 08:32
24 сообщений
oportunis posted:

So why would you go to a broker that has no insurance, no regulator, and worse trading conditions?

We are talking about a strategy that has 40+ pips average TP so it's not broker sensitive and even if it would be there are better brokers that have 0 spread on major pairs, therefore he could trade on bigger and safer brokers.
 


you are right at first sentence i mentioned. so why investors would go to there? why they go there and then complain?
vfsc is 'no regulator' you think? let's discuss which regulator is good for you and why? because i think they are all the same, one country or another, what's the difference? its just our personal feeling who do we trust and that's all

if brokers have 0 spread, how they earn? how they can be possibly honest giving 0 spread? paying money for mql license (as you mentioned earlier), paying for everything just to give a platform, website, etc and how this a-book brokers earn?

oportunis
Dec 12 2020 at 09:48
98 сообщений
Mathias88 posted:
oportunis posted:

So why would you go to a broker that has no insurance, no regulator, and worse trading conditions?

We are talking about a strategy that has 40+ pips average TP so it's not broker sensitive and even if it would be there are better brokers that have 0 spread on major pairs, therefore he could trade on bigger and safer brokers.
 


you are right at first sentence i mentioned. so why investors would go to there? why they go there and then complain?
vfsc is 'no regulator' you think? let's discuss which regulator is good for you and why? because i think they are all the same, one country or another, what's the difference? its just our personal feeling who do we trust and that's all

if brokers have 0 spread, how they earn? how they can be possibly honest giving 0 spread? paying money for mql license (as you mentioned earlier), paying for everything just to give a platform, website, etc and how this a-book brokers earn?

Yes, you can trust the UK (FCA), EU (ESMA, FINMA), Australia (ASIC) and USA (CFTC, NFA) those are proper regulators, that you can trust. All the rest are not properly monitored and therefore the broker under such 'regulators' are just on paper, no audit, no visits nothing to protect traders in such jurisdictions.

How does a broker earn if they offer 0 spread? Easily they charge commissions... You can also reduce the cost of commission if you use rebate programs. But just to know brokers pay about 5$ per 1 million and they charge us 5-7$ per 100k, so here is how they get paid... On standard account, the spread is 0.5-2 pips and there is again how they get paid. Brokers always get paid, the difference is if they overcharge and widen the spread in their favor and cheat against you. Hard to prove, but if you trade for a long time you can and you can complain only to proper regulators, they will at least investigate.

 

togr (togr)
Dec 12 2020 at 21:10
4862 сообщений
oportunis posted:
Rafael posted:
togr posted:
vortexz posted:
Why all good traders use bad brokers? I don't get it

Oh common
Good traders of course use good brokers
You mean fake traders use fake brokers.

Nice comparison ) but when I checked reviews for brokers I saw bad reviews for any of them, it's impossible to be good for all traders.

Yes but the difference is if a broker is regulated you can complain and if they don't solve the problem regulators steps in, while with the unregulated broker you are at the mercy of the broker, and if they are not monitored then they can do anything they like.
It's the same as if you go to a licensed pharmacist and get a verified and tested drug or you can go to the black market and buy a drug with the same name, but the difference might be in the ingredients and one might help you other might have stronger side effects or even hurt you... So why would you go to a broker that has no insurance, no regulator, and worse trading conditions?

We are talking about a strategy that has 40+ pips average TP so it's not broker sensitive and even if it would be there are better brokers that have 0 spread on major pairs, therefore he could trade on bigger and safer brokers. This doesn't mean he can't trade on accent, but as proof he is legit he could open a secondary account on a more reputable broker and show proof there. It's easy to do it he doesn't even have to trade on it he can just connect it to the copier and trade from the master account... And I bet if he would do that he would have gotten 10x more investors...
 


We are talking about strategy which has FAKE results
Not replicable to another account nor broker...

Samuelkoi
Dec 14 2020 at 08:01
24 сообщений
Rafael posted:
togr posted:
vortexz posted:
Why all good traders use bad brokers? I don't get it

Oh common
Good traders of course use good brokers
You mean fake traders use fake brokers.

Nice comparison ) but when I checked reviews for brokers I saw bad reviews for any of them, it's impossible to be good for all traders.


The phrase of the day 😉
In the world, there is no 'black' and 'white', there are 50 shades of gray.

Samuelkoi
Dec 14 2020 at 08:26
24 сообщений
MP_89 posted:

everyone has theirown concept of normality dear. if this method of market analysis doesnt suit you it doent mean this method won't suit another trader.
i have question for you. since you said market can change direction in a second after you just have to move away from pc. ok. its really possible. but will market behave differently if you trade manually?? won't it change the direction in a second???
think dear. think well before you answer me.


Oh oh yes, there are different concepts of normality, we see it here now...
We talked about 'learning how to trade by monitoring the ea', is it possible? So, if I have been on the airplane many times, then I am a pilot. Well, welcome aboard, dear friend 😎

Of course, I'm not arguing with the fact that the market can be dangerous even if you follow it all the day and night. After all, even planes sometimes crash and human factors are very important, but they sometimes allow you to make nonstandard decisions that will save the situation. The ea can do that?

MP_89
Dec 14 2020 at 13:00
47 сообщений
Samuelkoi posted:
MP_89 posted:

everyone has theirown concept of normality dear. if this method of market analysis doesnt suit you it doent mean this method won't suit another trader.
i have question for you. since you said market can change direction in a second after you just have to move away from pc. ok. its really possible. but will market behave differently if you trade manually?? won't it change the direction in a second???
think dear. think well before you answer me.


Oh oh yes, there are different concepts of normality, we see it here now...
We talked about 'learning how to trade by monitoring the ea', is it possible? So, if I have been on the airplane many times, then I am a pilot. Well, welcome aboard, dear friend 😎

Of course, I'm not arguing with the fact that the market can be dangerous even if you follow it all the day and night. After all, even planes sometimes crash and human factors are very important, but they sometimes allow you to make nonstandard decisions that will save the situation. The ea can do that?



yes dear a properly configured advisor can prevent some actions, although in a different situation the human factor could have triggered and made a mistake. you don't know how you'll behave in a situation if the market goes against you sharply. maybe you close order right there, or maybe you panic and faint.
ea cannot panic, but ea can close order. 😉
so advantages are obvious as for me.


p.s. funny joke about pilot, i appreciate it, dear 😂😉😉

Samuelkoi
Dec 18 2020 at 11:53
24 сообщений
MP_89 posted:

yes dear a properly configured advisor can prevent some actions, although in a different situation the human factor could have triggered and made a mistake. you don't know how you'll behave in a situation if the market goes against you sharply. maybe you close order right there, or maybe you panic and faint.
ea cannot panic, but ea can close order. 😉
so advantages are obvious as for me.


p.s. funny joke about pilot, i appreciate it, dear 😂😉😉


I agree with you that in a critical situation humans can make mistakes. But actually we said that the EA would be good for beginners, which is absolutely unacceptable.
Moreover, the transition to the ea trading will not allow the trader to develop and even an experienced trader will lose trading skills after some time of using. Also, we said about with the increase in the number of eas, the percentage of losses for traders has not changed, that is, almost all eas are currently unprofitable.

Rafael (Rafael)
Jan 06 at 16:42
55 сообщений
Samuelkoi posted:
Rafael posted:
togr posted:
vortexz posted:
Why all good traders use bad brokers? I don't get it

Oh common
Good traders of course use good brokers
You mean fake traders use fake brokers.

Nice comparison ) but when I checked reviews for brokers I saw bad reviews for any of them, it's impossible to be good for all traders.


The phrase of the day 😉
In the world, there is no 'black' and 'white', there are 50 shades of gray.

Yeah, something like that, definitely :)

Once we realize that imperfect understanding is the human condition there is no shame in being wrong, only in failing to correct our mistakes.
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