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May 02, 2011 at 13:07
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stevewalker
forex_trader_79941
Участник с Jun 06, 2012   1439 комментариев
Jun 17, 2012 at 17:17
forex Hacked hascked. dont use it. it pure martingale without any wise code. it will definetly blow account.
you will have closed trades profit and floating loss which will be bigger then closed profit.

DONT TEST THE TESTED.

not clever.

walker
Участник с Jan 02, 2011   142 комментариев
Jun 17, 2012 at 17:20
Oh yeah? Well I run forexhacked and pull my profit daily and have already made all my investment back so now the money being traded is pure profit. If the account blows, I lose on some of the profits.
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Jayman007/sig-cent-martin/195905
use it or don't it's completely up to you. But don't let someone tell you not to test the tested. That is just silly.
stevewalker
forex_trader_79941
Участник с Jun 06, 2012   1439 комментариев
Jun 17, 2012 at 17:25
trader can be lucky with one start and can get back initial deposit also profit with those kind of systems.
but next time loose all.

without fixed stoıp loss with reasonable RR ratio any system will surely fail.



Участник с Aug 07, 2011   78 комментариев
Jun 18, 2012 at 05:34
from time to time these guys come around the corner and we hear these wise speeches:

'oooh oooh. it's a martingale! it will faaail! it is dooooomed! (deep weird voice). let me take a look in my crystal ball: oooooh not today, not tomorrow, maybe not in 1 or 2 years, but some day.... it will faaaaaaiiiil!'

funny. but thanks for these wise advice. nobody here knew this before.

after a look in my crystal ball, i can tell you: in the winter.. my friends... in the winter...... it's getting COLD!
stevewalker
forex_trader_79941
Участник с Jun 06, 2012   1439 комментариев
Jun 18, 2012 at 07:47
Have you ever BT ed that EA?
if yes can you please share the results.



   snowy posted:
   from time to time these guys come around the corner and we hear these wise speeches:

'oooh oooh. it's a martingale! it will faaail! it is dooooomed! (deep weird voice). let me take a look in my crystal ball: oooooh not today, not tomorrow, maybe not in 1 or 2 years, but some day.... it will faaaaaaiiiil!'

funny. but thanks for these wise advice. nobody here knew this before.

after a look in my crystal ball, i can tell you: in the winter.. my friends... in the winter...... it's getting COLD!
Участник с Jan 02, 2011   142 комментариев
Jun 18, 2012 at 07:49
I have shared my fwd testing results from a live account. I don't believe in BT. To each his own. You won't be convincing me to stop using it. I am fully aware of the risks involved with trading. Now move on mate....
Участник с Aug 07, 2011   78 комментариев
Jun 18, 2012 at 07:54 (отредактировано Jun 18, 2012 at 07:55)
yes, as mentioned before. and as i wrote before here in this topic: cable is too dangerous, so i tested FH on different pairs and for me audnzd is the safest (smallest floating drawdowns). so i trade this thing live on audnzd since one month now.

my backtests:

rick's settings on cable with 0.02 lot:
https://bt.hmja.de/forexhacked_gom_20090501-20120430_smereka-settings_0.02lot.htm

slightly different settings on audnzd with 0.02 lot:
https://bt.hmja.de/forexhacked_gom_AUDNZD_20090501-20120430_maxtrades11_0.02lot.htm
Участник с Aug 07, 2011   78 комментариев
Jun 18, 2012 at 08:03

   Jayman007 posted:
  ... I don't believe in BT. ...

i also wasn't sure about BT results before. but i tested FH on cable with rick's settings from the starting date of his alpari demo until the day when he increased the lotsize (because i cannot change the lotsize during the running backtest) and the result was almost the same as in his demo / forward test. this tells me that the backtest cannot be so wrong.
and for discovering the maximum drawdowns over the last years and adjust settings, backtests are good enough.

i also did this with different other EA's, which i have running on demo accounts. just started the backtests with the same settings and from the same starting date as the forward demo. the bt results were mostly very accurate, 1:1 as the demos. for scalpers these backtests may be useless, but for an EA like FH the results are a good information.

of course: my backtests were done with historical tickdata ('99%'), not with the poor data, the broker provides.

greets
stevewalker
forex_trader_79941
Участник с Jun 06, 2012   1439 комментариев
Jun 18, 2012 at 08:05
BT should work at least 10 years. at least!

I am not trying to stop any trader using FH.

good luck all.



   snowy posted:
   yes, as mentioned before. and as i wrote before here in this topic: cable is too dangerous, so i tested FH on different pairs and for me audnzd is the safest (smallest floating drawdowns). so i trade this thing live on audnzd since one month now.

my backtests:

rick's settings on cable with 0.02 lot:
https://bt.hmja.de/forexhacked_gom_20090501-20120430_smereka-settings_0.02lot.htm

slightly different settings on audnzd with 0.02 lot:
https://bt.hmja.de/forexhacked_gom_AUDNZD_20090501-20120430_maxtrades11_0.02lot.htm

Участник с Aug 07, 2011   78 комментариев
Jun 18, 2012 at 08:08

   stevewalker posted:
   BT should work at least 10 years. at least!

do you have a source for historical tickdata over the last 10 years? a source where the download is working! if yes, please share, then i will do the bt's again.
Участник с Jan 08, 2012   4 комментариев
Jun 19, 2012 at 16:47

   snowy posted:
   yes, as mentioned before. and as i wrote before here in this topic: cable is too dangerous, so i tested FH on different pairs and for me audnzd is the safest (smallest floating drawdowns). so i trade this thing live on audnzd since one month now.

my backtests:

rick's settings on cable with 0.02 lot:
https://bt.hmja.de/forexhacked_gom_20090501-20120430_smereka-settings_0.02lot.htm

slightly different settings on audnzd with 0.02 lot:
https://bt.hmja.de/forexhacked_gom_AUDNZD_20090501-20120430_maxtrades11_0.02lot.htm



Hi Snowy,

After reading what you say about AUDNZD being the safest pair for FXH I set it up on a demo account, to run it alongside my GBPUSD. So far not a single trade has been executed. I thought this a bit odd as my other pair has traded plenty of times today. I went back to FXH set-up guide to make sure I hadn't forgotten something, and that's when I found out that AUDNZD isn't amongst the pairs listed for FXH to trade on.
Do you need to do anything special or use different settings to get it to work?
Would love to hear back.
Regards
Mike7P
I always get there in the end!
Участник с Aug 07, 2011   78 комментариев
Jun 19, 2012 at 22:25
hi mike,

no, i didn't do anything special. please look at my backtest report, at the top you find the settings i used for audnzd. with these settings i have a demo running and also i trade this live (both gomarkets), everything fine.

by the way:
today 4 weeks are past since starting my live account with 6k €. beside FH i trade some other EA and from time to time manually. today's balance: 8.387€, FH made 613€. this is around 55% of what rick's demo on cable made in the first month, but for me ok. i don't know exactly the highest floating dd in audnzd, because of other open trades from different ea's but i think it was something about -200€. when i do a custom analysis in myfxbook only for the magic of the FH, myfxbook shows a dd of 2,17%.
Laurent
forex_trader_20019
Участник с Oct 08, 2010   2 комментариев
Jun 20, 2012 at 07:44
In this case, backtests via MT4 is non-sense.

You work with a static moneymanagement. For a meaningful backtest you have to adapt the start lot. As Rick do in a Live-Demo. (every 5k + 0,01).

To result from this case, you also see that you never be sure, if you start in a drawdown phase. As we see in the backtest, you must have, by working with a static lot size, at least 50k to survival the dd.

What i would do is: If you start Forex Hacked by adapting the MM, pray that you don't fall in a high dd. If you reach the point, where you survive the highest dd with the min. static lot (therefor a backtest is good) turn back and adapt the MM like in the backtest.
Участник с Aug 07, 2011   78 комментариев
Jun 20, 2012 at 09:38 (отредактировано Jun 20, 2012 at 09:39)

   Laurent posted:
   In this case, backtests via MT4 is non-sense.
You work with a static moneymanagement. For a meaningful backtest you have to adapt the start lot. As Rick do in a Live-Demo. (every 5k + 0,01).

that's why i did several backtests with different lotsizes -> https://bt.hmja.de/ <- to find the max dd for each lotsize in the past 3 years. so i know for every lotsizie the balance i need.

my conclusion: on audnzd i need for every increase of 0.01 an amount of ~ 3k €.

why?:
0.02 lot - max dd: 4.325€ (required balance: 6k€, to be safe)
   -> https://bt.hmja.de/forexhacked_gom_AUDNZD_20090501-20120430_maxtrades11_0.02lot.htm
0.03 lot - max dd: 6.587€ (required balance: 9k€, to be safe)
   -> https://bt.hmja.de/forexhacked_gom_AUDNZD_20090501-20120430_maxtrades11_0.03lot.htm
...
0.05 lot - max dd: 10.883€ (required balance: 15k€, to be safe)
   -> https://bt.hmja.de/forexhacked_gom_AUDNZD_20090501-20120430_maxtrades11_0.05lot_14k.htm
...
0.10 lot - max dd: 21.928€ (required balance: 30k€, to be safe)
   -> https://bt.hmja.de/forexhacked_gom_AUDNZD_20090501-20120430_maxtrades11_0.1lot.htm
and so on...

so i increase the lotsize by 0.01 every 3k€, my account is growing.

if i made some mistake in my thinking, then please let me know.

and now compare this to cable:
0.01 lot - max dd in the past 3 years: 19.274€ (required balance: 25k€, to be safe)
   -> https://bt.hmja.de/forexhacked_gom_20090501-20120430_smereka-settings.htm

so for a lotsize of only 0.01 i need a balance of ~25k to survive the highest dd over the last 3 years. what the fuck?!


   Laurent posted:
To result from this case, you also see that you never be sure, if you start in a drawdown phase. As we see in the backtest, you must have, by working with a static lot size, at least 50k to survival the dd.

relating to cable: yes. that's why i don't use it.
Участник с Jan 08, 2012   4 комментариев
Jun 20, 2012 at 11:22

   snowy posted:
   hi mike,

no, i didn't do anything special. please look at my backtest report, at the top you find the settings i used for audnzd. with these settings i have a demo running and also i trade this live (both gomarkets), everything fine.

by the way:
today 4 weeks are past since starting my live account with 6k €. beside FH i trade some other EA and from time to time manually. today's balance: 8.387€, FH made 613€. this is around 55% of what rick's demo on cable made in the first month, but for me ok. i don't know exactly the highest floating dd in audnzd, because of other open trades from different ea's but i think it was something about -200€. when i do a custom analysis in myfxbook only for the magic of the FH, myfxbook shows a dd of 2,17%.

Thanks for your informative reply Snowy,

When I set it up on the AUDNZD I used the settings from your report. That was 2 days ago now, and even though I've got the Smiley face and a connection with my broker which is Alpari UK there is no sign at all of any trades which seems odd for FXH.

The Leverage wouldn't affect it would it? I'm currently set at 50 for this demo.
I'll leave it 'till the end of the week and if there's still no trades I'll try another Broker.
Thanks again.
Regards
Mike
I always get there in the end!
Участник с Aug 07, 2011   78 комментариев
Jun 20, 2012 at 11:30
to be sure, attached you find my live setfile, which i use right now on my account.

the only difference i see is your broker and leverage. i use gomarkets with 400:1, you have alpari with 50:1. i will try this setup on an alpari demo with 50:1. let's see if this works.


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Участник с Aug 07, 2011   78 комментариев
Jun 20, 2012 at 11:54
as u can see in the attached screenshot, it's working with alpari uk. i started the ea and the same second a trade was open.

but regarding alpari: i wouldn't recommend to use alpari for audnzd, because for pending orders, tp and sl on this pair alpari dictates a distance of at least 12 pips from the current market price. so the 'AllowTrending' setting would not work with a value of '5' for trendPips and trendStoploss. with gomarkets the distance has to be at least 3 pips. much better.


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Участник с Jan 08, 2012   4 комментариев
Jun 20, 2012 at 12:20

   snowy posted:
   to be sure, attached you find my live setfile, which i use right now on my account.

the only difference i see is your broker and leverage. i use gomarkets with 400:1, you have alpari with 50:1. i will try this setup on an alpari demo with 50:1. let's see if this works.



Hi Snowy,
Thanks for the set file. I've just loaded it and immediately it opened a AUDNZD trade. Very odd because all the settings i already had entered matched yours, but now at least I know it works, so I will run the demo for a few weeks now.

Thanks again for your help.
Regards
Mike
I always get there in the end!
Участник с Jan 03, 2012   33 комментариев
Jun 25, 2012 at 20:13
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