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yumpio

Členom od Oct 13, 2016  25 príspevkov yumpio Jan 02 2017 at 15:26
owenn posted:
@CrazyTrader Wow, you're really good at martingale. Not in vain this way of trading has maintained its fame until now.



It's because he has discovered the exact point of the strategy :) that's great! Good example of using Martingala and winning!

CrazyTrader

Členom od Nov 21, 2011  1706 príspevkov CrazyTrader (CrazyTrader) Jan 02 2017 at 15:37
FxMasterGuru posted:
@CrazyTrader

It might work out for a while, but what happens when the leverage does not allow opening an even larger Martingale position to continue with the trading plan?


The final point ins't to open positions until infinite ...But start to make profit from Order 2, 3 or 4... up to you.

FxMasterGuru posted:
Anyway, I will be curiously watching how this $50 deposit account will grow over the next months...


Not sure I will be using it everyday from now... I did to illustrate.

FxMasterGuru posted:
P.S. I made similar back-and-forth-back-and-forth type Martingale EAs, but they all failed in backtests mainly because of consuming all available maximum leverage before they could close the basket in profit. With large enough accounts these EAs were OK, but - with such large deposits - the profit % did not justify the risk (i.e. theoretically losing all).


Fair enough

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stian

Členom od Nov 14, 2015  308 príspevkov stian Jan 02 2017 at 19:00
You can set a cut so you don't open trades till infinity. Say you open 6 trades and double each, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 = 63 lots. Think of this as a single 63 lot position. And you can do some risk management accordingly. That way, it is no worse than trading with just one.

togr

Členom od Feb 22, 2011  3854 príspevkov vontogr (togr) Jan 02 2017 at 19:05
Guys,

the very principle of martingale is it is working for couple of first trades - like the 3 trades on @CrazyTrader account.
At the higher level positions are liquidated due to margin call and whole account wiped - as you can see on @CrazyTrader profile.
Hold on, it was deleted. Well I have backup thought :)
Prílohy:

I like what I trade, I trade what I like
CrazyTrader

Členom od Nov 21, 2011  1706 príspevkov CrazyTrader (CrazyTrader) Jan 02 2017 at 20:43
As always, you don't miss out the opportunity to be a wanker.

I thought for 2017 you would have grown up a bit... I see, it won't be this year... Shame on you.

There is a big difference between deleted and private.



You think you are unbeatable on forex?
From your profile:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/togr/variant-4-real/1828615
Are you still that proud of this system?

Grow up a bit... little child, if you knew something about Forex you would know that even the best trader in the world have started by blowing accounts... So what the point of your previous post?
I told you already... try not to be that useless, as you care so much about your credibility.



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FxMasterGuru

Členom od May 04, 2012  1598 príspevkov FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru) Jan 03 2017 at 07:23
@CrazyTrader

The previously illustrated winning scenario with 1st trade Sell, then 2nd trade Buy was clear. Thanks for the explanation.

But what would have been the plan if the price had moved against the #1 sell trade pushing it into loss immediately...?

Please click "Vouch" if you liked my post. If not, just put me on your Blocked list. :o)
CrazyTrader

Členom od Nov 21, 2011  1706 príspevkov CrazyTrader (CrazyTrader) Jan 03 2017 at 07:53 (upravené Jan 03 2017 at 08:02 )
FxMasterGuru posted:
@CrazyTrader

The previously illustrated winning scenario with 1st trade Sell, then 2nd trade Buy was clear. Thanks for the explanation.

But what would have been the plan if the price had moved against the #1 sell trade pushing it into loss immediately...?


This happen 50% of the time.
You take your loss, 10, 20 30 pips max.
You concentrate again... waiting for good potential entry/signal and you restart from Order 1

Have a look at history tab, you will notice that 3 trades haven't trigerred the martingale... because I missed the reveral area. (Order 2) on UsdCad, AudUsd & UsdChf.
And I lost 1 trade on EurUsd (-14 pips)




Let's filter on EurUsd only.
Imagine I lose On first Order, 3 times in row before I can realize martingale up to 3 trades.
I would I lost 3*(€-9.9) So around €-30
=> See how order 3 recover all failed on first order: +19 pips = +€49

Compare this to classical martingale... every time you lose on first trade you increase risk * 2... and whatever happen, you will never create a riskless trading zone.


You guys should open a demo account and try it 10 times... and see yourself.
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togr

Členom od Feb 22, 2011  3854 príspevkov vontogr (togr) Jan 03 2017 at 08:33
CrazyTrader posted:
As always, you don't miss out the opportunity to be a wanker.

I thought for 2017 you would have grown up a bit... I see, it won't be this year... Shame on you.

There is a big difference between deleted and private.



You think you are unbeatable on forex?
From your profile:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/togr/variant-4-real/1828615
Are you still that proud of this system?

Grow up a bit... little child, if you knew something about Forex you would know that even the best trader in the world have started by blowing accounts... So what the point of your previous post?
I told you already... try not to be that useless, as you care so much about your credibility.





@CrazyTrader
My point is very simple,

you stated you have zero risk martingale.

You dont. If you had you were already successful trader or even millinare, you are not.

Such thing like zero risk martingale does not exist. Trying to bullshi* people like you try is very poor.

I like what I trade, I trade what I like
FxMasterGuru

Členom od May 04, 2012  1598 príspevkov FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru) Jan 03 2017 at 09:30
@CrazyTrader

How much is the success of this concept dependent on the mentioned ''waiting for good potential entry/signal''?

Why not making an EA for this strategy and running a long-term backtest to prove the hypothesis?

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CrazyTrader

Členom od Nov 21, 2011  1706 príspevkov CrazyTrader (CrazyTrader) Jan 03 2017 at 09:36 (upravené Jan 03 2017 at 09:39 )
togr posted:

@CrazyTrader
My point is very simple,

you stated you have zero risk martingale.

You dont. If you had you were already successful trader or even millinare, you are not.

Such thing like zero risk martingale does not exist. Trying to bullshi* people like you try is very poor.



                        *** This is official ***
=> It's the last time I respond to you. You are useless in every single sentence you write.

I stated from Order 1, you use it as buffer/sacrifice, then the martingale up and down creates a riskless trading area while you can double each lotsize from following trades.
=> Apparently, you are the only one not to understand it. (read comments from other users... they all got it) Are you that stupid? or too frustrated from past comments I wrote about you to admit it.

Did I say you can become millionaire with this martingale?
=> I said the theory is simple but the practise is much harder for 2 reasons:
- If you open Order N+1 at the wrong time, or if you are too greedy, the martingale will end up with no profit but zero loss.
Let's say I opened Long Order 4 with 0.56.
It would be:
Order 3: €+100
Order 4: €-100

Why I don't use it personnaly since the last 3 years... it's because it is very hard to use as you have to pick up the bottom and top at the right time... which is almost impossible as nobody can't guess where this happen.

Now, I'm not successfull?
- Get this challenge: Open a thread whenever you want, and explain your strategy and trade with it for 3 months by posting real time every single trade you take:
Let's see if you are profitable:
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=593831
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/CrazyTrader/sentiment-traders-mt4-indi-3/1334894

- Or you can simply refer to the first page of this thread...
Beleive the power of the trend on UsdJpy... market is still above 200 pips from initial target.


Why people want me to trade for them while I'm not looking to manage money from others?
mail sent 9 hours ago.



Anyway... I'm done with you! ^^
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