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is it possible to turn $100 to $1000 in 4 weeks ? (real account)
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BluePanther

从……加入成为会员 Jan 25, 2010  942个发言 Matt (BluePanther) Dec 17 2014 at 01:44
Cholipop posted:
 So in this rangy market has anyone been able to profit 30% profit today?


Yes, but only on demo. Testing EAs only.


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BluePanther

从……加入成为会员 Jan 25, 2010  942个发言 Matt (BluePanther) Dec 17 2014 at 01:47
togr posted:
@alexforex007
If you know when to enter and exit the trades as manual trader
then you can program EA that will do the same and execute the system better than you.
If you dont have such rules you should not trade even manually


alexforex007 posted:
There is a possibility of making very nice returns, but a lot of discipline and patience must be applied.


No one can beat a computer for discipline and patience!

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BluePanther

从……加入成为会员 Jan 25, 2010  942个发言 Matt (BluePanther) Dec 17 2014 at 01:54 (最后编辑时间Dec 17 2014 at 01:57 )
togr posted:
BoneTrader posted:
@togr still I doubt that marketmakers use an EAs for trading. That outbalances all the trades that EAs execute at the moment.

@BoneTrader
An automated trading system (ATS) is a computer trading program that automatically submits trades to an exchange. Automated trading systems are often used with other forms of electronic trading, such as electronic communication network, 'dark pools' and algorithmic trading.[1] As of the year 2010 more than 70% of the stock shares traded on the NYSE and NASDAQ are generated from automated trading systems.[citation needed] They are designed to trade stocks, futures and forex based on a predefined set of rules which determine when to enter a trade, when to exit it and how much to invest in it.Trading strategies come in many different shapes and sizes, some preferring to pick market tops and bottoms, others coded to ride the daily trend, and everything in between. [2]

Algorithmic trading may be used in any investment strategy, including market making, inter-market spreading, arbitrage, or pure speculation (including trend following). The investment decision and implementation may be augmented at any stage with algorithmic support or may operate completely automatically. One of the main issues regarding HFT is the difficulty in determining how profitable it is. A report released in August 2009 by the TABB Group, a financial services industry research firm, estimated that the 300 securities firms and hedge funds that specialize in this type of trading took in a maximum of US$21 billion in profits in 2008,[6] which the authors called 'relatively small' and 'surprisingly modest' when compared to the market's overall trading volume. In March 2014, Virtu Financial, a high-frequency trading firm, reported that during five years it made profit 1,277 out of 1,278 days, losing money just one day.[7]



@togr : Yes, good definition (albeit direct from Wikipedia!). I totally agree - still surprising how many people underestimate the (real) potential of algorithmic (automated) trading. But then, I guess we are in a forum... and only certain people hang out in a forum (the 90% of losing traders). 'It is impossible to soar like an eagle when you hang out with chickens.' My question is: where do the 'eagles' hang out? wink

Despite the very real and evidenced potential of computers for executing trades automatically, I seriously do not think MQL5 are smart enough to do something like Big Brother (heck, MQL5 keep messing things up - can they do anything right?)

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Cholipop

从……加入成为会员 Aug 07, 2014  406个发言 Cholipop Dec 17 2014 at 04:41
BluePanther posted:
togr posted:
BoneTrader posted:
@togr still I doubt that marketmakers use an EAs for trading. That outbalances all the trades that EAs execute at the moment.

@BoneTrader
An automated trading system (ATS) is a computer trading program that automatically submits trades to an exchange. Automated trading systems are often used with other forms of electronic trading, such as electronic communication network, 'dark pools' and algorithmic trading.[1] As of the year 2010 more than 70% of the stock shares traded on the NYSE and NASDAQ are generated from automated trading systems.[citation needed] They are designed to trade stocks, futures and forex based on a predefined set of rules which determine when to enter a trade, when to exit it and how much to invest in it.Trading strategies come in many different shapes and sizes, some preferring to pick market tops and bottoms, others coded to ride the daily trend, and everything in between. [2]

Algorithmic trading may be used in any investment strategy, including market making, inter-market spreading, arbitrage, or pure speculation (including trend following). The investment decision and implementation may be augmented at any stage with algorithmic support or may operate completely automatically. One of the main issues regarding HFT is the difficulty in determining how profitable it is. A report released in August 2009 by the TABB Group, a financial services industry research firm, estimated that the 300 securities firms and hedge funds that specialize in this type of trading took in a maximum of US$21 billion in profits in 2008,[6] which the authors called 'relatively small' and 'surprisingly modest' when compared to the market's overall trading volume. In March 2014, Virtu Financial, a high-frequency trading firm, reported that during five years it made profit 1,277 out of 1,278 days, losing money just one day.[7]



@togr : Yes, good definition (albeit direct from Wikipedia!). I totally agree - still surprising how many people underestimate the (real) potential of algorithmic (automated) trading. But then, I guess we are in a forum... and only certain people hang out in a forum (the 90% of losing traders). 'It is impossible to soar like an eagle when you hang out with chickens.' My question is: where do the 'eagles' hang out? wink

Despite the very real and evidenced potential of computers for executing trades automatically, I seriously do not think MQL5 are smart enough to do something like Big Brother (heck, MQL5 keep messing things up - can they do anything right?)



 Excellent point about eagles and chickens. The reality is the internet (especially sites like these) are filled with mostly untalented traders. If in reality we had some serious talent here, then we would have someone who can keep his or her drawdown% and Pip - drawdown DOWN, and keep the profits coming in, how ever much profit it is.
  Yet, we want to feel as if we can predict the future and we say things like the market is over bought or under sold, and look to take positions that way, when the reality is the market doesn't move based on over or under anything. If simply looked at th market for what it is 'supply and demand' then trading would be so much easier.
   Think about the very first minute of forex being public..... How did the price shift either upward or downward, if there were no HIgher TF to come by? In forex if you believe the chicken came before the egg or visa versa will determine your perception of how the market works, your perception of the market will determine your bias, and your bias will determine how quickly you margin call.
    So until you so called GURUS stop margin calling accounts, and stop having 300+ pip draw down, then your simply taking educated guesses, instead of rational ones. Stick to the damm script, and learn how to read the lower tf. Lower TF's create what you see on the higher TF. We think fundamentals run the market, when all it does is create bias. Simply ask the people who have been buying UJ the last week, and buying everytime it goes up. Oh won't their Christmas holiday be much brighter if they were not in red over 500 pips.

Why guess, when you can react to what is in front of you.
BluePanther

从……加入成为会员 Jan 25, 2010  942个发言 Matt (BluePanther) Dec 17 2014 at 04:52 (最后编辑时间Dec 17 2014 at 04:55 )
Cholipop posted:
    So until you so called GURUS stop margin calling accounts, and stop having 300+ pip draw down, then your simply taking educated guesses, instead of rational ones. Stick to the damm script, and learn how to read the lower tf. Lower TF's create what you see on the higher TF. We think fundamentals run the market, when all it does is create bias. Simply ask the people who have been buying UJ the last week, and buying everytime it goes up. Oh won't their Christmas holiday be much brighter if they were not in red over 500 pips.


Haha! You just reminded me of 'A1 Superman' signal on MQL... 'Just buy the UJ, it'll keep going up!' Boy is he wrong (for now)... wink But you are right - that is almost 'uncharted' territory for the UJ (you have to go back to 2006 for these prices).

Price action is definitely important, but one cannot discard historical price levels (SR), because previously the market viewed those levels as 'fair price' and this facilitated commerce efficiently (as indicated by the volume in those price areas). Though that said, as time goes on each SR can become 'obsolete' as the market finds new SR levels which facilitate commerce more efficiently. I'm thinking of the ebook 'Secrets of a Pivot Master'. But you can see prices are attracted to those levels even after extended periods of time!

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BluePanther

从……加入成为会员 Jan 25, 2010  942个发言 Matt (BluePanther) Dec 17 2014 at 07:59
You don't need 4 weeks to turn $100 into $1000... at 250% per day you can achieve this in less than a week! wink

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/BostonRain/autotrading-ea-system-test/1051188


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BluePanther

从……加入成为会员 Jan 25, 2010  942个发言 Matt (BluePanther) Dec 17 2014 at 08:04 (最后编辑时间Dec 17 2014 at 08:07 )
...but I'm not sure if your broker would 'approve' of such returns.

Even 35% a day may be too much for some brokers!

Notice this is a real account by the same guy with the same broker, and he has named it 'Quiet Invest' - probably hoping to stay 'under the radar' with the broker. The one day of history perhaps indicates that his efforts were in vain and the broker shut him down - again!

It is a sin to win against a broker! yell

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/BostonRain/quiet-invest/1060569


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BoneTrader

从……加入成为会员 Oct 27, 2012  35个发言 BoneTrader Dec 17 2014 at 09:40
100USD with 1:500 leverage = 50000USD, EUR/USD @1.25 = ~40000EUR = 0.4 lot, if you manage to catch 100pips movement it is equal to 4000USD profit :) but just 1-1.5 pips against your position and considering spread - it will blow your starting deposit in a moment.

¡ŋ ђθς ş¡ģŋθ ұ¡ŋςəş /
BluePanther

从……加入成为会员 Jan 25, 2010  942个发言 Matt (BluePanther) Dec 17 2014 at 09:57 (最后编辑时间Dec 17 2014 at 09:59 )
BoneTrader posted:
100USD with 1:500 leverage = 50000USD, EUR/USD @1.25 = ~40000EUR = 0.4 lot, if you manage to catch 100pips movement it is equal to 4000USD profit :) but just 1-1.5 pips against your position and considering spread - it will blow your starting deposit in a moment.


'Don't put all your eggs in one basket': you should spread your risk among many trades, not just one trade. wink

But thank you for your accurate risk analysis. Newbies take note: calculate your risk when trading! cool

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netzarada

从……加入成为会员 Dec 13, 2012  35个发言 netzarada Dec 17 2014 at 12:04
there is no serius profit with ea.... banks pay real traders not super EAa

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