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Looking for managers - large accounts

Apr 05, 2011 at 04:10
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会员从Apr 14, 2011开始   4帖子
Apr 22, 2011 at 03:05
Hi, please check my page
https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/forex-account-manager/102261
I am building up my system, it's early day, the performance is not so good at this moment, please keep tracking it, the result could be stunning tomorrow😇
会员从Mar 13, 2010开始   18帖子
Apr 25, 2011 at 10:54 (已编辑 Apr 25, 2011 at 10:56)
Hello All,

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会员从Apr 17, 2010开始   23帖子
Apr 25, 2011 at 22:37
This is my real account to demonstrate my strategy which i use at managed accounts. History available from 2010.06
Please read account discussion for more info

<a href='https://www.myfxbook.com/members/baraban/alpari-uk-classic/90491'><img border='0' src=''/></a>

P.S. sorry for doubling the message, the previous one, didnt get widget right...
Don't risk more then 2% with one trade!
会员从Apr 26, 2011开始   16帖子
Apr 26, 2011 at 08:55
jchen..please check PM...i am trusted trader...
会员从Apr 26, 2011开始   16帖子
Apr 26, 2011 at 12:37
i will give my link later. 😀
会员从Apr 26, 2011开始   16帖子
Apr 26, 2011 at 12:41
会员从Feb 10, 2011开始   3帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 06:57
sell forex trading strategy, already proved profit
https://www.myfxbook.com/portfolio/onlinemoney33blogspot/84673
会员从Apr 07, 2011开始   28帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 09:21

speki posted:
    The deal was, <b>we split profits, AND we split losses too</b>. Honestly, if I give a so-called money manager my money, and he trades me profits, I'll gladly remunerate his efforts. But if he loses my money, it's evident that he takes responsibility and pays with his own money. It's ridiculous when those money managers promise 'oh, you don't have to pay if there are no profits' - yeah, dickface? And if you lose my money? You will pay. Split the profits, split the losses too.

not a bad idea. Would be interesting to see how many of self-called managers here would accept such conditions😈
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会员从Jan 14, 2010开始   2299帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 09:36
In this case all investors would be keeping their funds under their mattress.
Not a very good idea. it can be extended to everything.
It should not be ignored that managers are not being paid any salary but get paid from what they earn.

TotalRecall posted:
    
speki posted:
    The deal was, <b>we split profits, AND we split losses too</b>. Honestly, if I give a so-called money manager my money, and he trades me profits, I'll gladly remunerate his efforts. But if he loses my money, it's evident that he takes responsibility and pays with his own money. It's ridiculous when those money managers promise 'oh, you don't have to pay if there are no profits' - yeah, dickface? And if you lose my money? You will pay. Split the profits, split the losses too.

not a bad idea. Would be interesting to see how many of self-called managers here would accept such conditions😈
会员从Jan 14, 2010开始   2299帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 09:39
simply manager should have good trading histiry and be consistent with good risk control.
会员从Nov 18, 2009开始   735帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 10:43
That could be a problem - someone without a reliable income even during their losing streaks, will take unnecessary risks and eventually join the account blower's club. Of course performance should be rewarded but you can't expect every month to be a winner. In fact it's quite unusual if a manager does not have at least one flat month a year, not saying it must be negative ...

Chikot posted:
It should not be ignored that managers are not being paid any salary but get paid from what they earn.
Surround yourself with people whose eyes light up when they see you and who have no agenda for your reform.
会员从Jan 14, 2010开始   2299帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 13:55
This is the reason until trader has income from trading he needs to have some supporting income and also support form his family won't hurt.
会员从Jan 14, 2010开始   2299帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 13:59
This is why reasonable returns must be favored. when investor understands risk/ reward and is not looking for 50-100% monthly but say for 3-6% monthly I doubt there will be blow up danger. also, cut off draw down level must be decided before trader starts trading. 10-20% of the starting balance for example.
GrusCapital
forex_trader_35080
会员从Apr 27, 2011开始   17帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 17:18
I agree your comments, Chikot. Just one note, setting a 10-20% limit of loss for an overall trading scheme seems very tight to me. Let me explain:

A loss of 20% is easily reached in the 'normal' stock exchange markets with 'low' risk products (i.e. shares). If you wish to invest in leveraged forex, you have to take proportionaly more risk.

I am 100% in favour of such a limit you talked about, but a little higher (let's say, up to 40%). Nevertheless, in my own opinion, a manager who lose 40% of an account in less than a year, is not worth it, or is a newcomer trying to make easy money.

Kind regards!
会员从Apr 17, 2010开始   23帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 19:45
Talking about risk, sometimes trading shares becomes more risky, than leveraged instrument as forex. With trading shares (not CFD) you could face a liquidity problem, and there are limited possibilities with setting StopLoss. Lots of funds faced with it in 2008. Some times you need to use leverage, not because you want to take more risk, but you just dont have choice. For example i want to open order with 25 pips SL. My balance is 25k, and my MM rule is to risk no more than 1%. So i will open 1 lot size order. In that case i will be using leverage (~1:4), but it's less risk if we compare it with buying shares, as they could fall more than 15% per day, without possibility to set StopLoss. So the risks are very similar with 'low' risk products. Everything are depends on MM that manager uses.
I think that if annual ROI ~100%, the max DD of 25-30% are affordable.
Don't risk more then 2% with one trade!
会员从Jan 14, 2010开始   2299帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 21:21
Grus, I understand your point but i think it is about consistency. It is not easy to trade back 20% DD , I would not even go into how hard it is to trade back 40% DD. i think we should never get into this situation hence practice practice and again practice.

GrusCapital posted:
    I agree your comments, Chikot. Just one note, setting a 10-20% limit of loss for an overall trading scheme seems very tight to me. Let me explain:

A loss of 20% is easily reached in the 'normal' stock exchange markets with 'low' risk products (i.e. shares). If you wish to invest in leveraged forex, you have to take proportionaly more risk.

I am 100% in favour of such a limit you talked about, but a little higher (let's say, up to 40%). Nevertheless, in my own opinion, a manager who lose 40% of an account in less than a year, is not worth it, or is a newcomer trying to make easy money.

Kind regards!
会员从Jan 14, 2010开始   2299帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 21:22
Yes, I think it depends upon historical performance.


baraban posted:
    Talking about risk, sometimes trading shares becomes more risky, than leveraged instrument as forex. With trading shares (not CFD) you could face a liquidity problem, and there are limited possibilities with setting StopLoss. Lots of funds faced with it in 2008. Some times you need to use leverage, not because you want to take more risk, but you just dont have choice. For example i want to open order with 25 pips SL. My balance is 25k, and my MM rule is to risk no more than 1%. So i will open 1 lot size order. In that case i will be using leverage (~1:4), but it's less risk if we compare it with buying shares, as they could fall more than 15% per day, without possibility to set StopLoss. So the risks are very similar with 'low' risk products. Everything are depends on MM that manager uses.
I think that if annual ROI ~100%, the max DD of 25-30% are affordable.
GrusCapital
forex_trader_35080
会员从Apr 27, 2011开始   17帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 21:44
@baraban: You are right in some respect. However, from my experience and point of view, I'd never say risk in the stock exchange (non small caps, but indices and blue chips) are as risky as leveraged products. Even considering a lack of counterparty, the 1 to 1 ratio would never put in a compromise your balance situation, at least that the level of a share or price goes virtually to zero. Even considering that, we've seen loses of more than 20% in the last years. Therefore, we should provide a bigger range to a leveraged product, but VERY cautiously.

@Chikot: One of the easiest things to understand in investment world, and small/retail investor does not seem to understand, is the fact that losing 50% of your money in a trade or period of time, needs a 100% of later profit just to compensate previous mistake! If you have that VERY simple fact in your brain. Losing more than 30%/35% of your money in less than a year is an action of a gambler, not an investor or a manager.

It's a pleasure to held this discussion with you. Almost 00:00h in Spain, so time to go to bed soon! :)
会员从Jan 14, 2010开始   2299帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 21:53
Grus, I understand this perfectly :)
This is why I say cut off 10-20 % :) Losing 40%? It is a nightmare!!! ok, 25% is a maximum.
But good trader must be never in this situation.
It is about consistent performance and being able either to adjust to any market conditions or stay away when market conditions are in conflict with trading approach.
会员从Jan 14, 2010开始   2299帖子
Apr 27, 2011 at 21:56
loss of 40% would require to trade back 67%. that's a lot.
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