What to look for when choosing a Forex Managed Account?
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Пользователь с Feb 27, 2011 8 сообщений
FXhelpers
Mar 05 2012 at 07:16
There are many traders and systems listed on here.
What due diligence do you do to make sure the trader is right for you? What properties/traits do you expect from a trader? What makes you special as a trader/account manager? Thank you for sharing your thoughts and recommendations. Michael |
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Пользователь с Feb 08, 2011 5 сообщений
Sebastian Petrik (seravitae)
Mar 07 2012 at 06:46
Talk to the trader. Get them on the phone. Ask about their previous history, and evidence that they can back it up. Ask for an investor password to one of their managed accounts or a client's PAMM account for proof. Use only safe(r) methods of money transfer like bank wires that can be traced.
Traits i expect are a level of professionality and a sense of integrity. The most successful traders are not just nice people to their clients, they are nice people to everyone. Get to know them personally, but not too close, as you are still a client. If their personality or ethics seems to be incongruent with contrast to their professionality, toss them out the door. Honesty is important, if they are hesitant, non-confident or diversive when talking about risk management or worst drawdown history or any mistakes they have made while trading, then they are only 'half a trader'. A good trader knows how to manage and be responsible for losses as well as profits and will have no problems telling you when they f***ed up, and how they managed it or fixed it. What makes me special as a trader? Mostly that like everything else in life, i seem to suck at practical elements, but be well informed and communicative in theory. I am not an account manager although I have access to two very successful managers of which both have helped develop my personal integrity as a trader, win or lose. I am not outwardly soliciting managed accounts here as it is against my ethics/professionality, but anyone is free to message me if they are interested in performance. Hope this helps Don't be greedy.. |
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Пользователь с Mar 06, 2012 17 сообщений
Smart Capital Management GmbH (SCManagement)
Mar 07 2012 at 11:48
first thing: always look for an imprint. No imprint with adress, phone number, management, etc - go away.
second thing: always look for regulation. there are so many 'account managers' that are not registered nor licences and how someone can get the idea of investing in such people, is absolutely stupid to me. then i agree with Seb. Talk to them. Get a feeling. Ask questions and then decide. A statement is always nice but 90% are probably faked. Investor password is worth a try but many won't and can't do that. and you should go for a money manager in your country or region. never invest with somebody that is 2000 or 10.000 miles away. if you have a problem with them, you do not stand a chance. money-management with a win-win |
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Пользователь с Feb 08, 2011 5 сообщений
Sebastian Petrik (seravitae)
Mar 07 2012 at 12:07
Agree with what most of SCM says - though, I would point out that distance may or may not be a deciding factor - one of my managers lives on the other side of the world, and I trust him more than I trust some local managers here. And he's pulled through. The main thing is to make sure you have accessible contact in a variety of manners. Phone, email, business address, etc.
Unfortunately these days I believe the creation of PAMM style accounts actually means that people can LPOA without necessarily requiring registration - and so every man and his dog are opening PAMMs. This has had no impact on the legitimate fund managers, although it has made them harder to locate. Whether or not a manager is licenced is the same issue as whether or not you should pick a licenced broker - in both cases, broker or manager, licenced or not, they have the capacity to serve you well or do you harm, so all you can do is research, due diligence, and trust your instincts, and build up a relationship, dont just jump in with all your spare change. Don't be greedy.. |
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Пользователь с Mar 06, 2012 17 сообщений
Smart Capital Management GmbH (SCManagement)
Mar 07 2012 at 15:04
yes, both can do you harm, same with brokers. but if i have a licencsed broker/ money manager in a country where they take regulation seriously, i have the chance to contact the authorities if i have a claim. still no guarantee but i have seen brokers/ money managers fold the moment they were threatened with regulators. so it gives you some sort of power. on the other hand,
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Пользователь с Mar 06, 2012 17 сообщений
Smart Capital Management GmbH (SCManagement)
Mar 07 2012 at 15:05
hm, ... a regulated money manager has a real company. office, maybe staff, tax, etc. and why should a trust an amateur with my money. i have seen amateur money managers, they take half their clients and go long and the other half to go short. of course, the leverage is far too high but on one side they make a huge profit and charge a nice performance fee. i would never give a not-licenced person my account to trade. never ever.
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Пользователь с Mar 07, 2012 2 сообщений
waed (zeidoon)
Mar 07 2012 at 22:17
what can make a person an account manager or a trader is the experience. When any one can know when the Foreign exchange market will falldown or when it will rise higher. You can know that anyone is a trader by a statement that shows his performance.
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Пользователь с Feb 08, 2012 15 сообщений
CBrider
Mar 13 2012 at 10:37
I have just went through an investigation process, and in the end I invested 40 000 USD with one manager (http://perfectofx.com/index.php?rid=129647
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Пользователь с Oct 27, 2009 28 сообщений
Nasco (nasco)
Mar 13 2012 at 18:49
Yes, you are correct in making contact with the trader personally, and asking questions. A regulated manager is not significant evidence he/she is competent to trade profitably. The most important thing is to verify the live account track record and make sure you understand the risk management scenerio used to trade the account funds. Ofcourse so many other details go into a safe and profitable managed trading scenerio, broker, spreads, risk,execution,VPS service, etc... that most people looking for a trading manager just 'assume' this is all in place properly.
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Пользователь с Mar 06, 2012 17 сообщений
Smart Capital Management GmbH (SCManagement)
Mar 16 2012 at 11:50
not regulated managers often brake the law by trading on behalf of other people. i would never invest my money with not regulated brokers and i don't understand people doing this.
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