EA MartiStoch v.2.0 (By forex_trader_72498)

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EA MartiStoch v.2.0 Discussion

Jul 15, 2013 at 06:11
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GBLab
forex_trader_72498
Member Since Apr 05, 2012   93 posts
Jul 29, 2013 at 12:32
AssetFX posted:
 
https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/ea-martistoch-conservative-2010-2013/41036 - Older version

https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/ea-martistoch-v20-conservative-2009/44255 - newer version

How does the new version 2.0 '' would pass that 'D-day' - with only 20% of balance lost, '' .

Are we suppose to run your robot with the 20% max DD equity Protection ( drawdownlimit)? because your 2.0 version backtest does not use a 20% maxDD and your DD is higher than 20% in reports.

My concern is you suggest a setting that you do not test in backtest.


No, 20% DD occurred on that D-day, but that doesn't mean these 20% is an absolute maximum of possible DD, it may be higher other day.

GBLab
forex_trader_72498
Member Since Apr 05, 2012   93 posts
Jul 29, 2013 at 12:35
AssetFX posted:
https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/ea-martistoch-v20-conservative-2009/44255

Can you explain why the EA would open a 1.62 lot and close for 13 pips then reopen the Same Lot size at the same minute the previous trade closed?

Isn't this a waste of commission?

The closing logic the same as the Opening logic? Or this is no logic after the first open positions? Please explain!


10.30.2009 13:00 10.30.2009 13:59 EURUSD Sell 1.62 1.50358 1.47928 1.48058 1.47928 13.0 194.40 59m 3.04%
10.30.2009 13:59 10.30.2009 15:16 EURUSD Sell 1.62 1.50221 1.47791 1.47921 1.47791 13.0 194.40 1h 17m 2.95%


You can call this waste of commission as well, but main purpose of this is to fix some profit before it turned to loss. Has such logic a right to exist?
GBLab
forex_trader_72498
Member Since Apr 05, 2012   93 posts
Jul 29, 2013 at 12:36
AssetFX posted:
Conservative settings at 9% DD ( 1k deposit )
Aggressive setting at 58% DD ( 2k deposit )

This Calculates that Aggressive setting has DD with 12 Times the Risk > Conservative and 3x Gains <

Aggressive setting is 12 times riskier and only 3 times more Gains.


Agree. That is why we always recommend conservative trading.
GBLab
forex_trader_72498
Member Since Apr 05, 2012   93 posts
Jul 29, 2013 at 12:39
AssetFX posted:
07.29.2013 10:01 07.29.2013 10:41 EURUSD Buy 0.02 -252.80 17.20 1.32708 1.32880 17.2 3.24 40m 0.27%

07.29.2013 09:29 07.29.2013 10:41 EURUSD Buy 0.01 -254.10 15.90 1.32721 1.32880 15.9 1.49 1h 12m 0.13%


Why is there only 2 pip difference in Open Price between these orders?

Doesn't this mean No grid element? Please explain.

Yes, there is no grid element in this EA. This is NOT a grid EA. Trades are opened when the signals appear and pass all the filters, regardless of the distance from the previous trades.
GBLab
forex_trader_72498
Member Since Apr 05, 2012   93 posts
Jul 29, 2013 at 12:49
AssetFX posted:
At level 5, the Lot multiplier went to 10x. I thought the multiplier was 3x all the way through? Did I miss something? I found this comment on DonnaForex. I can not confirm if more trades were suppose to be included in this Basket.

The multiplier is 2, but it multiplies not the last lot, but cumulative open lots. The reason of this is to shorten exposure time of high volume trades - the bigger is lot, the smaller TP is required to close the basket.

AssetFX posted:
From what is displayed , at Level 5, the Lotsize is relatively larger than what our Margin would allow at most fx broker. Can I open a 4.86 Lot with a 4900 Balance? No. What account leverage is used during your Backtests?

You can. Even with a leverage 200:1, while we are using 500:1 leverage. Not only for backtesting, for the live trading as well.


Ohhh, seems all your queries are answered, you can go on now, but not so fast, pleaaaaaaaaase 😁😲🙄
Member Since May 08, 2013   26 posts
Jul 31, 2013 at 06:52
LOL...
Member Since May 07, 2013   14 posts
Jul 31, 2013 at 12:19
@GBLab It was very confusing at first, but you have answered my questions and I now understand how your bot works. I'll follow the system and decide in another month!.
Member Since Mar 19, 2012   82 posts
Jul 31, 2013 at 13:00
Hello Golden Boomerang,

Does Martistoch Trail Takeprofits?

Thanks
GBLab
forex_trader_72498
Member Since Apr 05, 2012   93 posts
Jul 31, 2013 at 15:11
No, it doesn't. We considered this option, but found it less profitable than usual TP.
Member Since Oct 03, 2010   155 posts
Jul 31, 2013 at 15:46
GBLab posted:
No, it doesn't. We considered this option, but found it less profitable than usual TP.

Are you using aggresive mode in your Myfxbook?
GBLab
forex_trader_72498
Member Since Apr 05, 2012   93 posts
Jul 31, 2013 at 16:23
jsintl posted:
Are you using aggresive mode in your Myfxbook?

No, this is conservative mode.
Member Since May 08, 2013   26 posts
Aug 01, 2013 at 09:20
Hi Sir,

Can you please do me a favor by email me the backtest for MartiStoch 2.0 with conservative mode for period 01/06/2013 ~ 31/07/2013 ? I'll put this EA in my selections if i'm able to know the DD for this 2 months.

Thank you very much.
GBLab
forex_trader_72498
Member Since Apr 05, 2012   93 posts
Aug 01, 2013 at 11:49
andyngeow posted:
Hi Sir,

Can you please do me a favor by email me the backtest for MartiStoch 2.0 with conservative mode for period 01/06/2013 ~ 31/07/2013 ? I'll put this EA in my selections if i'm able to know the DD for this 2 months.

Thank you very much.

My 'favorite' terminal with 90% quality history data is busy today with another EA optimization. I run requested BT on another terminal and attach its graph so far. Tomorrow I will provide full test report with 90% quality.
GBLab
forex_trader_72498
Member Since Apr 05, 2012   93 posts
Aug 02, 2013 at 07:36
andyngeow posted:
Hi Sir,

Can you please do me a favor by email me the backtest for MartiStoch 2.0 with conservative mode for period 01/06/2013 ~ 31/07/2013 ? I'll put this EA in my selections if i'm able to know the DD for this 2 months.

Thank you very much.

Here it is!
Member Since May 08, 2013   26 posts
Aug 02, 2013 at 09:14
Hi Again,

Another question, It's really difficult for me to figure out what is the different compare with MartiGrid & MartiStoch V2.0.

MartiStoch V2.0 has a very good profit factor, but i'm afraid the DD and large lot size is implemented, because i'm going to start with $1000 only. Is that too risky?

I like MartiGrid with higher winning ratio, tight TP while keeping same lot size up to 10 trades. I guess is it using Lower Cost Averaging Strategy then follow by Martingale Strategy, am I right?

Comparison for both:
1. Which one has the lower DD?
2. Same H1 timeframe?
3. How to determine the TP & SL for MartiStoch? As i know MartiGrid TP is 20 pips, and SL?
4. Am i able to limit the MAXIMUM lot size and open trade for both version?
5. Only support one currency pair? How about others?
6. It's based on over brought & over sold for entry point? Or it's scalping by trend?

Thanks again,
Andy
GBLab
forex_trader_72498
Member Since Apr 05, 2012   93 posts
Aug 02, 2013 at 11:29
andyngeow posted:
Hi Again,

Another question, It's really difficult for me to figure out what is the different compare with MartiGrid & MartiStoch V2.0.

MartiStoch V2.0 has a very good profit factor, but i'm afraid the DD and large lot size is implemented, because i'm going to start with $1000 only. Is that too risky?

I like MartiGrid with higher winning ratio, tight TP while keeping same lot size up to 10 trades. I guess is it using Lower Cost Averaging Strategy then follow by Martingale Strategy, am I right?

Comparison for both:
1. Which one has the lower DD?
2. Same H1 timeframe?
3. How to determine the TP & SL for MartiStoch? As i know MartiGrid TP is 20 pips, and SL?
4. Am i able to limit the MAXIMUM lot size and open trade for both version?
5. Only support one currency pair? How about others?
6. It's based on over brought & over sold for entry point? Or it's scalping by trend?

Thanks again,
Andy

1. MartiStoch v.2.0 has the lower DD.
2. Yes.
3. TP and SL are floating for MartiStoch, no SL for MartiGrid.
4. Yes.
5. Designed for EURUSD. No reason to use with another pairs.
6. Not exactly, both of them use a lot of indicators of different nature.
Member Since Oct 03, 2010   155 posts
Aug 03, 2013 at 16:17
Is there any maximum level this EA will open e.g. max of 5 trades, etc.

Tks,
GBLab
forex_trader_72498
Member Since Apr 05, 2012   93 posts
Aug 03, 2013 at 18:17
jsintl posted:
Is there any maximum level this EA will open e.g. max of 5 trades, etc.

Tks,

Yes, there is. Variable 'Max Trades' can be adjusted by the user. Default value = 6.
Member Since May 08, 2013   26 posts
Aug 13, 2013 at 14:29
Why this system is in private now? I'm just started your free trial and now is in the huge loss than ever recorded. Can you please explain what's wrong with it?
Member Since Jun 03, 2010   696 posts
Aug 13, 2013 at 14:31
HAHA! Martingale is baaad 😈
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