KeltnerPRO - Jared (By keltnerpro)
| Gain : | +5645.75% |
| Drawdown | 58.74% |
| Pips: | 4744.8 |
| Trades | 1003 |
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| Type: | Real |
| Leverage: | 1:100 |
| Trading: | Unknown |
KeltnerPRO - Jared Discussion
Dec 04, 2014 at 06:56
I've started from 16 Oct 2014 and till yesterday 3 Dec 2014, my live trading account suffered net losses.
Decided to stop using Keltner Pro. I've emailed the trades details and requested for refund, but no reply from Jared.
Has anyone successfully got their refund?
Decided to stop using Keltner Pro. I've emailed the trades details and requested for refund, but no reply from Jared.
Has anyone successfully got their refund?
Dec 04, 2014 at 07:22
aagarcia posted:stevetrade posted:So you're still willing to risk Jan and Feb. when backtests proved unworthy? Wouldn't it be smarter to wait until after Feb.??
I'm in the process of testing all pairs for the last three years, after which I will aggregate the results and analyse. Unfortunately Keltner is a slow backtest so it will take most of this week to do.
I can see from the EurUsd that in the couple of weeks around Christmas for
2013/2014 - EurUsd lost 11.46%
2012/2013 - EurUsd lost 9.4%
2011/2012 - EurUsd, this was a weird one as Christmas fell at the weekend. The two week period didn't trade, a three week period made a gain.
Now, if you look at December 1st 2013 till December 22nd 2013 EurUsd made 9.07%.
So, there's no rush to make a decision. Personally I think a switch off from December 19th until January 5th will be the way forward.
Best regards Steve
never you can say whats happen in the future, every month could happens something bad or good. i leave it run with my risk i set from beginning when i bought the ea. and that was middle of october
Dec 04, 2014 at 07:23
stevetrade posted:
I've only completed the backtest for EurUsd so far but I'm not seeing January and February as poor months to trade EurUsd. I'm not sure which data you are looking at.
Best regards Steve
I just want to see it have a few successes to give me a bit of confidence, im running it with REV trader PRO and that is covering Keltners losses at the moment
Dec 04, 2014 at 11:02
kobebeef posted:
I've started from 16 Oct 2014 and till yesterday 3 Dec 2014, my live trading account suffered net losses.
Decided to stop using Keltner Pro. I've emailed the trades details and requested for refund, but no reply from Jared.
Has anyone successfully got their refund?
i tested when i bought the first time to get my refund....without any problems...you have to make it with the email from clickbetter..after i get my refund i bought again.
Jared is one of the corectest vendors and always very helpful guy.
i can recomment this developper and vendor. he is not like other scammers
Dec 04, 2014 at 11:14
marran posted:stevetrade posted:
I've only completed the backtest for EurUsd so far but I'm not seeing January and February as poor months to trade EurUsd. I'm not sure which data you are looking at.
Best regards Steve
I just want to see it have a few successes to give me a bit of confidence, im running it with REV trader PRO and that is covering Keltners losses at the moment
we might have trades today and tomorrow, but I doubt you will have enough trading in your coming 60days to give you a good view...
Steves says one of the pair was profitable in DEC/FEB... how many are you trading.
Could you also backtest the other pairs? Id disregard up fron the NZDUSD ...
Cheers,
vlad
vladrac@
Dec 04, 2014 at 14:21
Well I think it's quite obvious that the Liquidity Providers (Smart Money) is on to this system. You have to remember that not only is the legit KeltnerPro out but there are pirated copies plus others that have been created based off of it. There is NO way they will continue to lose to thousands of EA traders. They will bring price down (or up) to trigger the trades and take it the opposite way to take you out before going back into it's proper way. Another EA that is a victim of it's own success. I'm done.
Member Since Oct 28, 2009
1424 posts
Dec 04, 2014 at 14:32
(edited Dec 04, 2014 at 14:32)
That does look like a stop hunt, a few previous ones have looked like stop hunts but that EurUsd trade looked especially like one. Really wish this EA would have used a hidden stop loss. It takes the market makers a little longer to figure things out then.
Best regards Steve
Best regards Steve
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
Dec 04, 2014 at 14:36
aagarcia posted:
Well I think it's quite obvious that the Liquidity Providers (Smart Money) is on to this system. You have to remember that not only is the legit KeltnerPro out but there are pirated copies plus others that have been created based off of it. There is NO way they will continue to lose to thousands of EA traders. They will bring price down (or up) to trigger the trades and take it the opposite way to take you out before going back into it's proper way. Another EA that is a victim of it's own success. I'm done.
go back quite a few pages before... when I wrote... lets hope the providers dont put their fingers on this one ... as they usually do...
well, didnt seem to take long...
So, we might be in a dangerous zone... specially as I said DEC/FEB...but good luck
vladrac@
Dec 04, 2014 at 15:10
marran posted:\
well what a great time i chose to start running Keltner !!!
happens... bad timing indeed
Oct was too good to be true... Nov and Dec...but look this EA is running for over 7months now...and its a really easy to copy strategy anyone can easily counter-attack if they want to.
vladrac@
Dec 04, 2014 at 15:12
take a look at Eur/Aud. THAT'S how the real move is suppose to look like. Now look at that drop on Eur/Usd and you can see the stop hunt. One thing is the broker and another thing is the LPs. Yet regulators think they are making a dent in the collusion. F$cking laughable.
Dec 04, 2014 at 16:54
aagarcia posted:
take a look at Eur/Aud. THAT'S how the real move is suppose to look like. Now look at that drop on Eur/Usd and you can see the stop hunt. One thing is the broker and another thing is the LPs. Yet regulators think they are making a dent in the collusion. F$cking laughable.
EURUSD is the most targeted ones...there are certainty more well behaved ones... where there's no big players f up with the market.
vladrac@
Dec 04, 2014 at 22:00
kobebeef posted:
I've started from 16 Oct 2014 and till yesterday 3 Dec 2014, my live trading account suffered net losses.
Decided to stop using Keltner Pro. I've emailed the trades details and requested for refund, but no reply from Jared.
Has anyone successfully got their refund?
Yes i was refunded in just a few days, did you use clickbetter?
Member Since Oct 07, 2014
11 posts
Dec 05, 2014 at 11:48
My account is -160 pips so far, not a good start
Member Since Apr 25, 2014
249 posts
Dec 05, 2014 at 11:58
If you manual intervention than you can gain more with this EA. For example see yesterday's USDCHF, and EURUSD trades, if you would have closed manually when it was in profit then you must have gained extra pips instead loss. I fixed target 1-2% gain per event then closing all trades will give more return than leaving EA to close the trades.
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