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TheCyclist

Member Since Feb 07, 2011  618 posts PipGnostic (TheCyclist) Apr 25 2012 at 11:18
Lol - oh boy have I thought about hedging. Few years now or something.

I been around the block mate.

Over the years I must have binned a few hundred of these systems. Been battling the fat tail for at least 3 years now, can't build a future on a fat tail system. You can hedge till you are metallic purple in the face - at some point you have to deal with your losers or wipe out and/or run out of margin.

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TheCyclist

Member Since Feb 07, 2011  618 posts PipGnostic (TheCyclist) Apr 25 2012 at 11:39 (edited Apr 25 2012 at 11:43 )
I've even tried running the fat tails against each other, i.o.w's hedging. Know what happens? You end up with two sets of losing trades, instead of one. And you start building positions in other pairs if you use more than one pair to hedge.

Start taking them off the table, because you're running out of margin, suddenly have exposure and exactly what happened on your portfolio in the last two days is what happens. The NAV crashes.

Anyways, not important. Going away soon, so don't mind me. Just an observation.

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Master_of_Chaos

Member Since Apr 14, 2012  23 posts Master_of_Chaos Apr 25 2012 at 16:51
You are talking about something, with which you have no experience. I'm sorry, but you don't understand anything of the system otherwise you could at least calculate, that the system could never run in a margin call.

By the way, our discussion stops exactly at this point, because I don't waste my time with ignorant and impolite people. Finished !!!

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TheCyclist

Member Since Feb 07, 2011  618 posts PipGnostic (TheCyclist) Apr 26 2012 at 01:30 (edited Apr 26 2012 at 01:50 )
Sigh...

Haven't been doing this for a decade at all. Can't see what's going on in a system at a glance. I might be many things, but ignorant is not one of them, not when it comes to fx trading.

Good luck with that double fat tail.

Just like to point out that djack said balance going one way, equity the other. You said nonsense, come back in 3 or 4 days. It's been those 3 or 4 days now and it's got worse. A lot worse.

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mistificator

Member Since Aug 16, 2010  452 posts Raa (mistificator) Apr 26 2012 at 18:41
this is another way to hell.. going up on balance down on equity! haha

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Midoru

Member Since Apr 22, 2010  15 posts Midoru Apr 26 2012 at 22:19

   Master_of_Chaos posted:
   
   TheCyclist posted:
   Divergence should be more evident now?


Not at all........ it is the normal behaviour for a system which likes ranging markets. And the major part in a year we normally have ranging markets......


System history shows a conservative 1.87% monthly average with a NAV high of 9.91% over 8 months. Losing all profit in a couple of weeks is normal behavior? At the rate this system earns, looks like you may be stuck for some time.

Master_of_Chaos

Member Since Apr 14, 2012  23 posts Master_of_Chaos May 17 2012 at 16:13

   mistificator posted:
   this is another way to hell.. going up on balance down on equity! haha


Why argueing, when the time deliver the proof. The fat divergent tail is winning, as predicted LOL...... in average it wins between 0.5 and 1 percent a day..... not every day, but in average ...... this system will always win, if you don't choose the risk too high ........ but we'll see the coming weeks

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TheCyclist

Member Since Feb 07, 2011  618 posts PipGnostic (TheCyclist) May 17 2012 at 23:28
You got lucky. Nothing more. 85% DD on that demo...

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Master_of_Chaos

Member Since Apr 14, 2012  23 posts Master_of_Chaos May 18 2012 at 03:34
Of course.......... the ideas and the success of anybody else is always pure luck........ You are sooooo right...... LOL

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TheCyclist

Member Since Feb 07, 2011  618 posts PipGnostic (TheCyclist) May 18 2012 at 04:03
Sigh - k, whatever.

If that 85% DD doesn't give you a wake up call nothing will.


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