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walker36

Członek od May 13, 2011  1341 postów Steve Walker (walker36) Jul 26 2011 at 07:54
Thank you.

the concept is, trade must start with in profit. so when both orders are opened the balance should be positive. then system will wait for another price jump or step-ups as you have said to exit.
so when system is waiting to exit it is in already profit. the next opposite price jump for exit is the to make exit safer.

avarage 5-10 jumps a day so far

regards
walker

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walker36

Członek od May 13, 2011  1341 postów Steve Walker (walker36) Jul 26 2011 at 09:45
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as you can see the tarde posted earlier closed with a good profit. the one before and the next 2.
currently programming a new and faster dll to improve speed and consistancy but unfortunatelly I am using the same accounts to make those tests and improvements so you will see some some of the trades lost.
but if you sum up overall still in profit.

regards
walker



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Członek od May 13, 2011  1341 postów Steve Walker (walker36) Jul 26 2011 at 10:31
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Członek od May 13, 2011  1341 postów Steve Walker (walker36) Jul 26 2011 at 10:34
and closed in profit

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James_Bond

Członek od Jan 14, 2010  556 postów James_Bond Jul 26 2011 at 11:28

walker36 posted:
    Thank you.

the concept is, trade must start with in profit. so when both orders are opened the balance should be positive. then system will wait for another price jump or step-ups as you have said to exit.
so when system is waiting to exit it is in already profit. the next opposite price jump for exit is the to make exit safer.

avarage 5-10 jumps a day so far

regards
walker


What's the average pip profit on these round trip trades? 2 pips?

Also, isn't it simply taking advantage of a feed delay of a broker?

walker36

Członek od May 13, 2011  1341 postów Steve Walker (walker36) Jul 26 2011 at 11:41
profit is depending on the enty and exit setup done by the user +- the slippage.
slippage can be + or - and the codes monitoring the entry and exit slippages for best exit strategy and entering the new trade.

`isn't it simply taking advantage of a feed delay of a broker? `
NO
becouse this system has to work on VPS with min latency to both brokers. this means system is NOT catching the delays.
NO ONE can not make ANY profit from feed delays. feed is delaying on customer side NOT on broker side,
so if a system detects a delay and send an order to the server the order open price will be server price not user platform price.

SO where is the profit coming from for unique EURUSD pair.

SIMPLE. it is coming form the differences from different brokers cash providers and their server reactions. different brokers has different customers and different banks connected with for the cash. all these different setups creating very small differencies between their prices.

regards
walker





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James_Bond

Członek od Jan 14, 2010  556 postów James_Bond Jul 26 2011 at 11:45

walker36 posted:
    profit is depending on the enty and exit setup done by the user +- the slippage.
slippage can be + or - and the codes monitoring the entry and exit slippages for best exit strategy and entering the new trade.

`isn't it simply taking advantage of a feed delay of a broker? `
NO
becouse this system has to work on VPS with min latency to both brokers. this means system is NOT catching the delays.
NO ONE can not make ANY profit from feed delays. feed is delaying on customer side NOT on broker side,
so if a system detects a delay and send an order to the server the order open price will be server price not user platform price.

SO where is the profit coming from for unique EURUSD pair.

SIMPLE. it is coming form the differences from different brokers cash providers and their server reactions. different brokers has different customers and different banks connected with for the cash. all these different setups creating very small differencies between their prices.

regards
walker



I appreciate your excellent explanation.

Are you working with 2 brokers only? Or do you run the EA on say 10 brokers and open/close positions on both extremes?

walker36

Członek od May 13, 2011  1341 postów Steve Walker (walker36) Jul 26 2011 at 11:55
thank you

this code can not run more then one pair or more then 2 brokers at the same time. this will dramaticly reduce the speed.
SPEED is the KEY.
No need to explain but NO ONE can catch the last tick for entering the trade seen on the screen even if you are looking at the brokers server data. but you can catch the next one and if you have enough gap to eliminate the - slippage then this will make profit for you.

the average tick movement for the EURUSD is 0.35 pips. ofcourse this can be bigger and smaller. the code setup calculating all these parameters and catching the next tick if it s going to be a profit trade. But nothing is %100 though.

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James_Bond

Członek od Jan 14, 2010  556 postów James_Bond Jul 26 2011 at 14:25

walker36 posted:
    thank you

this code can not run more then one pair or more then 2 brokers at the same time. this will dramaticly reduce the speed.
SPEED is the KEY.
No need to explain but NO ONE can catch the last tick for entering the trade seen on the screen even if you are looking at the brokers server data. but you can catch the next one and if you have enough gap to eliminate the - slippage then this will make profit for you.

the average tick movement for the EURUSD is 0.35 pips. ofcourse this can be bigger and smaller. the code setup calculating all these parameters and catching the next tick if it s going to be a profit trade. But nothing is %100 though.

regards



Very interesting. And when do you see most of these setups happening - in volatile moves or when there is low liquidity?

walker36

Członek od May 13, 2011  1341 postów Steve Walker (walker36) Jul 26 2011 at 14:42
any time.
do not compare this system with trend or counter trend trade or Asian scalpers.
this system is waiting a distortion in the price regarding to other broker.

distortion is bad thing for the broker due the price is moved away from where it should be, but it happens becouse nothing is perfect as I explained earlier post,

the unique thing for this system is following
eg...
one of the most famous Asian scalper has sold around 40-50 k copies. and it is creating t is own slippage. this is killing its own trades, creators has added random entry time window so each copy entering the trade in different time form each other due to low liquidity. but still having problem.

fortunatelly for this system, it is not possible to enter trades at the same time.
beacouse
each user has to set up to same gap which not possible
each user has to use the same pair which not possible
each user has to use the same two brokers which not possible

regards


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