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is it possible to turn $100 to $1000 in 4 weeks ? (real account)
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mrtodd

Členem od Jan 12, 2014  120 zpráv(a,y) mrtodd Nov 16 2014 at 08:02
I did it in a 24 hour period. Used 500:1 margin. Traded UDS/JPY. When you get over $200 all you need is 80 pips trading 1 lot.
It's not hard to this. The hard part is keeping that money. Trading aggressively is not a recipe for long term success. I know from experience.

You've gotta be in it to win it.
jamesphuc

Členem od May 19, 2014  88 zpráv(a,y) James Phuc (jamesphuc) Nov 16 2014 at 08:03
Hi BoneTrader,

You can reach your target, I think.

+ But if you can control and minimize your max drawdown to 30% (better around 20% - 25%) and relative drawdown to 35% at all times, control your emotions, then, just open a PAMM Account at some reliable brokers, offer your PAMM service with a performance fee around 20% - 30% maximum, then, you will get rich soon, while feeling happy because you also help other newbie traders as well as pure investors to make profits along with you.

+ So, why not do meaningful things, right ?

+ Keep me informed via my email: jamesphuc8888@gmail.com once you have above intentions. Any good and consistently profit making traders, please email me to tell about your PAMM Accounts for me to check and join. Thanks.

Have a nice weekend to all !

James

alexforex007

Členem od Oct 11, 2013  664 zpráv(a,y) alexforex007 Nov 17 2014 at 05:22
In trading less is more, less trading is better, because you minimize your exposure.

BoneTrader

Členem od Oct 27, 2012  35 zpráv(a,y) BoneTrader Nov 17 2014 at 07:41
jamesphuc posted:
Hi BoneTrader,

You can reach your target, I think.

+ But if you can control and minimize your max drawdown to 30% (better around 20% - 25%) and relative drawdown to 35% at all times, control your emotions, then, just open a PAMM Account at some reliable brokers, offer your PAMM service with a performance fee around 20% - 30% maximum, then, you will get rich soon, while feeling happy because you also help other newbie traders as well as pure investors to make profits along with you.

+ So, why not do meaningful things, right ?

+ Keep me informed via my email: jamesphuc8888@gmail.com once you have above intentions. Any good and consistently profit making traders, please email me to tell about your PAMM Accounts for me to check and join. Thanks.

Have a nice weekend to all !

James

Hello! Please do not consider me of being rude or something, but u seem not to be very competent in neither investing or trading. I don't want to say that I'm very competent or expert in any of these fields, but I have my own view on both of them which I'll try to briefly explain.

First of all - there is no way to get 1000% per month with 30% drawdown and do it for many, many months. Just in a 3 months 10.000 will turn to 10.000.000. Excluding trader's 'wages' pure profit for investor would be 9.900.000 * 0.8 = 7.920.000 while traders profit would be 1.980.000.

And its just in 3 months. Starting with 10.000 only. But can you imagine how many people are ready to risk with 10.000 to get even 5 times more in a month? 25 times more in two and 125 times more in three months? It would be many many many 10.000 at once.

If I show ideal 20% drawdown for a long period of time and decent 500% profit per month for two months, a lot of people would risk their money, maybe not 10.000, but total sum would be great. But they won't know what is the risk. It's hard to realize that there is 100% loss risk, when you see green statistics which could solve all your problems at once.

I'm investing money myself too, and I know what I'm talking about. There is no 'stable' way to get any kind of profit for middle-to-long term. You always have to manage your capital, no matter how small it is. You always have to summarize profit/loss, calculate risks and set up your investments. And very small part of it might be considered as ultra-high-risk-investment.

These project - 'Booster', I risk only 100$ and the time, which is more valuable for me. Investor's in such case would risk only money.

For now I see that both my 'investments' have prospered - I got +850% pure gain, got 150% from rebates, but what is more significant for me - well, now I'm confident that my approach is not totally wrong :) And my time was not wasted!

For me such kind of project is very similar to HYIP logic - it is high risk, but reward is proportional to the risk. I have tried to invest in several HYIPs and I do not understand how people are ready to risk their money with that trash.

I'm thinking of opening PAMM, but I do not want everyone to join it. I want people to realize the risks. I want the people to say 'Hey, that's the guy who helped me to get some money' and not 'hey, that's the idiot who lost my money...'. It will not be invest-and-forget type project, it will burn, and again, and again. Because I can see that there is chance to grow investment for several times, but it is not stable and there always will be situations when I would lose my balance. but with a correct money-management approach I'm not going to lose my deposit. And any investor should be ready for working with such project. In such case we might start again and again, each time getting priceless experience and maybe good money too :) And as a result it all will become stable and profitable for everyone, well at least I trust that it is possible.

¡ŋ ђθς ş¡ģŋθ ұ¡ŋςəş /
ekscalping

Členem od Apr 09, 2012  67 zpráv(a,y) ekscalping (ekscalping) Nov 22 2014 at 13:01
alunix posted:
is it possible to turn $100 to $1000 in 4 weeks ? (real account)
so if any senior trader here want to show their account, meet few people and they always the same say, ITS IMPOSSIBLE
they said it would be different demo account and real account.
i still believe its Possible To Do, even in real account.
what do you Say Fellow Trader? anyone did in real account?


https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ekscalping/chantikaeav10/1077548

going to be imposible $10 to $1.000.000
rajivzz

Členem od Nov 14, 2012  30 zpráv(a,y) Rajiv (rajivzz) Nov 22 2014 at 13:02
BoneTrader posted:
jamesphuc posted:
Hi BoneTrader,

You can reach your target, I think.

+ But if you can control and minimize your max drawdown to 30% (better around 20% - 25%) and relative drawdown to 35% at all times, control your emotions, then, just open a PAMM Account at some reliable brokers, offer your PAMM service with a performance fee around 20% - 30% maximum, then, you will get rich soon, while feeling happy because you also help other newbie traders as well as pure investors to make profits along with you.

+ So, why not do meaningful things, right ?

+ Keep me informed via my email: jamesphuc8888@gmail.com once you have above intentions. Any good and consistently profit making traders, please email me to tell about your PAMM Accounts for me to check and join. Thanks.

Have a nice weekend to all !

James

Hello! Please do not consider me of being rude or something, but u seem not to be very competent in neither investing or trading. I don't want to say that I'm very competent or expert in any of these fields, but I have my own view on both of them which I'll try to briefly explain.

First of all - there is no way to get 1000% per month with 30% drawdown and do it for many, many months. Just in a 3 months 10.000 will turn to 10.000.000. Excluding trader's 'wages' pure profit for investor would be 9.900.000 * 0.8 = 7.920.000 while traders profit would be 1.980.000.

And its just in 3 months. Starting with 10.000 only. But can you imagine how many people are ready to risk with 10.000 to get even 5 times more in a month? 25 times more in two and 125 times more in three months? It would be many many many 10.000 at once.

If I show ideal 20% drawdown for a long period of time and decent 500% profit per month for two months, a lot of people would risk their money, maybe not 10.000, but total sum would be great. But they won't know what is the risk. It's hard to realize that there is 100% loss risk, when you see green statistics which could solve all your problems at once.

I'm investing money myself too, and I know what I'm talking about. There is no 'stable' way to get any kind of profit for middle-to-long term. You always have to manage your capital, no matter how small it is. You always have to summarize profit/loss, calculate risks and set up your investments. And very small part of it might be considered as ultra-high-risk-investment.

These project - 'Booster', I risk only 100$ and the time, which is more valuable for me. Investor's in such case would risk only money.

For now I see that both my 'investments' have prospered - I got +850% pure gain, got 150% from rebates, but what is more significant for me - well, now I'm confident that my approach is not totally wrong :) And my time was not wasted!

For me such kind of project is very similar to HYIP logic - it is high risk, but reward is proportional to the risk. I have tried to invest in several HYIPs and I do not understand how people are ready to risk their money with that trash.

I'm thinking of opening PAMM, but I do not want everyone to join it. I want people to realize the risks. I want the people to say 'Hey, that's the guy who helped me to get some money' and not 'hey, that's the idiot who lost my money...'. It will not be invest-and-forget type project, it will burn, and again, and again. Because I can see that there is chance to grow investment for several times, but it is not stable and there always will be situations when I would lose my balance. but with a correct money-management approach I'm not going to lose my deposit. And any investor should be ready for working with such project. In such case we might start again and again, each time getting priceless experience and maybe good money too :) And as a result it all will become stable and profitable for everyone, well at least I trust that it is possible.


so happy now?

Its working No GRID, No MARG, No ARB, No HEDGE ,No HFT Open and Close single trade at a time Avg. Trade Length: 1 Hour Expectancy: 1.8 Pips Near 600 Pips Made in 2.5 months Verified Real Account (Double Green Ticks)
Cholipop

Členem od Aug 07, 2014  406 zpráv(a,y) Cholipop Nov 22 2014 at 13:11
BoneTrader posted:
901.25$ and one more day to go! Not sure if I can make it, but I got close to the goal... roll wink



 Then you have a look at the account, and you see the huge spike down. He lost all of his profit, although he was not claiming to have the holy grail, the reality is that bias trading caused him to take a big trade which he didn't respect the price action, and he got hammered. :(

Why guess, when you can react to what is in front of you.
badenglish

Členem od Oct 17, 2014  21 zpráv(a,y) when i see u smile (badenglish) Nov 23 2014 at 08:01
alunix posted:
is it possible to turn $100 to $1000 in 4 weeks ? (real account)
so if any senior trader here want to show their account, meet few people and they always the same say, ITS IMPOSSIBLE
they said it would be different demo account and real account.
i still believe its Possible To Do, even in real account.
what do you Say Fellow Trader? anyone did in real account?


Of course it's possible, but it's highly risky. Not only $100 to $1000 in 4 weeks, You can also turn $1 into a million dollars quickly if you play it perfectly. many people keep asking profit that they could get but never ask how much that they could loss.


BluePanther

Členem od Jan 25, 2010  945 zpráv(a,y) Matt (BluePanther) Nov 23 2014 at 19:23 (editováno Nov 23 2014 at 19:37 )
@BoneTrader : Good response. All considered, if you turn your $100 into $1000 in four weeks you now have 10x your starting capital. This can be thought of as 10x the chances in case things go wrong. In any case, it looks like the odds are in investors' (your) favor, since it would take 9x of failed accounts to bring you back to your original account balance, but if you were successful in your 10th account you would again have another 10 chances to succeed.

That is thinking simplistically and optimistically. I guess the probability to succeed would be more like:

Probability of an event happening = Number of wanted outcomes / Number of possible outcomes
= 1 (win) / 2 (buy or sell)
=0.5 or 50%

And with an 83% success rate out of 588 total trades (as at 17 Nov), then we need to multiply each outcome to get our probability of a successful account:

488 winners, 100 losers...

Successful trades:
=0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5... (488 x)
=0.5^488
=1.2513019344894381e-147 (or 1.25 preceded by 147 '0's)
=0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000012513019344894381

Unsuccessful trades:
=0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5... (100 x)
=0.5^100
=7.888609052210118e-31 (or 7.88 preceded by 31 '0's)
=0.00000000000000000000000000000007888609052210118

First, we multiply 0.5^488 (the chance of getting wins 488 times) by 0.5^100 (the chance of getting losses 100 times) with each other:
0.5^488*0.5^100=0.5^588

Then, we multiply that product by all the different combinations of 488 in 588:
=588!/((488!) x (100!))
=6.49460168 E+1374 / 5.708736216 E+1101 x 9.332621544 E+157
=??
=0.5^588* ?? = ???

I don't know... seems the number is so insignificant (I get 'infinity') that the probability of doing this over and over is very slim indeed (and I am only calculating the probability of one successful four week period). I tried to use a few online calculators to do the sums - anyone is welcome to correct me if I am wrong. I know my maths is flawed.

You might be better off playing the lottery. tongue

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BoneTrader

Členem od Oct 27, 2012  35 zpráv(a,y) BoneTrader Nov 24 2014 at 08:07
@Matt: :)) Nice calculations, it reminded me of one of discusses with friends regarding 'probability of getting XX times black/red in a row in roulette' or 'probability of rolling '6' on dice XX times in a row'. Although we could not get to consensus, we had distinct two versions, both were more or less good. One was doing calculations like you did and getting very small probability of doing that. Another said that each roll of the dice or roulette was separate case and probability in each case had to be calculated separately and was something like 50% for roulette and 1/6 for dice. :)

Anyway for my case your calculations are still not acceptable, as you do not consider price values and indicators. Your calculations would be right (more or less, as variant #1 from above mentioned discussion) if I was opening trades absolutely randomly. But I'm still using some indicators and chart for each trade, and that's making system very complicated to calculate possibility as you did above.


@EveryoneOther: Hello guyz :) Yes, I failed. No I'm not happy. But did any of you expect this to last forever? Sorry to frustrate your expectations then... evil But that was my experiment, and it succeed! It is not over, just part 1 finished, well a bit earlier then I expected, but it had to happen, otherwise I had no chance to move to part 2.

Ok, let's forget a bit of me and let's talk a bit about you, all of you who is trading or ever traded. Talk about 'the standards' of trading, like 'having drawdown of 20% max' or '2% max risk per trade' or 'TP should be 3 times more then SL' (lol sorry, always laugh at this point lol).

Imagine of 1000$ on trading account. 2% risk per trade is 20$. TP 3 times more then SL is 60$ win or 20$ loss. 20% max drawdown is 200$ or 10 trades which should bring up to 600$ if follow rule #3. Now try to concentrate and answer following question - Why the hell do you keep other 800$ at broker account? and another one - Are they 100% safe from loss even if you follow all of the rules?

Now look back at my 'Booster' chart. How much I lost? it says that only 4%, but even that's not true as I got at least 2.5 times more from rebates. Consider me having 1000$ on account and going in 0.4% drawdown at the moment :) and making 25% of profit. It's much better picture, but the truth is that reality doesn't change from any point of view.

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