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Automated systems with 95% profitability - can this be true ?

Johan Laagland (jlaagland)
May 12 2015 at 09:03
posts 8
tapper posted:
jlaagland posted:

This one is doing nicely so far, now profitability 94%.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/jlaagland/triple-b-scalping-eurgbp/109888


May I know why your History is hidden by privacy settings?
As well as other important information?

Thx

Actually we are running this strategy on Darwinex Investors website. All information is available at their site. We are using a myfxbook account image widget to show on our own website. To achieve this I needed to make the myfxbook account public only.

Regards,
Johan.
ScalpingRus
May 12 2015 at 13:07
posts 116
donnhan169 posted:
@ScalpingRus Are you blind ? dont you see My system is running on my real account. There are nothing wrong if i decide to sell my ea to small private group, have you ever seen successful people who teach others, writing/selling book, giving seiminars.

No wonder a loser like you still struggling making money in this business. wasting time trading on a $400 account. Come on dude, a waitor is even making more money than you trade a month. Get a Life !

Before even giving other advises, one needs to look at themself if they are quality for it. DonNhan

 A 'WAITER' may make more then me, but I sure don't have to roll out of bed in order earn it. As for me being blind, I may indeed be blind, but I don't need eyes to see your scamming BS selling something that doesn't work at all. You see it because you know you can make much more money doing so, then actually opening a live trade.
ScalpingRus
May 12 2015 at 13:11
posts 116
donnhan169 posted:
@ScalpingRus Are you blind ? dont you see My system is running on my real account. There are nothing wrong if i decide to sell my ea to small private group, have you ever seen successful people who teach others, writing/selling book, giving seiminars.

No wonder a loser like you still struggling making money in this business. wasting time trading on a $400 account. Come on dude, a waitor is even making more money than you trade a month. Get a Life !

Before even giving other advises, one needs to look at themself if they are quality for it. DonNhan

 Not to mention you are using a bucket shop broker, with hidden funds, and you had a third account posted yesterday, which all of a sudden has been 'removed by user' jajajaajajaja. I wonder what happened to that account. In forex it is much easier to have a bucketshop broker backing you and some made up freeware EA and selling it, then actually earning in forex. :) We see through your BS and the reality is we are calling you out on it.
FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
May 12 2015 at 14:13
posts 1608
Being a victim of two EAs - supported by VERIFIED REAL MyFxBook accounts' results run at 'bucketshop' brokers, I would consider an account REAL and VERIFIED only if run at a highly regulated mainstream broker. The rest get a HUGE RED FLAG from me.
Please click "Vouch" if you liked my post. If not, just put me on your Blocked list. :o)
ScalpingRus
May 12 2015 at 16:02
posts 116
FxMasterGuru posted:
Being a victim of two EAs - supported by VERIFIED REAL MyFxBook accounts' results run at 'bucketshop' brokers, I would consider an account REAL and VERIFIED only if run at a highly regulated mainstream broker. The rest get a HUGE RED FLAG from me.

 You got that right, but poor noobs don't know any better. Especially when they see those amazing results, but all of a sudden it stops.
ScalpingRus
May 12 2015 at 17:24
posts 116
donnhan169 posted:
>95% profitability does existed, check out my system

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/donnhan169/perfectscalper/1224869

 Not to mention that account has not even updated in 24 hours. Pretty safe to say you have margin called it or have a nice drawdown which you want to hide. #SCAMMER
donnhan169
May 13 2015 at 02:44
posts 14
Dude, it makes me wonder if you read other people's post or look carefully before you even replied.

ScalpingRus posted:
Of course you will give us an excuse to why you don't upload a real account, and you are very much here to prove something because you are here pumping your silly ea and promoting your thrashy website at that.

- Dont you even see my answer to @tapper that I do not have the website.

ScalpingRus posted:
Why don't you trade it on your own accounts and show the world how great it is.

- Dont you even see my real account under my profile and my clients account at ICM that I posted.

ScalpingRus posted:
Not to mention that account has not even updated in 24 hours. Pretty safe to say you have margin called it or have a nice drawdown which you want to hide. #SCAMMER

- I dont really know WTH are you talking about here..lol

My time spent enough with you, kids. BYE and good luck with the $400 on your bed.

Here my gifts for you, take it /apply it and be success in life.

- before listen to the others's opinion, one needs to consider if the others are qualify to listen to.
- before even giving advise to the others, one needs to look at themself if they are qualify for.
DonNHAN
ScalpingRus
May 13 2015 at 03:05
posts 116
donnhan169 posted:
Dude, it makes me wonder if you read other people's post or look carefully before you even replied.

ScalpingRus posted:
Of course you will give us an excuse to why you don't upload a real account, and you are very much here to prove something because you are here pumping your silly ea and promoting your thrashy website at that.

- Dont you even see my answer to @tapper that I do not have the website.

ScalpingRus posted:
Why don't you trade it on your own accounts and show the world how great it is.

- Dont you even see my real account under my profile and my clients account at ICM that I posted.

ScalpingRus posted:
Not to mention that account has not even updated in 24 hours. Pretty safe to say you have margin called it or have a nice drawdown which you want to hide. #SCAMMER

- I dont really know WTH are you talking about here..lol

My time spent enough with you, kids. BYE and good luck with the $400 on your bed.

Here my gifts for you, take it /apply it and be success in life.

- before listen to the others's opinion, one needs to consider if the others are qualify to listen to.
- before even giving advise to the others, one needs to look at themself if they are qualify for.
DonNHAN

  You seem to be quoting things which were not even directed towards you. That is very well expected from a person with such a short attention span as your self. As for you not knowing what I am talking about, you had three accounts posted on your profile and you have erased one of them. I wonder how much profit you made in that account, which promoted you to erase it. lmao. Anyway have a wonderful time trading your account, and trying to gain clients with your fake stats and bucket shop broker.
mavericks
May 13 2015 at 10:24
posts 110
theodoros1 posted:
I am watching some of the automated systems with profitability decisions of 95% meaning that 95 of all decisions going long or short was correct. ( example vortex trader pro ). I am wondering how is it possible to get an automated system so accurate ? And If you get it why the owners of it are not ultra billioners ? why people are not following them only instead of making own decsions ?


are those presented systems true ? or they found a way to present a fake true ? do anyone knows something more ?

Most of the times systems that accurate fail in the long run. Beeing accurate at that rate means relatively tiny take profit compared to stop loss.

Iam not saing that those systems are bad or all of them fail.
But most of the time its just a matter of time.
Get investors and get paid 15 percent of theyr profits. More on my website.
ScalpingRus
May 14 2015 at 00:49
posts 116
mavericks posted:
theodoros1 posted:
I am watching some of the automated systems with profitability decisions of 95% meaning that 95 of all decisions going long or short was correct. ( example vortex trader pro ). I am wondering how is it possible to get an automated system so accurate ? And If you get it why the owners of it are not ultra billioners ? why people are not following them only instead of making own decsions ?


are those presented systems true ? or they found a way to present a fake true ? do anyone knows something more ?

Most of the times systems that accurate fail in the long run. Beeing accurate at that rate means relatively tiny take profit compared to stop loss.

Iam not saing that those systems are bad or all of them fail.
But most of the time its just a matter of time.

 I think that one would expect for a system to work in the long haul is what the problem is. It's like marriage... you want your partner to be loyal, but you yourself aren't, but you expect your partner to be. I think we should find managers who can run up an account, withdraw, and repeat. This way you get rid of expectations, which would of course encourage you to withdraw the profits which you have earned.
posisipuncak
May 28 2015 at 11:50
posts 19
FxMasterGuru posted:
Being a victim of two EAs - supported by VERIFIED REAL MyFxBook accounts' results run at 'bucketshop' brokers, I would consider an account REAL and VERIFIED only if run at a highly regulated mainstream broker. The rest get a HUGE RED FLAG from me.

Sure skepticism is good, but he's not the only one getting great results
Alex
Look009
Jun 19 2015 at 13:19
posts 224
ScalpingRus posted:
mavericks posted:
theodoros1 posted:
I am watching some of the automated systems with profitability decisions of 95% meaning that 95 of all decisions going long or short was correct. ( example vortex trader pro ). I am wondering how is it possible to get an automated system so accurate ? And If you get it why the owners of it are not ultra billioners ? why people are not following them only instead of making own decsions ?


are those presented systems true ? or they found a way to present a fake true ? do anyone knows something more ?

Most of the times systems that accurate fail in the long run. Beeing accurate at that rate means relatively tiny take profit compared to stop loss.

Iam not saing that those systems are bad or all of them fail.
But most of the time its just a matter of time.

 I think that one would expect for a system to work in the long haul is what the problem is. It's like marriage... you want your partner to be loyal, but you yourself aren't, but you expect your partner to be. I think we should find managers who can run up an account, withdraw, and repeat. This way you get rid of expectations, which would of course encourage you to withdraw the profits which you have earned.


I agree.
cenetti
Jun 20 2015 at 10:56
posts 9
DD is the most importing parameter on a performance sheet. Trader could have 100000% Gain with 100% win but usually with over 40- 50% DD. That's a disaster waiting to happen.

That's a clear indication that the trader is keeping his losing positions open in a high leverage account. Ask yourself what if the position never comes back.. ? It's game over for everybody.

Low leverage + Low DD + Consistent and steady gain + high win rate = Good trader...
alexforex007
Jun 22 2015 at 04:30
posts 775
You have to run those EAs on live accounts for a few months or even a year to make sure it is really good, but it is interesting to ask why the creators dont use it for their own advantage only? humm.
vontogr (togr)
Jun 22 2015 at 13:12
posts 4862
95% profitability does mean nothing.
Important is DD and profit and pips
KATSUO KEI (KATSUO)
Jun 24 2015 at 14:04
posts 84
togr posted:
95% profitability does mean nothing.
Important is DD and profit and pips

exactly.

good system did not show monthly dd larger than 5% and gain less than monthly drawdown.

in reality if you see monthly stats :
gain 10% and dd 2% (good)
gain 1% and dd 5% (bad)
gain 5000% and dd 50% (bad)
gain 50% and dd 5% (very good system)
KATSUO KEI (KATSUO)
Jun 24 2015 at 14:04
posts 84
theodoros1 posted:
I am watching some of the automated systems with profitability decisions of 95% meaning that 95 of all decisions going long or short was correct. ( example vortex trader pro ). I am wondering how is it possible to get an automated system so accurate ? And If you get it why the owners of it are not ultra billioners ? why people are not following them only instead of making own decsions ?


are those presented systems true ? or they found a way to present a fake true ? do anyone knows something more ?

in your example, their system is high risk. in bad luck, they will get bigger loss than their average gain.
Ivan (StoneHeart)
Jun 24 2015 at 16:06
posts 131
The HIGH % WINNERs is not problem, it is possible.
Problem is even 1% LOSERs ... what to do with them ?
... If you have solution (for some % losers), there is NO PROBLEM !
Ivan (StoneHeart)
Jun 24 2015 at 16:09
posts 131
@KATSUO DD is EXTREMELY dependent by DEPOSIT !!!
If I TEST some new system, I will sure make it on LOW DEPOSIT ==> result is HIGH DD !!

@togr POSITIVE Pips result is definitely GOOD !

... everything else is DEPOSIT !!!
IXBONE
Jun 24 2015 at 21:31
posts 97
there are 2 dd's
dd= magnitude
mdd= duration

if you are 50% in profit and you magnitude to -50%, you are now be, you have lost time but no money!
if you start and reach -50% dd, this indicates a potencial loss IF you close your orders! if you further stay in, no money is lost! and now calc the mdd how long you need to recover from dd -50%, but keep in mind, as long you have not closed your orders, you have not lost any money!!!

as Ivan said Deposit, Deposit..
with 100k, 1k open orders are dd of 1%! with 25k in open orders, now we have 25% dd, which most trader acccept,
so relate you open orders to your deposit!
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