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moutaz (de moutaz )

Ganancia : -50.94%
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Tipo: Demo
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bengates
Nov 03 2010 at 10:04
posts 60

fpuschmann posted:
    
bengates posted:
Then why do you waste your time posting quasi plausible arguments at best and libel at worst on forums if you are happy with your existing broker and never traded with us? I can think of a name for such a phenomena. Hypocrisy?

It´s not your task to decide if I waste my time or not. Most of my time I spend with my family and a very small amount of my time making money with serious forex brokers. I think you spend most of your time, at least during this contest, with hypocrising for your company, which is not bad because it is your job. What I am writing in this forum is my opinion and it matches with the opinion of many forum members of fxbook community, or are there any positive comments about this fxopen contest? If there are some I must have skipped them, sorry. In contrast to you, I am not payed for posts at this great site, so be very careful with such claims as 'Hypocrisy'.

Best Regards

Do you intentionally evade answering my very simple question? How come you have a negative opinion about us without ever trading with us?
I'm afraid the answer is very simple but there is a reason you are avoiding it.
bengates
Nov 03 2010 at 10:06
posts 60

cdrmaster posted:
    I traded with Fxopen and lets make this clear I used to till they cheated me outa money.....anyway here whats happened I traded with a bot when I used fxopened and they have acontest or did if you were in the top 100 trades you got money credited to your account at the end of each month. Well this month they put the money in my account for being in the top 100 and OPPS they put too much in ....another part that needs to be clear the bot runs and I dont have to look after it so them putting money in my account did not change how my bot was running it just kept going make trades and making me money well a few days latter they noticed this mistake they had made .. and not only did they take the money from my account the extra money they had put in .....but on top of taking the extra money they took all the money I made for they trades my bot had done well there extra money was in my account not that it effected my account I did not use there money it was not needed but they said because there money was in my account at the time any trades done well there money was there were considered there money. so they took all the money I made on those trades my bot did plus they took there extra money back and would not answer my emails when I tryed to talk to them ........


But hey there a good broker right....and they fixed there problem ...ie they say they dont steal peoples money 'ANYMORE'...



crdmaster - did you ever contact support or finance and tried to understand what happened? Or did you just start littering on forums without giving the broker time to investigate and get back to you with an answer?

If you are serious about trying to understand the problem please leave your account number and order numbers here or mail it to my mail at cmo {@} fxopen . com and I will see what happened. Otherwise I'll just assume you are another paid forum troll who never had an account with us.
cdrmaster
Nov 03 2010 at 10:26
posts 11
I use a more trusted broker now.. and I already tryed to talk to you guys ..and you blab the same thing ever time email finance department and I did over a year ago now and you still have not responded and the only reason I am posting here is so people can see what you are really like after trying your demo ecn account you dont seem to have changed at all still lots of lag.. problems getting trades in and trades out looks to me like nothing has changed .....and I am not here for you ..or me at this point I am here to help others cause if I can save just one person from the hassel you caused me and a few others who used to trade with you ...then I will be happy ...but it seems I didn't really have to post after I seen a few of the comments on here , but when I saw your comments trying to blame everyone else instead of taking responsibility for your problems I had to post the one bigger problem I had with you guys... and trust me there were many many more problems ...servers freezing so you couldn't take trades out or put trades in ....for hours at a time...and it would happen ever week...really all ppl have to do is look at your forums, of the ppl complaining about the very same thing I am talking about..unless you went threw and deleted them all to try and save face. I dont really have anymore time to waste on you other then posting here, if you truly want to help then go back threw your emails at finance and find my email and respond to it .. even though it has been over a year now it will show that you really do have an interest in what I am saying and you are not just here to troll around....and sorry if there are spelling errors just have a hard time thinking about typeing when I am thinking about how mad I was back then when you cheated me...

oh account numbers just so people know I am telling the truth and to be very aware of these guys ..
Acc #
193122
190091
189791
173965
190522
126834

there 6 account numbers all my accounts and say what you like about how I traded I dont care its not about how much I lost or gained .. even though I am sure most if not all of them ended with more money made then lost.......its about you cheating people..
bengates
Nov 03 2010 at 12:50
posts 60
pasted it again with a quote below
bengates
Nov 03 2010 at 12:50
posts 60

cdrmaster posted:
   
Acc #
193122
190091
189791
173965
190522
126834

there 6 account numbers all my accounts and say what you like about how I traded I dont care its not about how much I lost or gained .. even though I am sure most if not all of them ended with more money made then lost.......its about you cheating people..

I have pulled all of your accounts statements and the result is quite interesting.

You had 5 micro accounts and one standard.

The bonus you are mentioning is $10 for being in the top 100. It was credited to you 30 times (including 5 times two bonuses) for your trading out of which 5 times the bonus was removed due to a double crediting error. Not to mention the $25 welcome bonus on each account which you received but surprisingly wasn't 'stolen'.

In one of the accounts you were churning therefore $1.58 were deducted...

All in all you had a tiny deposit in all of these 6 accounts combined and you lost it due to your Martingale trading style.

Now, in order to make sure you and the audience reading this are fully satisfied, would you mind if I published your full trading statements for all the accounts? I'm sure you wouldn't mind that as you are absolutely confident that money was 'stolen' from you and not that your trading style sucks?

You wouldn't also mind telling us why were you caught churning and why you lied by saying that we removed not only the bonus but earnings too?
bengates
Nov 03 2010 at 12:57
posts 60

positiveday posted:

'Perfect work' in demo account, specially for a contest, is the 'entry level' for a broker service, not the top level.
You, before, wrote about problems only on this demo contest group, now you write there was problems on all ECN demo.
I have write nothing about honesty of FxOpen as broker, sound strange and out of topic your words about 'integrity' and honesty....
Many thanks anyway, now that I have tasted the public relations of FxOpen I have lost any little idea to open an account with this broker.

Yes, after we verified this we understood that this affected all demo accounts not just of this group as we initially thought. That's again us coming forward and acknowledging errors.

Anyways, please all refer to this thread to see accounts that complained and were dealt with. Anyone with complaints and not on that list is welcomed to contact me.
https://www.myfxbook.com/community/general/fxopen-contest-november-2010/63460,1
Forex Anadova
Forexanadova
Nov 03 2010 at 15:14
posts 186
My humble opinion. I believe it is in the broker best interest that the trader succeeds as they make commission on them, unless there is a dealing desk involved. Bad brokers, no, bad systems, platform, customer service,etc yes.I have gone thru several brokers and the only one that does not care about the customer making money is Oanda. Just my 10 cents.
bengates
Nov 03 2010 at 16:36
posts 60
Agreed. This is why we invested so much effort, time and money in our own ECN bridge and there are more surprises on the way ;)

Having said that, if Oanda works for you, then we wish you best of luck trading with them humbly hoping that when considering additional broker you'll give our ECN a try on live accounts.
Forex Anadova
Forexanadova
Nov 03 2010 at 17:17
posts 186
No, Oanda DID NOT work for me, I think you understood wrong quote'....the only one that DOES NOT CARE about the customer making money is Oanda.......'unquote.
cdrmaster
Nov 03 2010 at 20:44
posts 11
well there you go again blameing the customer .. people can look at the accounts all they want they are not going to see anything....you made sure of that when you guys took the extra money you put in and my trades back that my bot had done you deleted it right outa the statement so there was no proof ....humm if you will go this far just over a few bucks it makes people wonder...thats why I left and the people I brought there left ...and the so called churning joke...which is what it is a big joke.. I refer my brother from califorina ( United Sates) different address different ip ..oh and different name..heck he live in a different country, as I live in Canada with my name and different ip and different address..and you call that churning give me a break we live in 2 different countrys what do I run back and forth to do trades..all it would of took there was some common sence. The only way people will find what you did my account is if they know that the bot ran from sunyday open to thursday at 1-2am ..then they have to look for the gap in the statment where you deleted my trades out and took the money they made, you will always have a leg to stand on to say it never happened ... and that is why I am assuming you deleted it right outa my statment so you would....but like I said people can already see what you are like..so me saying this is just reinforceing what most already know...and as far as my tradeing goes like I said you can say what you want but the thousands I made well testing a bot was good for me was not in it for the money at the time....oh and let me do your next post for you cause we all know what your gonna say ...

'we can't edit your statment , your just saying all this because you are a payed trolll.'

But the truth is there weather fxopen wants to admit it or not really I dont care dont deal with you and the people I told they should deal with you came and saw what you did as well and they knew because they were useing the same bot and could see the missing trades. Now people know about my deals with your so called brokerage and if you want to throw things out there why dont you tell the people why you were suspened from trading..??


'Anyone know why FXOpen have had their license suspended? all i see is ...........
the Chief Executive of the Commission having reason to believe that the above companies are carrying or are likely to carry out activities that may cause serious prejudice to the reputation of Mauritius has, in accordance with Section 75(2) of the Financial Services Act, ordered an inquiry into the activities of the above companies.
the Chief Executive of the Commission has, in accordance with Section 44(1) of the Financial Services Act, ordered that an investigation be conducted into the business of the above companies.'

we wont mention any of the other brokarges because I dont know if they really cheat people..

bengates
Nov 04 2010 at 05:26
posts 60

cdrmaster posted:
    well there you go again blameing the customer .. people can look at the accounts all they want they are not going to see anything....you made sure of that when you guys took the extra money you put in and my trades back that my bot had done you deleted it right outa the statement so there was no proof ....humm if you will go this far just over a few bucks it makes people wonder...thats why I left and the people I brought there left ...and the so called churning joke...which is what it is a big joke.. I refer my brother from califorina ( United Sates) different address different ip ..oh and different name..heck he live in a different country, as I live in Canada with my name and different ip and different address..and you call that churning give me a break we live in 2 different countrys what do I run back and forth to do trades..all it would of took there was some common sence. The only way people will find what you did my account is if they know that the bot ran from sunyday open to thursday at 1-2am ..then they have to look for the gap in the statment where you deleted my trades out and took the money they made, you will always have a leg to stand on to say it never happened ... and that is why I am assuming you deleted it right outa my statment so you would....but like I said people can already see what you are like..so me saying this is just reinforceing what most already know...and as far as my tradeing goes like I said you can say what you want but the thousands I made well testing a bot was good for me was not in it for the money at the time....oh and let me do your next post for you cause we all know what your gonna say ...

'we can't edit your statment , your just saying all this because you are a payed trolll.'

But the truth is there weather fxopen wants to admit it or not really I dont care dont deal with you and the people I told they should deal with you came and saw what you did as well and they knew because they were useing the same bot and could see the missing trades. Now people know about my deals with your so called brokerage and if you want to throw things out there why dont you tell the people why you were suspened from trading..??


'Anyone know why FXOpen have had their license suspended? all i see is ...........
the Chief Executive of the Commission having reason to believe that the above companies are carrying or are likely to carry out activities that may cause serious prejudice to the reputation of Mauritius has, in accordance with Section 75(2) of the Financial Services Act, ordered an inquiry into the activities of the above companies.
the Chief Executive of the Commission has, in accordance with Section 44(1) of the Financial Services Act, ordered that an investigation be conducted into the business of the above companies.'

we wont mention any of the other brokarges because I dont know if they really cheat people..



This is pathetic. 'well there you go again blameing the customer' - well there you go again blaming the broker for your own losses.

'I wasn't churning, it was my brother' - It the first time I hear this excuse, really.

And as for you repeated claims of fraud - a homeless guy would make more money in an hour beginning for change than what a broker would make by 'stealing' the tiny balance you had. How do you honestly expect anyone to believe that any broker would go after such an amount and risk its credibility? I can believe that a dirty broker can go after a few million dollars accounts, just as allegedly one Swiss broker did couple of years ago, but for what you had?
You had insufficient funds for your highly risky Martingale trading strategy. Your bluff was just called out as you didn't agree to have your statements published here. And as a preparation for the them being published of course you would claim that statements were cooked.
Did you save your own statements? If so, perhaps you care to share and we can 'compare'?

Regarding FSC:
We know not much more than you do. We received no evidence, there was no investigation nor even a hearing. We, and 4-5 other forex firms, had our license suspended suddenly, without any warning and without any chance to defend our claims.

Unfortunately FSC doesn't work like FSA, NFA or ASIC. Have you heard about the FSC ever fining any broker? Me neither. They just decided one day to revoke 5 forex firm licenses and that's it. In any other jurisdiction if there was an actual case we would have a chance to defend our position and mostly likely this matter would have ended with a slap on a wrist.

Regarding other brokers, there's nothing much I'm going to add except that you can go to all big regulators websites and see that almost all forex brokers were at some point in time charged with pretty severe accounts of wrongdoing such as insufficient AML procedures, using virtual dealer plugin, deceiving and defrauding customers and more.
Whatever the FSC thinks we did, and again we have no idea what actually happened, I doubt if it would ever amount to any of the aforementioned charged yet in all these cases it ended with either a warning or a fine.
moutaz
Nov 05 2010 at 12:59
posts 63
then try if you dare to
to get under a real regulatoin authority like bfa or fsa

but i'm sure that's not what you eant or you can handle
because you'll be fined and thrown out within few days
bengates
Nov 08 2010 at 19:07
posts 60
I'll make sure you are the first to know if and when we do.
moutaz
Nov 09 2010 at 13:14
posts 63
<a href='' target='_blank'><img src=''/></a>here is a good proof of the great system and the super execution of fxopen

i'll let the picture speak for itself

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moutaz
Nov 09 2010 at 13:17
posts 63
<a href='' target='_blank'><img src=''/></a>ooops

do not forget the other pending order


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moutaz
Nov 09 2010 at 13:41
posts 63
<a href='' target='_blank'><img src=''/></a>here we go again
i think the dealing desk is so busy in their lunch break

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positiveday
Nov 09 2010 at 16:31
posts 51
The working execution of ECN contest account is today a total bullshit.
Pending orders not filled at the right moment but with HOURS of delay.
Also the arrogance of this bengates is very impressive.
A normal seriuos broker should say only : sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry .... etc. sorry.
moutaz
Nov 09 2010 at 16:56
posts 63
then the super bengates tells us that we're making up excuses because we lost

i feel sad for the real account holders
moutaz
Nov 09 2010 at 17:00
posts 63
<a href='' target='_blank'><img src=''/></a>i really wonder what kind of excuse would he tell us now

as for me i have a pending order which was supposed to be filled and now it reached it's target

and again he'll tell us that the broker is super natural but we like to blame others

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bengates
Nov 09 2010 at 21:20
posts 60

positiveday posted:
    The working execution of ECN contest account is today a total bullshit.
Pending orders not filled at the right moment but with HOURS of delay.
Also the arrogance of this bengates is very impressive.
A normal seriuos broker should say only : sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry .... etc. sorry.

Hello positiveday (not very positive today though..),

Do you have an account with us? If so what is the number and what are the orders that were delayed according to you?
Don't tell me you are another troll with no account with us who just uses this thread to have a go at us?

Cheers,
Ben
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