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तबसे मेंबर है Nov 15, 2012
21 पोस्टों
Apr 30, 2015 at 06:29
REV Ea has been a big big waste.
I think Doug knew the EA would fail at a short time period, hence abandoning it, to sell other scam products.
I would advise everyone and anyone to stay clear of anything from this guy, as all he is after is selling loads of crap
that would never make you money in your Live account.
His products only make money on his Synergy Live account.
I wasted money buying Rev & Vortex EA, so I know what am saying.
Doug Price is a scam
I think Doug knew the EA would fail at a short time period, hence abandoning it, to sell other scam products.
I would advise everyone and anyone to stay clear of anything from this guy, as all he is after is selling loads of crap
that would never make you money in your Live account.
His products only make money on his Synergy Live account.
I wasted money buying Rev & Vortex EA, so I know what am saying.
Doug Price is a scam
तबसे मेंबर है May 20, 2011
694 पोस्टों
Apr 30, 2015 at 10:52
(एडिट हो रहा है Apr 30, 2015 at 10:52)
ralphbayo posted:DUDE quite complaining already and move on! ITS not this or any of XC systems are bad EA. What makes an EA profitable is market conditions and REV trader is meant for trending markets which if you haven't noticed we ARE NOT in anymore. When there was the USD strength due to pricing in of subsequent rate hikes, that was great conditions for a trend. Or when JPY did QE, that is a great trend. Enough of this , move on if you don't like it. I Have made my money back and then some with this and kept it all.
REV Ea has been a big big waste.
I think Doug knew the EA would fail at a short time period, hence abandoning it, to sell other scam products.
I would advise everyone and anyone to stay clear of anything from this guy, as all he is after is selling loads of crap
that would never make you money in your Live account.
His products only make money on his Synergy Live account.
I wasted money buying Rev & Vortex EA, so I know what am saying.
Doug Price is a scam
तबसे मेंबर है Nov 25, 2014
13 पोस्टों
Apr 30, 2015 at 14:15
FXtrader2010 posted:ralphbayo posted:DUDE quite complaining already and move on! ITS not this or any of XC systems are bad EA. What makes an EA profitable is market conditions and REV trader is meant for trending markets which if you haven't noticed we ARE NOT in anymore. When there was the USD strength due to pricing in of subsequent rate hikes, that was great conditions for a trend. Or when JPY did QE, that is a great trend. Enough of this , move on if you don't like it. I Have made my money back and then some with this and kept it all.
REV Ea has been a big big waste.
I think Doug knew the EA would fail at a short time period, hence abandoning it, to sell other scam products.
I would advise everyone and anyone to stay clear of anything from this guy, as all he is after is selling loads of crap
that would never make you money in your Live account.
His products only make money on his Synergy Live account.
I wasted money buying Rev & Vortex EA, so I know what am saying.
Doug Price is a scam
FXtrader2010, if you have been fortunate enough to make your money back "and then some" as you put it, then good for you. For the vast majority of us who have lost money with this EA we will eventually move on but not before we express to Doug how we feel about spending this much money for an EA only to have it completely lose our deposits. One of the purposes of forums like this is to share our results, the good, the bad & the ugly. The messages others as well as myself have left are not only directed towards Doug but also towards others who would be interested in buying this EA. Personally, I don't want to see anyone experience what I and others have. It's true that complaining won't get our money back, but it certainly will send a message to Doug and others like him to let them know that it's OK if you want to charge high prices for your EA's, but if they don't work your reputation can easily be ruined. I think what really upset most people like myself is not just that the robot failed but that he kept introducing new robots even more expensive that appeared to have decent results. The technology that he placed in Pivot Trader and Vortex easily could have been added to Rev Trader. This is part of the "updates" I thought I was purchasing. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with those who would like to vent for a while and express their displeasure with a product after losing so much money. While they are doing that you can continue to enjoy the money you've made back and then some and be happy. The big lesson for all of us here is that by and large EA's in the long run simply don't work as most professional Forex traders will tell you. You may make some money for a season but eventually they will cease to perform. This is certainly a lesson I have learned the hard way and hope that others will too.
Go where you are celebrated, not where you are tolerated!
तबसे मेंबर है Feb 14, 2015
74 पोस्टों
Apr 30, 2015 at 16:32
Knight2000 posted:FXtrader2010 posted:ralphbayo posted:DUDE quite complaining already and move on! ITS not this or any of XC systems are bad EA. What makes an EA profitable is market conditions and REV trader is meant for trending markets which if you haven't noticed we ARE NOT in anymore. When there was the USD strength due to pricing in of subsequent rate hikes, that was great conditions for a trend. Or when JPY did QE, that is a great trend. Enough of this , move on if you don't like it. I Have made my money back and then some with this and kept it all.
REV Ea has been a big big waste.
I think Doug knew the EA would fail at a short time period, hence abandoning it, to sell other scam products.
I would advise everyone and anyone to stay clear of anything from this guy, as all he is after is selling loads of crap
that would never make you money in your Live account.
His products only make money on his Synergy Live account.
I wasted money buying Rev & Vortex EA, so I know what am saying.
Doug Price is a scam
FXtrader2010, if you have been fortunate enough to make your money back "and then some" as you put it, then good for you. For the vast majority of us who have lost money with this EA we will eventually move on but not before we express to Doug how we feel about spending this much money for an EA only to have it completely lose our deposits. One of the purposes of forums like this is to share our results, the good, the bad & the ugly. The messages others as well as myself have left are not only directed towards Doug but also towards others who would be interested in buying this EA. Personally, I don't want to see anyone experience what I and others have. It's true that complaining won't get our money back, but it certainly will send a message to Doug and others like him to let them know that it's OK if you want to charge high prices for your EA's, but if they don't work your reputation can easily be ruined. I think what really upset most people like myself is not just that the robot failed but that he kept introducing new robots even more expensive that appeared to have decent results. The technology that he placed in Pivot Trader and Vortex easily could have been added to Rev Trader. This is part of the "updates" I thought I was purchasing. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with those who would like to vent for a while and express their displeasure with a product after losing so much money. While they are doing that you can continue to enjoy the money you've made back and then some and be happy. The big lesson for all of us here is that by and large EA's in the long run simply don't work as most professional Forex traders will tell you. You may make some money for a season but eventually they will cease to perform. This is certainly a lesson I have learned the hard way and hope that others will too.
Can't agree you more, for a high price EA, and being promised that the EA will be upgrade life time to ensure the profit. Now RTP is losing money for months, while his other product making money. If RTP was the only product Doug has and he tried his best to fix, then I know he did tried to keep his promise. But Doug knows how to fix it for sure but he chose not going to, that really upset me. I also purchased the RTP after Christmas 2014, losing big money and the money on RTP.
तबसे मेंबर है Jan 05, 2015
145 पोस्टों
Apr 30, 2015 at 21:14
Have any of you heard or tried this one? Good price right now it appears?
Not my affiliate link, just want to know unbiased review...
Not my affiliate link, just want to know unbiased review...
तबसे मेंबर है May 10, 2011
193 पोस्टों
May 02, 2015 at 00:15
I've been away from watching rtp or Vortex for awhile, but with Gwindy losing completely due to Vortex and RTP not in market it desires, is there anything good here anymore?
don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
तबसे मेंबर है Jan 05, 2015
145 पोस्टों
May 02, 2015 at 20:57
Batcheler posted:
I've been away from watching rtp or Vortex for awhile, but with Gwindy losing completely due to Vortex and RTP not in market it desires, is there anything good here anymore?
I have RTP set at .01 lot for now until hopefully recovers someday and using Forex Flex's new V2Default setting.
I also still run Keltner Pro & Megadroid of course.
तबसे मेंबर है Apr 30, 2011
39 पोस्टों
May 03, 2015 at 06:23
fxdummy wrote"But Doug knows how to fix it for sure but he chose not going to, that really upset me."
What else is known for sure?
What else is known for sure?
forex_trader_236107
तबसे मेंबर है Mar 10, 2015
88 पोस्टों
May 03, 2015 at 14:28
The sad part is that a person would even "buy" an EA. If it works, why sell it?
तबसे मेंबर है May 10, 2011
193 पोस्टों
May 03, 2015 at 15:10
There is reasoning to sell an EA.....the sales pads ones own acct to make larger lots gains with it. You can see rtp ain't doing too shabby for himself overall, despite it for a recent period not too well. Albeit, he hadn't personally used sales money to continue depositing.....maybe he used such for Vortex.
don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
तबसे मेंबर है Jan 05, 2015
145 पोस्टों
May 03, 2015 at 21:10
ScalpingRus posted:
The sad part is that a person would even "buy" an EA. If it works, why sell it?
Nonsense!
May 03, 2015 at 22:27
(एडिट हो रहा है May 03, 2015 at 22:37)
Hello fellow traders, I hardly give comments in forums but, I am compelled to share your grief on the failure of the RTP.
It is true that EAs fail over time, BUT NOT ALL. Having said that, it is good to note that there are two basic types of EAs;
Trend-traders and Range-traders.
The Trend-trading EAs will make you smile during days of trending markets while the range traders will grab you pips in sideways
markets.
The ultimate problem with EAs is that most of them lack the design to detect change in favourable market conditions in order to either change strategy or steer clear from the markets.
And once an EA cannot achieve this, it is bound to fail.
It is a very difficult task to create such an EA with that kind of dynamism.
Fact; For an EA to be profitable and stand the test of time, it must handle both major conditions mentioned above.
Fact; To ensure profitability over time, each profitable trade must make up for at least two lost trades.
Truth is there are well designed EAs out there that have been tested overtime.
Truth is also that these kind of EAs never go on sale.
Come to think of it, why would an EA go on sale when it can ultimately generate endless profits of real money from the Trillions
dollar market?
I happened to be in possession of one of such, but my organization had it protected as an intellectual property with lots of patents
and copyrights. So there was no way I could use, share or sell it because I couldn't even lay my hands on the source codes.
Besides, it would've been going against my company's rules which is illegal.
When I resigned from the firm to establish on my own, I could only replicate the EA's strategies manually having spent a very longtime watching and monitoring it on our secured server where only authorized personnel is allowed.
Unfortunately, I wasn't good in online forex, so I never trade manually. I am fairly good with programming so I have gone back to study the world of forex better so I can learn the best way to produce that kind of EA.
So what I can give to you my fellow traders from my 8 years of experience is just advice.
Try to understand the trading style of a system before
acquiring it.
Be it an EA, a mechanical system, indicator trading or a strictly manual strategy..., just make sure you find out their weaknesses before getting it to handle your real funds.
Check for the profit-loss ratio..., if it's not a case of 1 profit covers 2 losses at least, then constant losses will wipe out your balance over time. One of the best features of the EA my firm used was that it had tight stop losses and then lets the profits run, this ultimately kept the drawdown very low below 15% which is very safe. In the stead of taking any small perceived profit and leaving losses to run hoping it'll eventually lead to profits. This is a major weakness in trading strategies, be it with EA or manually.
Any system that employs such profit-loss strategy can never be self sustainable.
Wish you all more pips as you embark on the journey to recover all that you've ever lost since you discovered the holy grail of money making, FOREX!
Cheers to All
It is true that EAs fail over time, BUT NOT ALL. Having said that, it is good to note that there are two basic types of EAs;
Trend-traders and Range-traders.
The Trend-trading EAs will make you smile during days of trending markets while the range traders will grab you pips in sideways
markets.
The ultimate problem with EAs is that most of them lack the design to detect change in favourable market conditions in order to either change strategy or steer clear from the markets.
And once an EA cannot achieve this, it is bound to fail.
It is a very difficult task to create such an EA with that kind of dynamism.
Fact; For an EA to be profitable and stand the test of time, it must handle both major conditions mentioned above.
Fact; To ensure profitability over time, each profitable trade must make up for at least two lost trades.
Truth is there are well designed EAs out there that have been tested overtime.
Truth is also that these kind of EAs never go on sale.
Come to think of it, why would an EA go on sale when it can ultimately generate endless profits of real money from the Trillions
dollar market?
I happened to be in possession of one of such, but my organization had it protected as an intellectual property with lots of patents
and copyrights. So there was no way I could use, share or sell it because I couldn't even lay my hands on the source codes.
Besides, it would've been going against my company's rules which is illegal.
When I resigned from the firm to establish on my own, I could only replicate the EA's strategies manually having spent a very longtime watching and monitoring it on our secured server where only authorized personnel is allowed.
Unfortunately, I wasn't good in online forex, so I never trade manually. I am fairly good with programming so I have gone back to study the world of forex better so I can learn the best way to produce that kind of EA.
So what I can give to you my fellow traders from my 8 years of experience is just advice.
Try to understand the trading style of a system before
acquiring it.
Be it an EA, a mechanical system, indicator trading or a strictly manual strategy..., just make sure you find out their weaknesses before getting it to handle your real funds.
Check for the profit-loss ratio..., if it's not a case of 1 profit covers 2 losses at least, then constant losses will wipe out your balance over time. One of the best features of the EA my firm used was that it had tight stop losses and then lets the profits run, this ultimately kept the drawdown very low below 15% which is very safe. In the stead of taking any small perceived profit and leaving losses to run hoping it'll eventually lead to profits. This is a major weakness in trading strategies, be it with EA or manually.
Any system that employs such profit-loss strategy can never be self sustainable.
Wish you all more pips as you embark on the journey to recover all that you've ever lost since you discovered the holy grail of money making, FOREX!
Cheers to All
Knowledge is Strenght
तबसे मेंबर है May 10, 2011
193 पोस्टों
May 03, 2015 at 22:51
Sectors posted:
Hello fellow traders, I hardly give comments in forums but, I am compelled to share your grief on the failure of the RTP.
It is true that EAs fail over time, BUT NOT ALL. Having said that, it is good to note that there are two basic types of EAs;
Trend-traders and Range-traders.
The Trend-trading EAs will make you smile during days of trending markets while the range traders will grab you pips in sideways
markets.
The ultimate problem with EAs is that most of them lack the design to detect change in favourable market conditions in order to either change strategy or steer clear from the markets.
And once an EA cannot achieve this, it is bound to fail.
It is a very difficult task to create such an EA with that kind of dynamism.
Fact; For an EA to be profitable and stand the test of time, it must handle both major conditions mentioned above.
Fact; To ensure profitability over time, each profitable trade must make up for at least two lost trades.
Truth is there are well designed EAs out there that have been tested overtime.
Truth is also that these kind of EAs never go on sale.
Come to think of it, why would an EA go on sale when it can ultimately generate endless profits of real money from the Trillions
dollar market?
I happened to be in possession of one of such, but my organization had it protected as an intellectual property with lots of patents
and copyrights. So there was no way I could use, share or sell it because I couldn't even lay my hands on the source codes.
Besides, it would've been going against my company's rules which is illegal.
When I resigned from the firm to establish on my own, I could only replicate the EA's strategies manually having spent a very longtime watching and monitoring it on our secured server where only authorized personnel is allowed.
Unfortunately, I wasn't good in online forex, so I never trade manually. I am fairly good with programming so I have gone back to study the world of forex better so I can learn the best way to produce that kind of EA.
So what I can give to you my fellow traders from my 8 years of experience is just advice.
Try to understand the trading style of a system before
acquiring it.
Be it an EA, a mechanical system, indicator trading or a strictly manual strategy..., just make sure you find out their weaknesses before getting it to handle your real funds.
Check for the profit-loss ratio..., if it's not a case of 1 profit covers 2 losses at least, then constant losses will wipe out your balance over time. One of the best features of the EA my firm used was that it had tight stop losses and then lets the profits run, in the stead of taking any small perceived profit and leaving losses to run hoping it'll eventually lead to profits. This is a major weakness in trading strategies, be it with EA or manually.
Any system that employs such profit-loss strategy can never be self sustainable.
Wish you all more pips as you embark on the journey to recover all that you've ever lost since you discovered the holy grail of money making, FOREX!
Cheers to All
Amen to all that Sectors, thus I'm in bleachers for years.
There is one exception to not being sold, but a very expensive exception: TSL (http://tradingsystemslab.com/), but its for fund managers that can afford $20,000/yr, it uses rmltech.com ("Discipulus"), about as close to a holy grail resolving software as can be had, it truly can find solution to correct for market change; I played with it over half dozen years ago and was blown away at its quick zoom-in on the most robust solutions, albeit it was unprotected back then and I had no funds to develop beyond playing with it.....but thats when an amateur could pay his $200 for a year and play with it, now, for one output C++ solution its $4,000, 101 of them for $6,000. Doable for that many EAs, but Frank deals only personally with companies, and due to his deals with TSL it isn't anymore market prediction outfits, so the miracle Discipulus is out of us little guys hands.....money begets money era. Just as another example as Spector told of re: market addressing trading strategies not availed publically. Just thought y'all would enjoy further on this tale of woes.
don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
तबसे मेंबर है May 10, 2011
193 पोस्टों
May 03, 2015 at 23:41
What a coincidence, over on my StrategyQuant.com forum (private) I was countered re: Discipulus with this post:
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Batch,
geektrader (http://www.strategyquant.com/forum/user/7701-geektrader/) has just posted a reply to a topic that you have subscribed to titled "Making RT objective".
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I only get some gist of it, but mabe some software mql/dll/C++ geek can help us get somewhere with this.
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I´d rather recommend something like CMA-ES from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMA-ES. AmiBroker is using is and I have tested it there and was very much blown away by the time it takes to find a solution to even the most complex problems (in about 500 to 900 optimizations steps only!), even if using small step sizes (this algo is not affected by step-size at all). From AmiBroker manual:
CMA-ES - Covariance Matrix Adaptation Evolutionary Strategy optimizer
CMA-ES (Covariance Matrix Adaptation Evolutionary Strategy) is advanced non-exhaustive optimizer.
According to scientific benchmarks outperforms nine other, most popular evolutionary strategies (like PSO, Genetic and Differential evolution).
The CMAE.DLL plugin implements "Global" variant of search with several restarts with increasing population size
CMAE.DLL comes with full source code (inside "ADK" folder)
By default number of runs (or restarts) is set to 5.
It is advised to leave the default number of restarts.
You may vary it using OptimizerSetOption("Runs", N ) call, where N should be in range 1..10.
Specifying more than 10 runs is not recommended, although possible.
Note that each run uses TWICE the size of population of previous run so it grows exponentially.
Therefore with 10 runs you end up with population 2^10 greater (1024 times) than the first run.
There is another parameter "MaxEval". The default value is ZERO which means that plugin will automatically calculate MaxEval required. It is advised to NOT to define MaxEval by yourself as default works fine.
The algorithm is smart enough to minimize the number of evaluations required and it converges very fast to solution point, so often it finds solutions faster than other strategies.
It is normal that the plugin will skip some evaluations steps, if it detects that solution was found, therefore you should not be surprised that optimization progress bar may move very fast at some points. The plugin also has ability to increase number of steps over initially estimated value if it is needed to find the solution. Due to its adaptive nature, the "estimated time left" and/or "number of steps" displayed by the progress dialog is only "best guess at the time" and may vary during optimization course.
To use CMA-ES optimizer, you just need to add one line to your code:
OptimizerSetEngine("cmae");
This will run the optimization with default settings which are fine for most cases.
It should be noted, as it is the case with many continouos-space search algorithms, that decreasing "step" parameter in Optimize() funciton calls does not significantly affect optimization times. The only thing that matters is the problem "dimension", i.e. the number of different parameters (number of optimize function calls). The number of "steps" per parameter can be set without affecting the optimization time, so use the finest resolution you want. In theory the algorithm should be able to find solution in at most 900*(N+3)*(N+3) backtests where "N" is the dimension. In practice it converges a LOT faster. For example the solution in 3 (N=3) dimensional parameter space (say 100*100*100 = 1 million exhaustive steps) can be found in as few as 500-900 CMA-ES steps.
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--------
Batch,
geektrader (http://www.strategyquant.com/forum/user/7701-geektrader/) has just posted a reply to a topic that you have subscribed to titled "Making RT objective".
---------------
I only get some gist of it, but mabe some software mql/dll/C++ geek can help us get somewhere with this.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I´d rather recommend something like CMA-ES from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMA-ES. AmiBroker is using is and I have tested it there and was very much blown away by the time it takes to find a solution to even the most complex problems (in about 500 to 900 optimizations steps only!), even if using small step sizes (this algo is not affected by step-size at all). From AmiBroker manual:
CMA-ES - Covariance Matrix Adaptation Evolutionary Strategy optimizer
CMA-ES (Covariance Matrix Adaptation Evolutionary Strategy) is advanced non-exhaustive optimizer.
According to scientific benchmarks outperforms nine other, most popular evolutionary strategies (like PSO, Genetic and Differential evolution).
The CMAE.DLL plugin implements "Global" variant of search with several restarts with increasing population size
CMAE.DLL comes with full source code (inside "ADK" folder)
By default number of runs (or restarts) is set to 5.
It is advised to leave the default number of restarts.
You may vary it using OptimizerSetOption("Runs", N ) call, where N should be in range 1..10.
Specifying more than 10 runs is not recommended, although possible.
Note that each run uses TWICE the size of population of previous run so it grows exponentially.
Therefore with 10 runs you end up with population 2^10 greater (1024 times) than the first run.
There is another parameter "MaxEval". The default value is ZERO which means that plugin will automatically calculate MaxEval required. It is advised to NOT to define MaxEval by yourself as default works fine.
The algorithm is smart enough to minimize the number of evaluations required and it converges very fast to solution point, so often it finds solutions faster than other strategies.
It is normal that the plugin will skip some evaluations steps, if it detects that solution was found, therefore you should not be surprised that optimization progress bar may move very fast at some points. The plugin also has ability to increase number of steps over initially estimated value if it is needed to find the solution. Due to its adaptive nature, the "estimated time left" and/or "number of steps" displayed by the progress dialog is only "best guess at the time" and may vary during optimization course.
To use CMA-ES optimizer, you just need to add one line to your code:
OptimizerSetEngine("cmae");
This will run the optimization with default settings which are fine for most cases.
It should be noted, as it is the case with many continouos-space search algorithms, that decreasing "step" parameter in Optimize() funciton calls does not significantly affect optimization times. The only thing that matters is the problem "dimension", i.e. the number of different parameters (number of optimize function calls). The number of "steps" per parameter can be set without affecting the optimization time, so use the finest resolution you want. In theory the algorithm should be able to find solution in at most 900*(N+3)*(N+3) backtests where "N" is the dimension. In practice it converges a LOT faster. For example the solution in 3 (N=3) dimensional parameter space (say 100*100*100 = 1 million exhaustive steps) can be found in as few as 500-900 CMA-ES steps.
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don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
forex_trader_236107
तबसे मेंबर है Mar 10, 2015
88 पोस्टों
May 04, 2015 at 03:47
bigtraderapp posted:ScalpingRus posted:
The sad part is that a person would even "buy" an EA. If it works, why sell it?
Nonsense!
If you think selling an EA is a good business model then please get your brain checked out.
तबसे मेंबर है Jan 05, 2015
145 पोस्टों
May 04, 2015 at 03:52
ScalpingRus posted:bigtraderapp posted:ScalpingRus posted:
The sad part is that a person would even "buy" an EA. If it works, why sell it?
Nonsense!
If you think selling an EA is a good business model then please get your brain checked out.
What a maroon!
forex_trader_236107
तबसे मेंबर है Mar 10, 2015
88 पोस्टों
May 04, 2015 at 10:17
bigtraderapp posted:ScalpingRus posted:bigtraderapp posted:ScalpingRus posted:
The sad part is that a person would even "buy" an EA. If it works, why sell it?
Nonsense!
If you think selling an EA is a good business model then please get your brain checked out.
What a maroon!
I also have a bridge for sell.
तबसे मेंबर है Jan 05, 2015
145 पोस्टों
May 04, 2015 at 17:21
ScalpingRus posted:bigtraderapp posted:ScalpingRus posted:bigtraderapp posted:ScalpingRus posted:
The sad part is that a person would even "buy" an EA. If it works, why sell it?
Nonsense!
If you think selling an EA is a good business model then please get your brain checked out.
What a maroon!
I also have a bridge for sell.
😁
तबसे मेंबर है May 10, 2011
193 पोस्टों
May 04, 2015 at 18:03
bigtraderapp posted:ScalpingRus posted:bigtraderapp posted:ScalpingRus posted:bigtraderapp posted:ScalpingRus posted:
The sad part is that a person would even "buy" an EA. If it works, why sell it?
Nonsense!
If you think selling an EA is a good business model then please get your brain checked out.
What a maroon!
I also have a bridge for sell.
😁
Are we quite done youngins? Lol.
don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
तबसे मेंबर है Jan 05, 2015
145 पोस्टों
May 07, 2015 at 00:17
finally a few winners! Let's keep it up!
