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scalpguy

Ahli sejak Oct 27, 2009 15 hantaran

Dec 15, 2009 at 03:23 (disunting Dec 15, 2009 at 03:28)

Ahli sejak Oct 27, 2009 15 hantaran

HOW BIG IS THE DRAWDOWN is everything (which is calculated from the open positions) and then comes the gain.

Which one?

a) 800% gain, 80% drawdown
b) 80% gain, 8% drawdown

System works 8mo well and then comes the drawdown mo. In case A you will loose 80% of your accumulated equity when in case B you loose only 8%.

Think about it.

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Show your open positions and we will stop whining ;)

SG

btw. this can be solved manually by going through the trades and checking what the price did during the positions, but I am not going to do this because I am not interested enough...

Pippen

Ahli sejak Dec 15, 2009 1 hantaran

Dec 15, 2009 at 15:33

Ahli sejak Dec 15, 2009 1 hantaran

Great work Bored(Y). What's the basics behind your method?

Do not believe in anything because it is spoken and rumored by many.

bored

Ahli sejak Nov 21, 2009 17 hantaran

Dec 15, 2009 at 15:59

Ahli sejak Nov 21, 2009 17 hantaran

60% technical + 30% fundamental +10% my opinion .

Supranium

Ahli sejak Nov 05, 2009 76 hantaran

Dec 15, 2009 at 20:33 (disunting Dec 15, 2009 at 20:37)

Ahli sejak Nov 05, 2009 76 hantaran

theM1G posted:

scalpguy posted:
Automated or not. 50% loss is a HUGE. It is gambling not trading.

Where do you see this "50% loss" you mention?

There is none. Just equity on 50%. That not a loss.

Impressive win rate. This 50% equity makes me a little bit suspicious aswell...

sipekan

Ahli sejak Dec 18, 2009 3 hantaran

Dec 18, 2009 at 17:12

Ahli sejak Dec 18, 2009 3 hantaran

Hi,

How old are you? With that much trades per day, you must be in your eighteen. Lol...

Keep it up, dude!

shayne72

Ahli sejak Dec 19, 2009 1 hantaran

Dec 19, 2009 at 12:15

Ahli sejak Dec 19, 2009 1 hantaran

he is buying before price goes up and selling before the price goes down. that is his system hehe :)

forex_trader_98

Ahli sejak Aug 13, 2009 45 hantaran

Dec 19, 2009 at 15:45

Ahli sejak Aug 13, 2009 45 hantaran

most imp thing is consistency and untill he is getting it i dont think any body shud whin for it...keep it up 😀

bhanu545

Ahli sejak Dec 11, 2009 94 hantaran

Dec 19, 2009 at 17:32

Ahli sejak Dec 11, 2009 94 hantaran

hey bro your account was showing 35% equity yesterday and it suddenly became 100% now.what was the trade that made your account that kind?can you please explain us briefly your trading style?do you have any website or forum where you have your system explained?

More profit with lower risk is my strategy

bored

Ahli sejak Nov 21, 2009 17 hantaran

Dec 19, 2009 at 21:09

Ahli sejak Nov 21, 2009 17 hantaran

My equity is not 100% in fact . Is some myfxbook bug.

scalpguy

Ahli sejak Oct 27, 2009 15 hantaran

Dec 21, 2009 at 16:44 (disunting Dec 21, 2009 at 16:48)

Ahli sejak Oct 27, 2009 15 hantaran

This is not a system for those who does not like over 200 pip drawdowns (for open trades) while average win trade is only 23.9 pip. Just check those history trades kept open over 1-2 days.

But if you forget that then the gain and the closed trades drawdown is very attractive at this moment ;)

cateful

Ahli sejak Dec 19, 2009 82 hantaran

Dec 21, 2009 at 17:48

Ahli sejak Dec 19, 2009 82 hantaran

from your average win/loss i would conclude you're opening positions in both directions and closing winning trades only. show your open trades please.

bored

Ahli sejak Nov 21, 2009 17 hantaran

Dec 21, 2009 at 18:38

Ahli sejak Nov 21, 2009 17 hantaran

scalpguy posted:
This is not a system for those who does not like over 200 pip drawdowns (for open trades) while average win trade is only 23.9 pip. Just check those history trades kept open over 1-2 days.

But if you forget that then the gain and the closed trades drawdown is very attractive at this moment ;)

scalpguy

Ahli sejak Oct 27, 2009 15 hantaran

Dec 22, 2009 at 08:25

Ahli sejak Oct 27, 2009 15 hantaran

I see you are very focused with your gains. Do not forget that there WILL BE times when your system stops to work as well as it does now. Then you will learn what the "drawdown" and risk control means (DD must be calculated from the open positions not from the closed trades as this site does).

But as I said. This is not a system for those who does not like +200 pip drawdowns (btw. that Gold trade were +700 pip loss) while average win is only 23.9. 4 big losses in a row may be near 3000 pip loss. At this point it means 40% loss of equity.

For those who does not care this may be an excellent system...

And what comes to your question the answer normally is propably. If you want the tight drawdowns your win rate will get lower giving you more losing trades but this is not allways the case. Go through your trades with different setups and see the results.

btw. may I ask why you do not disclose your open positions?

SG

bored

Ahli sejak Nov 21, 2009 17 hantaran

Dec 22, 2009 at 12:47

Ahli sejak Nov 21, 2009 17 hantaran

scalpguy posted:
I see you are very focused with your gains. Do not forget that there WILL BE times when your system stops to work as well as it does now. Then you will learn what the "drawdown" and risk control means (DD must be calculated from the open positions not from the closed trades as this site does).

But as I said. This is not a system for those who does not like +200 pip drawdowns (btw. that Gold trade were +700 pip loss) while average win is only 23.9. 4 big losses in a row may be near 3000 pip loss. At this point it means 40% loss of equity.

For those who does not care this may be an excellent system...

And what comes to your question the answer normally is propably. If you want the tight drawdowns your win rate will get lower giving you more losing trades but this is not allways the case. Go through your trades with different setups and see the results.

btw. may I ask why you do not disclose your open positions?

SG

"Fill or Kill" was right i use positions opened in both directions. So there in no such risk how its can be pretended.
Yes my equity is low , but its impossible to have hy equity with such style of trading. Yes i have position buy eur/usd Price 1.5091 , but it dont means that i lost even 1$ from this position. Its my style of trading. I get profit . What a problem ?

about Gold trade with +700 pip loss . I dont knew how its on your broker , but in Admiral Markets 700 pip loss in gold is less than 80 pip in eur/usd (if calculate in dolars).

About open positions:
There is few people who pay for this. I dont thing its very use such thisg as signals , but its their
decision.

Sorry of my bad english , i dont use it in real life. So i dont like to write any explanations.

P.s some people a little bit aggressive in my sistem judgement , but i cant understan why . I am not shouting
on the forums that i searching for investors or have a very nice EA to sell .

scalpguy

Ahli sejak Oct 27, 2009 15 hantaran

Dec 22, 2009 at 15:22 (disunting Dec 22, 2009 at 15:39)

Ahli sejak Oct 27, 2009 15 hantaran

No problems with your english. I am in the same "boat" too ;)

You look things from quite different angle than I. So this is the reason...

Nice to know your broker. Better picture now.

btw. I trade gold (futures) directly in CME:Globex (no shop between me and the exchange). Only full contracts so 1 tick is 0.1 -> 100 ozs/c $10/tick/contract. Here is the spec for it http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/metals/precious/gold_contract_specifications.html (nothing new for you I think).

And again ;) May I ask why you do not disclose your open positions?

Anyway. Have a good trading
SG

cateful

Ahli sejak Dec 19, 2009 82 hantaran

Dec 22, 2009 at 15:40

Ahli sejak Dec 19, 2009 82 hantaran

scalpguy posted:
btw. I trade gold (futures) directly in CME:Globex (no shop between me and the exchange). Only full contracts so 1 tick is 0.1 -> 100 ozs/c $10/tick/contract. Here is the spec for it http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/metals/precious/gold_contract_specifications.html (nothing new for you I think).

Nice to know your broker. Better picture now.

are you a member? do you trade on the floor? I heard the seats are now going for $1 million. how much are you paying for clearing?

on globex gold the minimum is one tick but what he trades at his broker is cash gold, and it's quoted by the full price. my broker is giving me 1083.23/58 right now so the spread is about 3 ticks, or 30 pips in fx terms. Theoretically the minimum change would be 1 cent, but you know.

scalpguy

Ahli sejak Oct 27, 2009 15 hantaran

Dec 22, 2009 at 16:41 (disunting Dec 22, 2009 at 16:42)

Ahli sejak Oct 27, 2009 15 hantaran

Yes Im an ECM member. I trade using dedicated lines. You can check the current rates from here: http://www.cmegroup.com/company/membership/membership-pricing.html

But I think this is little a bit off-topic...

benkrah

Ahli sejak Nov 18, 2009 7 hantaran

Dec 28, 2009 at 09:25

Ahli sejak Nov 18, 2009 7 hantaran

Hello Scalpguy,

even thuogh this discussion is about bored's system i would like to know if you are managing accounts?
your comments seems to be very siriouse and professional,

Regards,

Ben

scalpguy

Ahli sejak Oct 27, 2009 15 hantaran

Dec 29, 2009 at 22:03

Ahli sejak Oct 27, 2009 15 hantaran

Hello Ben,

Im trading in a proprietary trading company. Unfornately at this moment we do not trade OPM.

Rgds
SG

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