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FRWC - Fusion V - Alpari (Por stevetrade)
O utilizador eliminou este sistema.
FRWC - Fusion V - Alpari Discussão
Mar 11, 2010 at 03:12
How long do you think if you buy this system they will keep up with the timely updates??
This is being mass marketed to people that have no clue about trading...most are going to get the setting inputs wrong...
if you have bought this system I say one word
REFUND!
why do people who market EA's come of soooo cheesey?
This is being mass marketed to people that have no clue about trading...most are going to get the setting inputs wrong...
if you have bought this system I say one word
REFUND!
why do people who market EA's come of soooo cheesey?
Mar 11, 2010 at 03:27
Things have definitely gotten off to a rough start with these EAs. But, one person posting here said they already got a refund. That is encouraging news for anyone who may want to go that rout. Since we have 60 days I will continue to try to sort these settings out and see what happens. If things don't improve by day 59 a refund will be in the works. In the meantime I want to see if anything good can be squeezed out of these bots as they apparently don't allow you back in once you are out. That, of course, won't matter if things don't get a whole lot better than they are now.
Mar 11, 2010 at 04:12
jglefler posted:
... one person posting here said they already got a refund. That is encouraging news for anyone who may want to go that rout. ...
That would be me and I WASN'T ASKING FOR ONE. I just wanted clarity.. I challenged their inconsitent replies. I challenged their non-replies to direct questions. I challenged their marketing, what they have said and what their affiliate emails have promoted. You know what they said. We don't have control over what the affilaites do. Damn well they do. And I challenged their transparency, particulary when they eliminated the fusion account that collapsed by over 40%.
I had downloaded and was setting up the new files. AN hour later, I get an email advising of a refund and all my practice accounts were disabled.
FRWC was supposed to be the new standard. It's not. It's the same standard. A lot of money which should work out of the box. It didn't work right. Oh, sorry about that, we'll see if we can fix that. May work. May not work BUT, they certainly did not deliver what was promised *up to this point, anyway) I don't know how long it would take me to make $1000 off a micro lot account. But I have a $1000 back now, that I didn't have yesterday.
Keep in mind, fusion IS NOT their product. It's a combination of other people's products. Now they are running back to the developers, to get THEM to fiix the problems. But, don't worry they are working 24/7 just for your success.
Membro Desde Aug 31, 2009
131 posts
Mar 11, 2010 at 06:12
Ha!! Whats so hard to believe? - Steve was busting their balls so instead of answering his emails they simply said "cut the check". I can even understand it from FRWC's point of view. Steve sounds unhappy (and performance isnt getting any better) so I'd assume he would refund eventually anyway. I would've cut the check too.
It ain't easy being Cheesy!
Mar 11, 2010 at 06:55
Thank You.
All they had to do was answer my questions. They wouldn't do it. I got angrier and angier everytime they didn't.
One simple question was simply confirming if fusion was considered one of the robots that could be run for the purpose of considering a refund, since they emphasized how EXPERIMENTAL it was. Simple question. At no time would they confirm it. Made me very nervous, considering what I have seen posted here.
All they had to do was answer my questions. They wouldn't do it. I got angrier and angier everytime they didn't.
One simple question was simply confirming if fusion was considered one of the robots that could be run for the purpose of considering a refund, since they emphasized how EXPERIMENTAL it was. Simple question. At no time would they confirm it. Made me very nervous, considering what I have seen posted here.
Mar 11, 2010 at 12:33
(editado Mar 11, 2010 at 12:34)
After changing settings as recommended I made $16.00 on a 2K demo and $12.00 on a live account last night. That isn't retirement money but the EAs are doing better than they were doing. Will see where it goes from here.
Mar 11, 2010 at 15:10
(editado Mar 11, 2010 at 15:15)
Clearpaper posted:
carlscott1982 and Irbis,
Sent you guys PM's on my observations. Future posts in this main thread will be more generic, if at all.
jonfxbot,
I have nothing more to say to you. However, I sincerely do wish well for your future.
Your pretension while knowing nothing truly still amazes me.
At least you can stop pretending to know something.
Again, clearly, you know absolutely nothing. You are just
yet another typical "forum expert". People who come to
forums and pretend to know things when it is quite evident
that you know nothing. And only one thing is of any relevance
here... not optimizing this crap but people getting refunds. OK?
And shut the hell up with your typical insincere BS. When will
you ever stop pretending to be some nice person and someone
with real useful knowledge? Probably never. Shut the hell up
then and stop addressing me.
And Fusion is now starting to drain people accounts rather fast eh?
Steve is right...
FREAKIN REFUND!!!
Everything else is a totally and utterly useless discussion !!!
What's that? Performance issues from broker to broker?
BUT YOU ARE NOT TRADING LIVE !!!
Shut the hell up!!! Fusion has zero merit and it is utterly
worthless.
Dukascopy rules !!!
Mar 11, 2010 at 15:18
msteve000 posted:
What sounds fishy? What are you questioning? That I got an unwanted refund because I was too aggressive in my criticism?
Your viewpoint is certainly more honest, real, and useful
than someone coming in here and talking utter nonsense
and still thinking Fusion has some merit. Fusion is draining
people's accounts faster and faster. Just look at people's
statements from last week. All down huge percentages.
Dukascopy rules !!!
Mar 11, 2010 at 15:28
If Fusion clowns won't refund you.
Just use your Plimus# and go directly to
Plimus and constantly fill out the refund
ticket. If you harass both of them enough,
they may just give in rather than keep
fighting you. Unless you want to waste
30 days running a useless demo and waste
your time.
Just use your Plimus# and go directly to
Plimus and constantly fill out the refund
ticket. If you harass both of them enough,
they may just give in rather than keep
fighting you. Unless you want to waste
30 days running a useless demo and waste
your time.
Dukascopy rules !!!
Mar 11, 2010 at 15:32
(editado Mar 11, 2010 at 15:40)
kelrine posted:
It's working fine, I just log in but they have not reply me on my specific refund date. According to their email reply, they emailed me that its 30 days from purchase date. Hopefully they stick to their words.
Ya, this is quite the inconsistent issue still as Steve mentioned.
And I still keep getting 30 days of trading. So still inconsistent.
Not satisfactory. I hope this is the case... I am too annoyed
to run this crap on demo for 30 days. It is annoying to even
stare at Fusion trading.
And clearly, some people only care about appearing nice,
decent, and knowledgeable on here rather than addressing
the real issues and truths that actually matter. Clearpaper's
BS crap on brokers was truly laughable. That's some valuable
and useful information? Ya, let's post some more irrelevant
BS bordering on conspiracy theories. Only thing that matters
is refunds and telling prospective buyers that this Fusion
sucks!!! And there is nothing to tweak... so stop talking about
settings and optimizations.
Dukascopy rules !!!
Mar 11, 2010 at 15:51
Oh really... I also laugh at amateur psycho-babblers
on forex forums. I may have anger management
issues? Oh right... let's say that is the case.
But it certainly is better than PRENTENSION AT
EXPERTISE issues like some blowhard has in here.
Address things that actually matter, not your
bizarre views on brokers and truly incomprehensible
double talk that actually means nothing.
How do you know what latency issues are when
you are using your own computer and your
internet connection? Are you at least using
several VPS? No? Then shut up with stupid
terms you throw out to sound intelligent. You only
end up sounding like a retard. Latency has no
effect on this crap EA just like GMT offset has no
effect on the crap EA. Sheesh.
on forex forums. I may have anger management
issues? Oh right... let's say that is the case.
But it certainly is better than PRENTENSION AT
EXPERTISE issues like some blowhard has in here.
Address things that actually matter, not your
bizarre views on brokers and truly incomprehensible
double talk that actually means nothing.
How do you know what latency issues are when
you are using your own computer and your
internet connection? Are you at least using
several VPS? No? Then shut up with stupid
terms you throw out to sound intelligent. You only
end up sounding like a retard. Latency has no
effect on this crap EA just like GMT offset has no
effect on the crap EA. Sheesh.
Dukascopy rules !!!
Mar 11, 2010 at 16:28
jonfxbot posted:
Oh really... I also laugh at amateur psycho-babblers
on forex forums. I may have anger management
issues? Oh right... let's say that is the case.
But it certainly is better than PRENTENSION AT
EXPERTISE issues like some blowhard has in here.
Address things that actually matter, not your
bizarre views on brokers and truly incomprehensible
double talk that actually means nothing.
How do you know what latency issues are when
you are using your own computer and your
internet connection? Are you at least using
several VPS? No? Then shut up with stupid
terms you throw out to sound intelligent. You only
end up sounding like a retard. Latency has no
effect on this crap EA just like GMT offset has no
effect on the crap EA. Sheesh.
Relax man... 😄
aaa
Mar 11, 2010 at 17:34
jglefler posted:
After changing settings as recommended I made $16.00 on a 2K demo and $12.00 on a live account last night. That isn't retirement money but the EAs are doing better than they were doing. Will see where it goes from here.
The first week or so I was really impressed with HiRider. Fusion as a whole was down but HiRider was up about 15% pretty quick. We are talking $150 on $1000. Didn't last. I have read review warnings, that you really need 3-6 months to really get a handle on how performance will pan out. So, a few bots did well for a couple of months and others not so well. The next couple of months could be quite the opposite. But the killer has been the last couple of weeks. We've all seen the collapse and FRWC has opted to sweep it under the rug, by taking that account down. The point is, it has shown it's vunerabilty to collpase, which could wipe out a small account. FRWC is NOTHING more special or unique than everyone else. From what I can see on this site, there are also other good performers. Let's package them together into one combined system :-). Would probably do a lot better.
I don't know how long you have been running your demos or live account. I, personally, would not be running this on live account, just yet.
Membro Desde Feb 25, 2010
95 posts
Mar 11, 2010 at 18:14
Any of you guys, as of Thursday 2010-03-11 18:10, still have a single Straasha trade (main strategy) still open with floating pip of -30 pips?
If I understand correctly, the default setting 'S3_MaxLoss' at 10.0 should have closed it by now.
And I can't be too sure but I suspect the closing of open trades (by hitting TP or SL) might not override the trading hours settings (S3_StartHour, S3_EndHour, S3_TradeFriday), which would be rather bad. Particularly if any open Martingale positions crosses over the trading time window.
Just started testing Straasha this week so I don't know about how it handled over the previous weekend.
If I understand correctly, the default setting 'S3_MaxLoss' at 10.0 should have closed it by now.
And I can't be too sure but I suspect the closing of open trades (by hitting TP or SL) might not override the trading hours settings (S3_StartHour, S3_EndHour, S3_TradeFriday), which would be rather bad. Particularly if any open Martingale positions crosses over the trading time window.
Just started testing Straasha this week so I don't know about how it handled over the previous weekend.
Mar 11, 2010 at 18:57
msteve000 posted:
...I don't know how long you have been running your demos or live account. I, personally, would not be running this on live account, just yet.
I started the live and demo on day one of availability of EAs from FRWC. I have Fusion running on a small live account that was a very large, at least to me, account that another EA nearly wiped out. The account was down to $378.00. It is now at $409.00. It was up over $100.00 at one point but Super Volcano went crazy and was down by $150.00 at one point. When it retraced to only $50.00 down I thought I would cut my losses and close the 3 trades it had open. When the market went back down I was pleased with myself for "cutting my losses". As it turned out, the market then shoot sharply back up. If I hadent lost my nerve SV would have had me up over $100.00 on this small account. Ah, FOREX.
Mar 11, 2010 at 19:24
All too often my investment history is plagued by initial drawdown and fighting forwever just to get it back to breakeven. By the time it can move in the right direction I have nothing left to move.
It's a matter of trust. I like the idea of automated trading where I don't have to look at it, otherwise you might just as well be glued to your PC doing manual tradiung.
It's a matter of trust. I like the idea of automated trading where I don't have to look at it, otherwise you might just as well be glued to your PC doing manual tradiung.
Mar 11, 2010 at 19:37
msteve000 posted:
All too often my investment history is plagued by initial drawdown and fighting forwever just to get it back to breakeven. By the time it can move in the right direction I have nothing left to move.
It's a matter of trust. I like the idea of automated trading where I don't have to look at it, otherwise you might just as well be glued to your PC doing manual tradiung.
I hear ya. I have tried most of the "big" EAs and they ALL suck. One of them made several K in a very short time. I thought I had found the holy grail. Then, as usual, it lost that profit and tons of my own money (dad always said a fool and his money are soon parted). This is probably it for me. If they cant get this EA producing I can't keep throwing money down this rat hole. I don't even need a bot to make a ton. If it can make $15 to $25 per day I would be happy. It's the loosing $15 to $150 per day that all too often happens. The whole bot thing probably falls under the heading of, "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is".
