20-40% performance fee (with high watermark) for Forex traders

copett posted:
Hi Remus,

Nice to see you again sir :)

How are you doing, copett?

Since we were talking about accounts with little money, I think you have a good example:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/copett/c-bank/346431

Open account with $100, withdraw $80, and continue trading. Good job! Keep it up!

Hello Remus,

Greetings,

Let us first say that if this post is not in the right place we apologize. We are new to this site and not sure of the rules.

We are Blue Sky Trading Partners and we just launched our trade room and signal service and are also featured on Zulu trade as an SP.

We are US based. Our head trader has worked as a consultant in the hedgefund industry and has over 10 years live FX experience. We trade with our own custom designed indicators and are currently in the process of becoming CFTC compliant and joining the NFA.

We currently offer trading on Zulu Trade under the name tradetheladders :
https://www.zulutrade.com/TradeHistoryIndividual.aspx?pid=109793

We also offer a live version of our system for those who like to trade on their own via our 24/6 traderoom. There is no credit card required.

We are also very very different from other signal/tradeservices, money managers.

One of the things that we noticed about the Forex world in general is how everyone is trying to prove that their system works or they can trade etc. They do this with back tests ( useless) or provide statements off sites like this.

Thats great but what does it really tell you about the risk involved etc. How do you have recourse or even know if a trader panics and doesnt follow the rules they established that caused you to join.

Thats what sets us apart from everyone else.

First we offer a very detailed explanation of our methods as well as the rules under which we trade.

Next we back that by recording the market and our system 24/6. We then condense the footage so it can be viewed in a reasonable time and post it publicly on you tube. This gives you the investor/trader full recourse if we dont follow our rules or system.

It also allows you to make an informed real choice based off the actual performance of our system during different times and periods thru out a trading day. In real market conditions.

If you have ever bought a system or subscribde to a service only to find out you cant use it because its not condusive to your time schedule you know how frustrating it can be. That cant happen with us. Just watch the tapes and see when the signals come etc.

We dont cherry pick we chop the tree down. Its a new way to verify and one needs to ask why others are not offering it. The software is out there.

So anyway we hope you will give us a chance to help you reach your financial and personal goals via the forex market.

The Blue Sky Trading Team

www.tradetheladders.com

NextLevelForex posted:

haridasshsb posted:
hello sir,

Sir, I dont have stuff to invest myself in forex. Thats what I want to prove my skill to other and let them to invest to my managed account. I have managed account with FXPRIMUS.

I somewhat understand your point, even though there are good brokers who allow you to open with $200 or less. But here is the thing: even the profitable traders get themselves into trouble when managing money for others (whether publicly or just between friends). So from my point of view aspiring managers need to complete these 3 steps:

1) be profitable in demo; this part I believe they should keep to themselves (i.e. no need to publicly show demo accounts)
2) be profitable in real money account, which should be with a recognizable broker (i.e. no with MyUnknownSuperBroker)
3) be profitable in a managed account, i.e. show you can sustain your personal performance when trading other's money

Of course, you can skip these steps and dream about getting funded. I was just telling my side of the story. There is a lot more to it, but the above list is the minimum I expect.

Hello Sir,

Thanks for considering my message.

Even my account is a demo account. Please keep watching my performance. For last four months, I gained around 1,600 pips thats average 400 pips per month. Asper myfxbook.com my gain percentage is +31%. This is because I have never increased my lot size from 0.10. I have upload this performance in Zulutrade.com also. So I want to monitor my profit in pips and not in dollars.

Hi haridas,

In my opinion you will never get an investor to trade for based on a demo account, noway, never gonna happen (unless its a complete noobee investor - gambler - who has a spare $100 to throw away).

Pips nor dollars are the way to monitor performance... the ONLY way to monitor performance is by amount risked based on stoploss per trade, and % increase on account balance per month.

pt49 posted:
Hi haridas,

In my opinion you will never get an investor to trade for based on a demo account, noway, never gonna happen (unless its a complete noobee investor - gambler - who has a spare $100 to throw away).

Pips nor dollars are the way to monitor performance... the ONLY way to monitor performance is by amount risked based on stoploss per trade, and % increase on account balance per month.

Hi pt49,

thanks for kind opinion. Very soon I will open a live account and link with myfxbook.com. Hope then after will get a chance for investors.

Hi,

1. Minimum Acc : 10€
2. Broker digit : 5
3. Leverage : 1:200
4. Manager Fee : from 25% to 50% depending on deposited money
5. Duration : min. 1 day
6. Estimation ROI per month : NA
7. Type of Management : PAMM
8. Myfxbook REAL account: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/rnco/rnco1/348064
9. Description of your trading strategy :
    Manual trading - Renko style

Hi Remus,

I've experience 5 years. I have tried many strategies.
History is not good; i do not hide my account history.

Since 07.20.2012 I have my own manual strategies based on technical and fundamental analysis.

Pleas added my PAMM to your watchlist.

Myfxbook: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Lions/leo/363495
Instaforex: https://instaforex.com/pamm_monitoring.php?trader=7048157

Best regards.

Hi Remus,

I've been trading forex for more than 5 years.

I'm currently a full time trader and helping investors to manage funds as well.

I've both automated trading system and manual trading system, both are technical base.

Here is my MyFXBook account : https://www.myfxbook.com/members/SG_iForex

I'm currently using all these accounts as my master accounts for all my investors.

Hi Remus,

I've been trading forex for 5 years. Currently, I am running FX Odyssey PAMM for the last 1 year successfully.

Usually, my system generates nearly 30 trades per month. Average trade duration is 7 days. Overall, the FX Odyssey PAMM has generated nearly 75% profit Y2Y. You can see more details below

See performance and more details on myfxbook : https://odyssey.rocks.it
See what other say on facebook : https://www.green.makes.it
Invest in FX Odyssey PAMM: https://www.fxodyssey.does.it

Any feedback and suggestions are highly welcome

Hi Remus,

My second PAMM Account

Instaforex: https://instaforex.com/pamm_monitoring.php?trader=7044536
Myfxbook: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Lions/leo1/364881

Just about all these systems look like this:
Average Win: 10.80 pips /
Average Loss: -19.11 pips
Because you add to losers and hope for the best.
Yes it is a 'strategy', as long as you understand you're playing 'double or nothing'

There's a reason mine look like this
Average Win: 246.94 pips
Average Loss: -87.78 pips
Expectancy: 99.7 Pips per trade

Remus, given that your systems are mostly similar to the top eg and martingale losers, don't you think you should leave the decisions on the system's trading parameters to the profitable trader instead of trying to impose your conditions which have so far proven unprofitable?
My system is profitable and I've been doing it for years.
Why on earth would I even think twice about your conditions?
The way it works is the opposite: Don't like my system? Back to your martingale EAs and hope for the best.
Want 20-50% pa relatively low risk?
Why should I trade your money?

SwingTrader posted:

There's a reason mine look like this
Average Win: 246.94 pips
Average Loss: -87.78 pips
Expectancy: 99.7 Pips per trade

I am actually working as your reminder:

Your are right, but ...

...your history is only about a few days, so your post seems to be a little bit weird.

And your absolutely right, here my history is only a few mths, other places a few years.
Only time will tell, but one thing is certain is that I put my money behind my trade calls.
I also decided to try out some EA with a new acct.

Weird?
Trading is not easy, so for someone who can't do it to be demanding conditions on those who can as Remus thinks he can is absurd.
It's like McLaren signing up Alonso and then telling him how to drive.
That's weird.

btw I like your results Daytrading!
I trade very small over long periods, like week trading.

I started this thread when I was looking for people with whom I could establish long term win-win relationships. I found a few already, and am working with them, which is the main reason for not actively looking for others, lately.

SwingTrader,

There are no Martingale EAs in my portfolio or profile. I think you are in the wrong place and came to a bunch of wrong conclusions.

I was not 'demanding conditions', just looking for information about other people's trading style/results, particularly from those wanting to trade other people's money. I made the process public thinking it will help future readers from both sides (those with money to be traded, and the traders) see 'what's out there'.

@SwingTrader,

I find your post weird as well. First of all, Remus has NOT put any conditions in selecting PAMM Traders. He only made this thread for PAMM Traders to display their performance. The decision to invest with them is as always the investor's decision. I think, you just want to brag and get noticed. In a way we all do :D

PS: By the way, your Trend Trader system that you are bragging about, as @Daytrading rightly points out, only a few days old. But, yeah, you made a profit of 173$ in a 14 days. Impressive, I have added that system to my watchlist, if it's any comfort :-)

@Remus,

 It's good to see you back. And You are right as usual :-D.


 and Daytrading,

Thanks, we think alike

NextLevelForex posted:
There are also a couple of conditions you need to be aware of, and I'll list them below:
1) hedging is permitted, FIFO is ignored
2) only Forex trading is currently allowed
3) floating DD is also subject to $100 limit
4) account must be flat over the weekend
Remus

OK, maybe I take things a little too literal lol.

FX Odyssey you won't see no 20% mth in my trading. 20-50% pa is ok with me.
I trade real money, only my own and more than most. And I ain't in any hurry.
Started in the 90's ftr.

Hi Guys and Remus,

Dont want to waste your valuable time. Home work is a must for Investors. Please study my profile, save them in your watch list if you want to get update each months.

Mostly in history I gain minimum 700 pips a month. I do not know future, but my commitment is: if I dont get 500 pips a month, my service next month be free for you.

Regards
Willy

hi, i am brijesh srivastav.
i manage accounts with private ea + manual trading + trend trading.
i dont use any commercial ea and i dont recommend them.
i am offering two week free trial of my service.
if u need trial, then you must have accounts in icmarkets or armada markets exchange account or fxopen ecn account or any low spread ecn account.
for trail minimum fund should be 100usd for 0.01 lot size and 1000 for 0.1 lot size.
after trail period minimum investment should be 1000$


the drawdown will be under 8%
profit monthly 20% to 40% on consistent basis.
i can guarantee you that you will get profit every month.

i can challenge that you will like it.

skype brijeshsriva
[email protected]

If you're looking for a safe investment, check us out. However, we're only looking for big investors atm.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/LKHedgeFund