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Looking for an PAMM Partner

Dirk (Quick100)
Feb 07 2013 at 11:27
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Hi,
I´m looking for an Partner using Alpari NZ ECN PAMM Accounts which I can manage.

Will use these systems:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Quick100/volks-fx/455766/ZkcHLMmDMMfDZHRx1ZHs
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Quick100/pimped-asian-power/450533/vvjW53b1O7VmTk9x4Mfp

If interested drop me an pm

thanks
Dirk


Dirk (Quick100)
Feb 08 2013 at 10:52
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one more thing about this....
to become a Partner needs an Invest of $ 1.2k
this is for setting up Manager Account with $500
setting up VPS for Trading and ea system $200
and for your partner account $500 for PAMM trading
so we can trade with $1k the system

Partnership is about all upcomng Investors from you, for detailed fees and performance
of this system since May last year please pm me

but please only serious mails

thanks
Dirk

FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Feb 08 2013 at 10:59
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I would be curious to see some backtest results.

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Dirk (Quick100)
Feb 08 2013 at 11:04
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sorry but there are no backtest results, just forward trading as i said before, sry

as live started for my client at mid of may I gave him that month for free...

and results were as following:
from May to June 5.4%
July 5.4%
August -
September 9.1%
October 6.9%
November 6.9%
December 12.7%
January 6.4%

I know this is a bit complicated and it will be more complicated if an serious trader
needs proof .... but only via pm

FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Feb 08 2013 at 11:36
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Thanks! It would be nice to see 5-6 years backtest results, if possible.

What was the max. Peak-to-Valley DD?

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Dirk (Quick100)
Feb 08 2013 at 12:28
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I never made backtests so I dont know if this system will allow one because
of trading style.
myfxbook showed an 27% DD from May on but as myfxbook even put some money into the account and
put it back ????? these numbers are useless
cant backtest because of......

Dirk (Quick100)
Feb 12 2013 at 11:25
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$FX System is running GREAT
took out one Scalper, Pimped Asian Power is now running with only 2 scalpers

thedoctor
Feb 14 2013 at 15:04
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hi, wait till you actually run in on live for months before considering to gather potential client or partners.

If you can do a system with less than 10% dd and still avg more than 5-10% for at least 6 months, then personally i would consider, i don't mind trying a 5 digit too.


HARIS MUNANDAR (harisyes11)
Feb 18 2013 at 07:11
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FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Feb 19 2013 at 10:16
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hundy1987 posted:
Hi
We are currently recruiting Pamm Managers at forexmoneymaking.com. Our goal is to have the best pamm accounts available to the general public. There will be a lot of exposure for the pamm accounts so the managers will have the chance of attracting some serious investors. If you are interested in joining our managers team please sign up for the trial period and good luck.


I like your idea, but I very dislike this 'fishy' part: 'Please note that the trial costs $400 that is required as a deposit that you will be given to trade with. If you fail the trial, the account will be terminated and the remaining money will go to FOREX MONEY MAKING.'

Why do you need additional proof plus 400 USD when MyFxBook is the GOLD STANDARD of account verification...???
Let me guess: so you can make money off failed aspiring PAMM traders. And you decide when they fail. Sounds like 'Wolf eats wolf'...

Too 'fishy' for me...

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thedoctor
Feb 19 2013 at 11:07
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:) good one there fx master guru. there are others out there. https://rapacapintro.com is free, and really have good analytics

I don't think a trial manager needs to pay anything at all, fmm seems new still, though the dd etc are good requirements, but trial cost is definitely nonsense to me.

Imagine i just collect 10 400USD from 10 naive wannabes of manager? Why not these TALENTED PAMM MANAGER JUST OPEN THEIR OWN PAMM WITH BROKERS, if they are so good, they eventually will get deposits from anywhere! Don't forget that i have seen pamm from few thousands initial becomes few hundred thousands. So why must they choose to work with FMM when they don't benefit as much as operating alone? or when rapa is giving free analytics? and allocation of funds.


other than that, one is fxjunction for copier, zulutrade is one of them.

thedoctor
Feb 19 2013 at 11:08
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the best part is he don't even have a proven track record to back himself up as well. His current live account is merely 300 USD balance + etc.

It can be a scam to collect mutiple of 400 USD from every naive fund manager to build up his own base :). He can be a good trader himself, but if he's really into this set up.

Then at least his account should be 10K to 100 K at least to prove what he want to convey. Why would i follow a leader when i don't know what sources or backup he has?

Look at rapa, they have millions, and at least few hundred thousands everytime to re-allocate. If i a good money manager that wants to do public, all i have to do is just open pamm, with my own 500-1000 deposits, and trade from there, eventually i will get a boost in my deposits from public investors if i am good. why i WASTE 400 for something which can be a scam?

To apply for a 3 month trial click on the SIGN UP button bellow. Please note that the trial costs $400 that is required as a deposit that you will be given to trade with. If you fail the trial, the account will be terminated and the remaining money will go to FOREX MONEY MAKING.
This is very important that you fully understand the risk.
The reason why we charge the initial $400 is to ensure we only have serious traders sign up. Remember. Consistency and low draw down is KEY.

Good write up, but unrealistic. If i can have good 3 months track record i can do it LIVE why need FMM? A PENNY FOR A THOUGHT, i personally marked this as ' CAUTIOUS '.

i wont be surprised after a few weeks or months, the 400 USD disappear :), all he need to do is, ' NOT UP TO HIS STANDARD ', and he get free 400 USD :). Its still a win win for him even if the trader MADE IT! he get a free trader under him and over ride his 30%.

LAME STUFF . Should be reported.!

thedoctor
Feb 19 2013 at 11:08
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i already clicked on report, as its don't seem ethical to me, to avoid naive wannabe to fall into this internet trick.

hundy1987
Feb 19 2013 at 11:08
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The $400 is to stop every aspiring but not very good trader applying which takes us time and energy to set up the accounts and also recruit investors. The $400 is the traders money and that will be the starting size of the pamm account. We also like to start with a fresh account so we can monitor and control the account if it goes into drawdown passed the limit of 20%. It is important that the account is under our control and to do this we need the $400 payment so we can create an account that we can close if it does go bad. We cannot recommend pamm mangers without a safety net of shutting the account down if the manager loses his discipline and starts taking large risks.
I know the 400 usd may turn a few people away but we are looking for confident and competent traders and not for people who will just be wasting their time and our time.

Thanks Fx Master Guru. We are always happy to answer questions and will give you an honest answer.

FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Feb 19 2013 at 11:28
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hundy1987 posted:
The $400 is to stop every aspiring but not very good trader applying which takes us time and energy to set up the accounts and also recruit investors. The $400 is the traders money and that will be the starting size of the pamm account. We also like to start with a fresh account so we can monitor and control the account if it goes into drawdown passed the limit of 20%. It is important that the account is under our control and to do this we need the $400 payment so we can create an account that we can close if it does go bad. We cannot recommend pamm mangers without a safety net of shutting the account down if the manager loses his discipline and starts taking large risks.
I know the 400 usd may turn a few people away but we are looking for confident and competent traders and not for people who will just be wasting their time and our time.

Thanks Fx Master Guru. We are always happy to answer questions and will give you an honest answer.


Well, no more comments. 'TheDoctor' has already detailed above what I might have added.

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hundy1987
Feb 19 2013 at 12:57
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thedoctor posted:
the best part is he don't even have a proven track record to back himself up as well. His current live account is merely 300 USD balance + etc.

It can be a scam to collect mutiple of 400 USD from every naive fund manager to build up his own base :). He can be a good trader himself, but if he's really into this set up.

Then at least his account should be 10K to 100 K at least to prove what he want to convey. Why would i follow a leader when i don't know what sources or backup he has?

Look at rapa, they have millions, and at least few hundred thousands everytime to re-allocate. If i a good money manager that wants to do public, all i have to do is just open pamm, with my own 500-1000 deposits, and trade from there, eventually i will get a boost in my deposits from public investors if i am good. why i WASTE 400 for something which can be a scam?

To apply for a 3 month trial click on the SIGN UP button bellow. Please note that the trial costs $400 that is required as a deposit that you will be given to trade with. If you fail the trial, the account will be terminated and the remaining money will go to FOREX MONEY MAKING.
This is very important that you fully understand the risk.
The reason why we charge the initial $400 is to ensure we only have serious traders sign up. Remember. Consistency and low draw down is KEY.

Good write up, but unrealistic. If i can have good 3 months track record i can do it LIVE why need FMM? A PENNY FOR A THOUGHT, i personally marked this as ' CAUTIOUS '.

i wont be surprised after a few weeks or months, the 400 USD disappear :), all he need to do is, ' NOT UP TO HIS STANDARD ', and he get free 400 USD :). Its still a win win for him even if the trader MADE IT! he get a free trader under him and over ride his 30%.

LAME STUFF . Should be reported.!





Please people before you over think this and automatically think scam, take a breath and relax. If you noticed the account that is currently on the pamm account section is only available to review and it is not possible to invest into until the trial period is over. Every account that will be listed on the site will have stats from day one and you wont have years of proof to back up the figures ( at least at the start until enough time has passed ). The idea is if you have a pamm account you will have greater exposure by listing on our website compared to just starting your own account. Everything will be transparent and upfront so please do not speculate before asking

hundy1987
Feb 19 2013 at 12:58
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It definitely would not be in our interest to rip people off as we are trying to ATTRACT traders and not build a shitty reputation based on lies and deceit. I understand people being cautious but if you can trade and can stick to the guidelines that are clearly set out with no hidden catches then you have nothing to be worried about. It is as simple as it sounds and surely if you are not about to stick to the guidelines you would not apply. Common sense isn't it??

thedoctor
Feb 19 2013 at 12:59
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hundy1987 posted:
The $400 is to stop every aspiring but not very good trader applying which takes us time and energy to set up the accounts and also recruit investors. The $400 is the traders money and that will be the starting size of the pamm account. We also like to start with a fresh account so we can monitor and control the account if it goes into drawdown passed the limit of 20%. It is important that the account is under our control and to do this we need the $400 payment so we can create an account that we can close if it does go bad. We cannot recommend pamm mangers without a safety net of shutting the account down if the manager loses his discipline and starts taking large risks.
I know the 400 usd may turn a few people away but we are looking for confident and competent traders and not for people who will just be wasting their time and our time.

Thanks Fx Master Guru. We are always happy to answer questions and will give you an honest answer.


on what basis do u recommend pamm manager? are u even licensed or certified? Do u even have an established network of clients and investors?

U certainly need more weighs to back up what you want to preach. The term ' we ' i think is you! sorry to say this but in the forex marketing and system and etc selling world, there are too many scams, i even noticed one system indicator lately selling one of the ' OLD indicator i had used 2 years ago ' and they are selling it package it nicely to cheat on naive people thinking the products belong to them etc.

Look : https://www.myfxbook.com/members/hundy1987/consistent-profit/486269 even with your attached live account, u don't even have up to 1 year of track records. that's not legit at all.

think u want to run such services? https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Perfecto_FX/perfecto-fx-optimum-3tgfx/370489 at least compare yourself to perfecto first.

More time and proofs, just create a website thinking u can collect 400 USD from anyone else! Hey 10-20% DD is too easily hit by majority of retail traders. the good traders out there don't need to trade for others, they can do it themselves! and still earn a good and honest living.

Those dreamers and wannabe may fall for your tricks, but don't forget, u can easily decide who u don't want, but the funny thing is. DO U EVEN HAVE FUNDS?

'' It is important that the account is under our control and to do this we need the $400 payment so we can create an account that we can close if it does go bad. '' what kind of statement is that?

u take others money to pay for ur stuff? u kidding right? grow up boy.

So many PAMM services and broker out there can already provide a transparency and FREE Service for both investor and fund manager. 400 USD can already fund their own PAMM MASTER.

Don't be fool by this person!

thedoctor
Feb 19 2013 at 14:47
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hundy1987 posted:
It definitely would not be in our interest to rip people off as we are trying to ATTRACT traders and not build a shitty reputation based on lies and deceit. I understand people being cautious but if you can trade and can stick to the guidelines that are clearly set out with no hidden catches then you have nothing to be worried about. It is as simple as it sounds and surely if you are not about to stick to the guidelines you would not apply. Common sense isn't it??


i have put my cautious statement across as i have seen too many scams and frauds, just doing my part to warn, if you are really legit, then within months your results and teams of managers should deny the statement i made as false :). That time i will salute to you then.

If you don't have the obligation of 400 USD, i fairly think its a good shot for those wannabes, or even investors looking for a place to invest securely. But u dont have much weigh not even your own consistent profit account can prove anything when its merely 300 USD account, u talking about serious, then u should be serious as well. Ur guidelines are set by u, it can meant nothing when u disappear, don't forget that PFG looks legit and go online and disppear, how about so many fake HYIP programmes out there?

If u think u want to source for good managers, rapa's analytics or myfxbook is good enough already. why bother wasting 400 USD? One can trade good on his account a , b or even c, but does not mean one can trade excellent on a money manager account when its much more money as well.

why don't u ask them to fund their own money manager account and trade there live? and within 3 months if they are good, u LIST them on ur website?

Seriously think about it?

doesn't matter which pamm broker, insta, hf, alpari etc.

if i want to be listed on your site, why don't i open a 500 USD account there and trade live for 3 months to meet the requirement of 20% Dd and consistent profit??

End of the day, the money belongs to me. If that time u really consider to list to ur side to reach out to more investor, then u can approach me, then do ur 70/30 profit sharing then? U can just open multiple manager accounts, then allocate for me to trade when u got investors :).

A even safer and brilliant IDEA??? better than asking where my 400 USD WENT TO.

THANKS. i hope i bring my message across safely to those wannabes




FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Feb 19 2013 at 16:03
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Again, the good Doctor has spoken the Truth. Listen to him People, or suffer the consequences.

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