ProFx 3.0 (Od Forex21)

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ProFx 3.0 diskuse

Jan 16, 2014 at 12:19
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Členem od Jan 16, 2014   416 příspěvků
Mar 27, 2014 at 13:57
The setups are just a part of it, and although they are an important part of the system, it is the combination of all parts (indicators, setups, trading rules) which makes it a very effective trading system.
Členem od Dec 21, 2011   5 příspěvků
Apr 01, 2014 at 16:18
I don't recommend this system as it is just a lagging indicator (mostly customized MAs with other two oscillators), you will get signal of trend direction on 30 minutes time frame, which most of times are late and you miss the move, or fake trend change so you end up with losses, so I couldn't find it useful for such amount of money $189. you can find many free trend indicators similar to it or even better.

Also, as for the results you see here, don't get cheated, as they are daily trades opened manually by the system owner, and most of the time we don't know why he opened the trade or closed it, it is not connected to the system, and it seems he depends on his trading experience, and trying to make customers feel that these results are directly connected to his system performance, but in reality this is not true, and whatever you do with his system, you will not get the same results or even any long term profits.

And you can follow the system creator twitter account or website and see the daily trade he opens and you will understand what I mean.

And finally, take care of his trick, as he claims that the purchase is refundable without any conditions or questions, but when you will try to refund he will come by any reason to stop that, specially he hides a piece of info stating that refund period is just 10 calendar days from purchase day, and he hides this info in the website, so many customers get tricked and when they try to refund their money he will tell them that time is passed!

Please take care, and let me know if you need any further details and advice!
Členem od Jan 16, 2014   416 příspěvků
Apr 01, 2014 at 17:25 (Upravené Apr 01, 2014 at 17:54)
Hello Aly,

I don't recommend this system as it is just a lagging indicator (mostly customized MAs with other two oscillators)
I am sorry to hear that. Many traders love it and I am sure if you would give it a little time and stick for the beginning to the basic rules you would succeed with it as well. By the way, all technical indicators are lagging. That is not to change. However, ProFx have nothing to do with MAs. I mean it would be great if it would be that simple but it is not.


....you will get signal of trend direction on 30 minutes time frame, which most of times are late and you miss the move, or fake trend change so you end up with losses, so I couldn't find it useful for such amount of money $189. you can find many free trend indicators similar to it or even better.

Sometimes you will miss a move, yes. ...and sometimes you will be late, yes. BUT what matters are the results at the end of the month. And I believe they speak for themselves. Anyway, if you believe that you will get better results with a bunch of free indicators, than go ahead and see how it works out.

Also, as for the results you see here, don't get cheated, as they are daily trades opened manually by the system owner, and most of the time we don't know why he opened the trade or closed it, it is not connected to the system, and it seems he depends on his trading experience, and trying to make customers feel that these results are directly connected to his system performance, but in reality this is not true, and whatever you do with his system, you will not get the same results or even any long term profits.

This is an ridicules argument because all trade suggestions are based on the standard trading rules and they are really very easy to follow. However, as I trade since nearly 10 years, I do share of course some of my experience. I believe there is nothing wrong with.


And finally, take care of his trick, as he claims that the purchase is refundable without any conditions or questions, but when you will try to refund he will come by any reason to stop that, specially he hides a piece of info stating that refund period is just 10 calendar days from purchase day, and he hides this info in the website, so many customers get tricked and when they try to refund their money he will tell them that time is passed!

Here is a screenshot of the 'hidden' refund policy. Font is pretty large and as the terms and conditions page is linked from every single page I believe it cannot be called hidden.




Best Regards, Alexander



Členem od Jan 16, 2014   416 příspěvků
Apr 01, 2014 at 17:26 (Upravené Apr 01, 2014 at 17:27)
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Členem od Aug 23, 2012   1 příspěvků
Apr 03, 2014 at 21:30
Mr. Forex21 (Alex) blocked my other account (abouetta), because I discovered the truth about his system and I just saying it objectively!

Here is a screen shot from my other fxbook account showing the block!

I warn everybody to think twice before buying this system, don't waste your money, it is a lagging indicator with many fake breakouts you will end with losses, and if the results here faked you, please keep in mind it is system creator manual selected trades, and we don't know how he selects them from the tenth of his indicator trend signals sent daily!

And at the end take care the system refund period is just 10 days, and you will not find this written in the EULA (end user license agreement) so take care!


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Členem od Jan 16, 2014   416 příspěvků
Apr 04, 2014 at 06:46
Hello Aly,
suggestions, questions and of course also critic is welcome here but as your arguments are ridiculous I blocked your messages and 'Allāhu Akbar' hate e-mails.

Now, if you take a look to the results of other ProFx 3.0 users, you will see that even traders who just started their trading career archive great results. As you don't, you need to ask yourself if it is really the system that does not work, or if it is your own fault.

Fact is that if you follow the basic trading rules, you will make money. If you cannot follow them from what reason ever, then it is very likely that you will not make any profits using it, but it does not mean that the system does not work. It just means that it does not work for you because you are not capable of following the rules.

Best Regards, Alexander

PS: All trade suggestions are based on the basic trading rules and everybody who can follow the trading rules can and will archive the same or very similar trading results.
Členem od Aug 22, 2013   10 příspěvků
Apr 04, 2014 at 07:50
@ aly aka quhedge aka akbar aka abouetta

You open multiple user accounts and try to proof your point by talking with yourself. Maybe you should get some professional help?

BTW, I bought ProFx too, and it is the best system I ever used for trading. All you have to do is follow the rules and magic things will happen to your account.

Matt
Členem od Jan 16, 2014   416 příspěvků
Apr 04, 2014 at 08:59 (Upravené Apr 04, 2014 at 09:00)
Hello everyone,
although it is not topic related; I was wanted to inform you that we just published three new free tools for currency traders.

1) Forex Risk Calculator
This calculator allows you to calculate risk per trade and risk ratio. Use it to keep your risk under control and improve your money management strategy.

Link: https://www.forex21.com/forex-risk-calculator-in-lots

2) Forex Currency Converter

This tool can be used to convert any currency to another one. All quotes are based on Yahoo Finance live prices.

Link: https://www.forex21.com/forex-currency-converter

3) Forex Compounding Calculator

If you ever asked yourself how your account balance will look in one year when you make 5% per month, then you will love this tool.

Link: https://www.forex21.com/forex-compounding-calculator

Best Regards, Alexander
Členem od Feb 26, 2014   15 příspěvků
Apr 04, 2014 at 13:09
@ quhedge
Why not share your trading results? As there are lots of people who do well with this system, I am sure that some would agree to analyze your results and help you to get you on the right track.

'False flag' and 'Crying in your own beer' posts won't make you any profits. 😉
Členem od Mar 14, 2012   61 příspěvků
Apr 09, 2014 at 08:50

Hello!

! have a couple of questions regarding ProFX:

1. What would the result look like/gad been if one had traded with the simplest approach for new beginners? I have seen that one needs additional tools to use the morecomplicated trading, and I see myself as a new beginner.Has any one done this on MyFxbook?

2: The trading result as we ca see here on MyFxbook, is this advanced trading, and if so, with what settings/approach (4 h swing or what)?

3. If I would want to achieve the sane trading as this shown here on MyFxbook, can I get adequate info from ProFX to du so or not (avoid fake break-outs)?

Regards
Členem od Feb 04, 2012   85 příspěvků
Apr 09, 2014 at 10:29
SVEEUK1 posted:

Hello!

! have a couple of questions regarding ProFX:

1. What would the result look like/gad been if one had traded with the simplest approach for new beginners? I have seen that one needs additional tools to use the morecomplicated trading, and I see myself as a new beginner.Has any one done this on MyFxbook?

2: The trading result as we ca see here on MyFxbook, is this advanced trading, and if so, with what settings/approach (4 h swing or what)?

3. If I would want to achieve the sane trading as this shown here on MyFxbook, can I get adequate info from ProFX to du so or not (avoid fake break-outs)?

Regards

Try it for 10 days risk-free and you shall know....
Členem od Mar 14, 2012   61 příspěvků
Apr 09, 2014 at 12:48
Has anyone traded with the simplest approach for new beginners - what would it have generated?

There are test one can see on Myfxbook made by experienced which showes good result, but I wonder if anyone has tested the simplest approach.

Thanks!
Členem od Jan 16, 2014   416 příspěvků
Apr 09, 2014 at 12:52 (Upravené Apr 09, 2014 at 12:54)
! have a couple of questions regarding ProFX:

Hello Sveeku1, thank you for your interest. To your questions:

1. What would the result look like/gad been if one had traded with the simplest approach for new beginners? I have seen that one needs additional tools to use the more complicated trading, and I see myself as a new beginner.Has any one done this on MyFxbook?

Many traders believe that when that they will get better results when they use as much as possible indicators and tools. However, the truth is that most make things simple much more complicated then they need to be. If you would like to see more results, visit our forum.

2: The trading result as we ca see here on MyFxbook, is this advanced trading, and if so, with what settings/approach (4 h swing or what)?

No, it has nothing to do with advanced trading. All results are based on the ProFx 3.0 standard trading rules.

3. If I would want to achieve the sane trading as this shown here on MyFxbook, can I get adequate info from ProFX to du so or not (avoid fake break-outs)?

You can. Fake break outs and losses are part of the 'game' and not always to avoid. It is also not important because what matters is how much profit you make at the end of the month/quarter.

Best Regards, Alexander
Členem od Mar 14, 2012   61 příspěvků
Apr 09, 2014 at 17:01

Hello! Thanks! Just to confirm your answer, if I JUST had followed the (simplest) trading instructions from ProFX with TP, SL etc., and without using fibonacci grid or CHOOSING trades, I would have achieved (close to)the same result as one can see in MyFxbook?

Experienced traders could/would be able to achieve higher return if I'm right.

Regards
Členem od Sep 24, 2013   38 příspěvků
Apr 10, 2014 at 07:25
My experience is that it works best when you use it 'AS IS'.

Wolfgang
Členem od Jan 16, 2014   416 příspěvků
Apr 10, 2014 at 07:53
Sveeuk1, forget about the complicated stuff. It is of course up to you to modify the system rules but I always recommend to use the basic trading rules. They are very easy to follow and deliver good results.

Regards, Alexander
Členem od Mar 14, 2012   61 příspěvků
Apr 10, 2014 at 10:38
Sorry Wolfgang, but I'm not so good at the abreviations: AS IS?
Členem od Mar 14, 2012   61 příspěvků
Apr 10, 2014 at 12:31
Hello Alexander,

You wrote somewhere that you are aiming at a Managed Account solution with ProFX during the autumn. Is it for sure or at what stage is the planning?

Regards
Členem od Jan 16, 2014   416 příspěvků
Apr 11, 2014 at 09:16
SVEEUK1 posted:
Hello Alexander,
You wrote somewhere that you are aiming at a Managed Account solution with ProFX during the autumn. Is it for sure or at what stage is the planning?
Regards

Hello, it is still in the planning phase. Final decision will be made later this year.

Regards, Alexander
Členem od Aug 21, 2013   12 příspěvků
Apr 11, 2014 at 12:01
Alex, I think I mastered GBPUSD and now I am thinking about using your system on other pairs as well. Do you have any suggestions for me?
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