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Členem od Sep 01, 2015
23 příspěvků
Oct 24, 2016 at 07:21
leo23, can you confirmed that you can give 5% mthly return Guaranteed. Also max equity protection at 10% Guaranteed as well.
As far as i know fx has no guarantee, this is a Ponzi ?
As far as i know fx has no guarantee, this is a Ponzi ?
Členem od Oct 08, 2016
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Oct 24, 2016 at 09:13
Yes it is.....
Členem od Oct 12, 2016
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Oct 24, 2016 at 09:13
wmsgfred posted:
leo23, can you confirmed that you can give 5% mthly return Guaranteed. Also max equity protection at 10% Guaranteed as well.
As far as i know fx has no guarantee, this is a Ponzi ?
Yes, I 99% guarantee that we can achieve 5% monthly with a maximum 10% equity protection. But it is not a 100% guaranty every month, because it again depends on spread of the broker where you use the system and hence, it may vary between 4% to 6% per month which was there in this system. But we will use 10% protection to achieve similar results.
If you use a broker with good spread, then it can be up to 6% or 8% even with 10% equity protection. But with broker with bad execution and high spread, it can be 4% or more per month.
Regarding the flash crash events, neither me nor any bank will guarantee regarding this. Hence, I don't guarantee on monthly profits for that particular month if flash crash will occur. But as we mentioned earlier in the post we can use FIX API with our system and can even switch to a direct bank feed instead of a broker connection if really large investors are interested to achieve 5% monthly with 10% protection.
So if flash crash will happen, then investors should not panic as how to cover the loss of equity protection because within next 2 months you can cover the entire loss amount if you use 10% protection with 5% monthly target.
But for 5% monthly and 45% protection, you have to wait for approximately 8 months to cover the loss. Hence, investors should carefully consider this.
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Členem od May 19, 2015
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Oct 24, 2016 at 09:55
(Upravené Oct 24, 2016 at 10:00)
fx4btc posted:
What a joke. does BB33 know absolutely nothing about liquidity? It's not PriorFX fault. Please wake up people and look at the real scenario here. If you don't understand liquidity and the risks for trying to close positions during an illiquid moment you don't belong in Leveraged investments. I documented the GBP flash crash on my blog and it doesn't matter what RETAIL FX brokerage you use. Every single brokerage faced the same issue. It's called lack of liquidity because the market makers turned off their algos. You can not close your orders at a 45% cut off point when there is not a counter party to take your trade.
Stoplosses that are sent to your broker does not fix the issue during these events. The stoploss price is a request to fill an order and is subject to slippage based on the available price given to you by the liquidity provider.
The fact that BB33 wants to move to another broker is outrageous to me and @arielkorber is absolutely correct in option 2.
Thumbs up, right on point lol.
Really for retail traders, the way we trade, the money we have is likely 95% will lose money. If they really want to avoid all these, then go for vanilla options trading, pay a small premium and that's the maximum loss. Else, any provider including bank cannot give you the quote in this market when flash crash. They all subject to live price and feeds from the open market. So any live position is at risk every second.
forex_trader_314834
Členem od Mar 25, 2016
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Oct 25, 2016 at 06:19
eruditeX posted:fx4btc posted:
What a joke. does BB33 know absolutely nothing about liquidity? It's not PriorFX fault. Please wake up people and look at the real scenario here. If you don't understand liquidity and the risks for trying to close positions during an illiquid moment you don't belong in Leveraged investments. I documented the GBP flash crash on my blog and it doesn't matter what RETAIL FX brokerage you use. Every single brokerage faced the same issue. It's called lack of liquidity because the market makers turned off their algos. You can not close your orders at a 45% cut off point when there is not a counter party to take your trade.
Stoplosses that are sent to your broker does not fix the issue during these events. The stoploss price is a request to fill an order and is subject to slippage based on the available price given to you by the liquidity provider.
The fact that BB33 wants to move to another broker is outrageous to me and @arielkorber is absolutely correct in option 2.
Thumbs up, right on point lol.
Really for retail traders, the way we trade, the money we have is likely 95% will lose money. If they really want to avoid all these, then go for vanilla options trading, pay a small premium and that's the maximum loss. Else, any provider including bank cannot give you the quote in this market when flash crash. They all subject to live price and feeds from the open market. So any live position is at risk every second.
And which fx vanilla options strategy can generate 5% monthly?
I looked at naked put selling and my calculations showed the same profit as stock options 10-15, max 20% per year.
Maybe there is another way using fx vanilla options to generate more profit?
Členem od Apr 12, 2016
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Oct 26, 2016 at 06:52
Hey BP33
Why did you deleted your account ?
What must we do with our Prior fx investor account ?
How can we do to follow you and when will you start a new account ?
THANKS FOR YOUR ANSWER
Best regards.
Why did you deleted your account ?
What must we do with our Prior fx investor account ?
How can we do to follow you and when will you start a new account ?
THANKS FOR YOUR ANSWER
Best regards.
Členem od Mar 18, 2016
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Oct 26, 2016 at 08:59
Yesterday I received an email from PRIORFX, which reads as follows: "You can opt to join PriorFX Recovery Trading System Which we believe is less risky and Generates profits to cover your losses and restore your balance up to 45% loss level without charging any performance and / or success fee. Should you need more details Please feel free to contact us for more information on This system. "
Guys, what is this? You received also you?
Someone can explain?
Guys, what is this? You received also you?
Someone can explain?
Členem od Mar 21, 2016
16 příspěvků
Oct 26, 2016 at 09:01
@BP33
The fact that you have deleted your account has made me lose trust in you. I deplore the fact that MyFXBook allows people who have lost millions of dollars on their investors behalf to just erase their ugly past with the click of a mouse. I feel that your duty BP33 would be to remain in the seat and trade your way back out of the issue, accepting that you will not receive any successfees until the job is done. Instead, you chose to run away to another provider, and erase all trace of the past, and enjoy new successfees, leaving past investors in the dust.
In all your communication so far you have been pedantic and condescending, and now you chose to be silent and just run. I hope that anyone who ever considers you as a potential fund manager in the future reads my post and takes it as a warning.
WARNING TO ALL: BP33 has a good algo that tends to function well, particularly because balance and equity usually follow each other closely. But BEWARE: it occasionally has significant drops of equity which blocks fast response in the case of a crash. BP33 tends to ignore large market issues such as the recent Brexit and blindly trusts his algo. And once problems arise, BP33 refuses to take responsibility and just runs. If you choose to invest in PB33's algo, then make sure that you limit the total amount that you risk AND that you take our your winnings on a monthly basis. This way, if the algo crashes, you will hopefully have been taking money out long enough to not suffer a (significant) loss.
The fact that you have deleted your account has made me lose trust in you. I deplore the fact that MyFXBook allows people who have lost millions of dollars on their investors behalf to just erase their ugly past with the click of a mouse. I feel that your duty BP33 would be to remain in the seat and trade your way back out of the issue, accepting that you will not receive any successfees until the job is done. Instead, you chose to run away to another provider, and erase all trace of the past, and enjoy new successfees, leaving past investors in the dust.
In all your communication so far you have been pedantic and condescending, and now you chose to be silent and just run. I hope that anyone who ever considers you as a potential fund manager in the future reads my post and takes it as a warning.
WARNING TO ALL: BP33 has a good algo that tends to function well, particularly because balance and equity usually follow each other closely. But BEWARE: it occasionally has significant drops of equity which blocks fast response in the case of a crash. BP33 tends to ignore large market issues such as the recent Brexit and blindly trusts his algo. And once problems arise, BP33 refuses to take responsibility and just runs. If you choose to invest in PB33's algo, then make sure that you limit the total amount that you risk AND that you take our your winnings on a monthly basis. This way, if the algo crashes, you will hopefully have been taking money out long enough to not suffer a (significant) loss.
It's never too late
Členem od May 16, 2012
26 příspěvků
Oct 26, 2016 at 11:55
(Upravené Oct 26, 2016 at 12:00)
BP33 posted:
Hi All,
2) It appears PriorFX did not stop out investors correctly at 45%.
If you are one of those investors affected you should have already made a complaint to the regulator.
This is the most concerning comment from BP33.
It demonstrates a complete ignorance of market structure, no knowledge of liquidity, and no understanding of what a flash crash involves.
To put it simply, THERE WERE NO BUYERS AT OUR 45% STOP-LOSS LEVEL. Sell orders were being triggered as the market plunged and these were not being filled, driving prices lower. We needed buyers to get out of our position.
If you dont understand that you dont understand markets and should not be trading other people's money.
Členem od Feb 20, 2014
12 příspěvků
Oct 26, 2016 at 12:10
macorrales posted:
Yesterday I received an email from PRIORFX, which reads as follows: "You can opt to join PriorFX Recovery Trading System Which we believe is less risky and Generates profits to cover your losses and restore your balance up to 45% loss level without charging any performance and / or success fee. Should you need more details Please feel free to contact us for more information on This system. "
Guys, what is this? You received also you?
Someone can explain?
Hi
I got this message too. Do not know if I want to risk more money in other people hands. What about you @macorrales or others who have got this message?
Členem od May 11, 2016
2 příspěvků
Oct 26, 2016 at 14:26
Dear all
Rescue level is like a Stop loss it means No guaranteed when we got like flash crash or gap down or big volatile such as chf crash.
I don't know about PriorFX more then BP33 but i can tell you in this case, does not matter which one your broker because anyone not helping us on this matter."The possibility exists that you could sustain a loss of some or all of your initial investment and therefore you should not invest money that you cannot afford to lose"
There some other algo systems still continue with Sector Capital, you can recover your loss within few months but do not forget about above paragraph about risk.
http://www.pamm4profit.com/pamm-accounts
Rescue level is like a Stop loss it means No guaranteed when we got like flash crash or gap down or big volatile such as chf crash.
I don't know about PriorFX more then BP33 but i can tell you in this case, does not matter which one your broker because anyone not helping us on this matter."The possibility exists that you could sustain a loss of some or all of your initial investment and therefore you should not invest money that you cannot afford to lose"
There some other algo systems still continue with Sector Capital, you can recover your loss within few months but do not forget about above paragraph about risk.
http://www.pamm4profit.com/pamm-accounts
forex_trader_314834
Členem od Mar 25, 2016
58 příspěvků
Oct 26, 2016 at 14:42
kamjo posted:macorrales posted:
Yesterday I received an email from PRIORFX, which reads as follows: "You can opt to join PriorFX Recovery Trading System Which we believe is less risky and Generates profits to cover your losses and restore your balance up to 45% loss level without charging any performance and / or success fee. Should you need more details Please feel free to contact us for more information on This system. "
Guys, what is this? You received also you?
Someone can explain?
Hi
I got this message too. Do not know if I want to risk more money in other people hands. What about you @macorrales or others who have got this message?
I have only lost so far on using managed accounts. I now run my own EAs and I can close positions when I want to, not when other think so.
Členem od Nov 01, 2015
41 příspěvků
Oct 27, 2016 at 09:24
@BP33 for the next broker, I would recommend you a FCA or ASIC regulated broker that allows managed accounts (some suggestions: ActivTrades, IC Markets, Pepperstone, Vantage Fx).
Členem od Mar 13, 2011
3 příspěvků
Oct 27, 2016 at 14:19
In case you forgot that Martingale algorithms always will end up please take a look here (now that the myfxbook account has been deleted):
http://www.sectorcapital.dk/sector-1m/#top
Actually this account was not completely blown up but almost. Seems like the other Sector Capital accounts also hold some kind of Grid or Martingale so please be very careful in any future allocation to these systems being offered (look at the scary but super tempting account profit accumulation but please do not forget the equity draw down that shows the underlying and unhealthy system). If many trades are being closed at the exact same time it's usually Grid or Martingale so watch out for that. Demand to see trade record (closed orders and trade time stamps) and equity DD prior to investing.
Sector one clearly had Martingale and the account does not seem to have been deleted by the provider yet. Shame that the myfxbook was deleted.
I hate to see yet another myfxbook account blown (or almost blown) and the account then being deleted. Unfortunately I know it is bound to happen many times going forward. It is the small retail investor who takes all the risk and always loose their investments in these Martingale set-up's.
This is Martingale. Not Ponzi.
Both are evils that the world would be better of without.
http://www.sectorcapital.dk/sector-1m/#top
Actually this account was not completely blown up but almost. Seems like the other Sector Capital accounts also hold some kind of Grid or Martingale so please be very careful in any future allocation to these systems being offered (look at the scary but super tempting account profit accumulation but please do not forget the equity draw down that shows the underlying and unhealthy system). If many trades are being closed at the exact same time it's usually Grid or Martingale so watch out for that. Demand to see trade record (closed orders and trade time stamps) and equity DD prior to investing.
Sector one clearly had Martingale and the account does not seem to have been deleted by the provider yet. Shame that the myfxbook was deleted.
I hate to see yet another myfxbook account blown (or almost blown) and the account then being deleted. Unfortunately I know it is bound to happen many times going forward. It is the small retail investor who takes all the risk and always loose their investments in these Martingale set-up's.
This is Martingale. Not Ponzi.
Both are evils that the world would be better of without.
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pehn12345@
Členem od Mar 13, 2011
3 příspěvků
Oct 27, 2016 at 14:22
minor but important correction:
"Sector one clearly had Martingale and the account does not seem to have been deleted by the provider yet. Shame that the myfxbook was deleted."
should be replaced with:
"Sector one clearly had Martingale and the account does now seem to have been deleted by the provider. Shame that the myfxbook was deleted."
"Sector one clearly had Martingale and the account does not seem to have been deleted by the provider yet. Shame that the myfxbook was deleted."
should be replaced with:
"Sector one clearly had Martingale and the account does now seem to have been deleted by the provider. Shame that the myfxbook was deleted."
pehn12345@
forex_trader_314834
Členem od Mar 25, 2016
58 příspěvků
Oct 28, 2016 at 07:36
Averaging is not martingale.
Martingale is doubling your amount risked when the trade before resulted in a loss.
Martingale is doubling your amount risked when the trade before resulted in a loss.
forex_trader_314834
Členem od Mar 25, 2016
58 příspěvků
Oct 28, 2016 at 07:41
The problem with counter trend trading which is a valid approach in forex unless you can prove otherwise is related to the high leverage and when reaching scenarios not encountered in historical data, say the range between high and low.
If the latter has not been tested then it is better just to close all trades at a certain level because once you are in it is hard to get out unless you hedged from the start.
If the latter has not been tested then it is better just to close all trades at a certain level because once you are in it is hard to get out unless you hedged from the start.
Členem od Mar 18, 2016
9 příspěvků
Oct 28, 2016 at 08:39
Has anyone asked PriorFx more information on "rehabilitation system accounts" that give us?
Členem od Feb 20, 2014
12 příspěvků
Nov 08, 2016 at 12:33
Has anybody joined the recovery system? And what are your thoughts about it?
Členem od Jun 27, 2016
9 příspěvků
Nov 08, 2016 at 12:50
I sent an email to join last week but the told me I have to wait until the get en expression of interest.
Did anyone m management join?
Did anyone m management join?
