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Anyone who trades more than 15 currency pairs at a time?

johnnycash
Mar 08 2014 at 01:11
28 mensajes
i would trade all instruments that my broker offers; so far i have traded 45 instruments

... i dont know why that shows lack of concentration ... more pairs = more opportunities

PipGnostic
TheCyclist (TheCyclist)
Mar 08 2014 at 01:26
724 mensajes
And hedging by the way is a fallacy. Very few people I know can keep a fx portfolio hedged. Open a long eurusd and a long usdchf to the same value and see what happens to your NAV...


ProTradersGroup (ProTradersGroup)
Mar 08 2014 at 09:01
386 mensajes
johnnycash posted:
 more pairs = more opportunities


Totally agree with you!

Our Pro Trader trade... everything and make +55% profit with drawdown just 5.87% only since 01.23.2014 (1.5 month) on real account.


ZOOM
Mar 08 2014 at 10:57
39 mensajes
If you are inexperienced or new you can't hedge. Of course you can't hedge 1:1 on a FX portfolio! And what kind of an idiot is going to go for a such a massive hedge in response to an assuming large trade so that you gonna get badly hit on the NAV. Doesn't make sense. Thought you can get some rough hedging still even on a FX portfolio.

As for the 15 pairs, I meant trading it all the same time. What's the point of dipping your toes in 1 meaningless trade a month? And again even if you follow a code it still makes no sense trading 15 pairs when you can focus far more on less pairs - least of all put your money to a better use.


Ivan C
ivanyo (ivanyo)
Mar 08 2014 at 10:58
3 mensajes
I trader 30+, but I am only ever in 1 or 2 open positions.

I don't believe in sticking to 1 or 2 currencies and hunting for trades. I agree more pairs = more opportunities. You just have to be smart as to when you are taking them.

johnnycash
Mar 08 2014 at 14:36
28 mensajes
@ZOOM there are people that trade on the daily/weekly charts ... get it in your mind that these people dont need to be focussed staring at the screen all day long ... everything you said may be true for shorttrem traders, for long term traders is pure nonsense

ZOOM
Mar 11 2014 at 07:59
39 mensajes
I absolutely agree more pairs = more opportunity.

What I'm saying is the higher the number of pairs you are trading the less concentrated your trading becomes, unless there is some very good reason, way better than a small daily swing, something like a great opportunity ahead.

@johnnycash What I'm talking about is more of long-term trading, far longer than 1-day time-frame. If you trade way too many pairs in a very short intra-day time frame wouldn't the chances be far higher you would get hit at a SL on a pair or your NAV will go down because there will be too many unpredictable swings. So tell me, why would it be nonsense to stay under 15 pairs for long term traders?

johnnycash
Mar 11 2014 at 09:43
28 mensajes
no, I did not say that trading 15 or less pairs is nonsense; I just said that its nonsense that you lose focus when its more than 15 pairs and timeframes like daily or weekly. I guess we misunderstood each other.

joopbuis
Mar 11 2014 at 15:25
4 mensajes
We are experimenting with 28 pairs based on 8 currencystrengths.
Most open at one time was 24.
This is automatic of course because it is on 15 minute tf.

togr (togr)
Mar 14 2014 at 12:21
4862 mensajes
TheCyclist posted:
@ZOOM

That's just bullshit. Most who does that amount of pairs, do it using code. That I guarantee you. And they have an appropriate system for it.

And if it's a manual system, like swing trading, the volumes can be as low as a trade per month. Trend is easily 6 weeks, so you have to adjust say 24 trades every 6 weeks. Not very busy is it ?!

And then you can still automate your alarms, so you don't even have to look, you only look on an alarm.


amen to that brother.
Trading more pairs is great way to reduce DD and keep stable profit. Of course this is done in real time by automated trading systems.
Like this:)

Currency

Trades

Pips

Profit($)

Trades

Pips

Profit($)

Trades

Pips

Profit($)

Won (%)

Lost (%)
 
 USDJPY 88 996.6 10.08 112 -809.7 14.55 200 186.9 24.63 134 (67%) 66 (33%)
AUDUSD 89 -377.2 12.21 108 34.7 11.65 197 -342.5 23.86 125 (63%) 72 (37%)
NZDCHF 107 835.8 11.82 90 553.0 14.25 197 1388.8 26.07 132 (67%) 65 (33%)
GBPCAD 156 1838.0 20.00 150 -6401.5 23.50 306 -4563.5 43.50 199 (65%) 107 (35%)
GBPNZD 124 1668.4 13.55 162 1151.4 18.86 286 2819.8 32.41 191 (67%) 95 (33%)
EURJPY 113 1697.3 17.09 117 628.8 18.08 230 2326.1 35.17 155 (67%) 75 (33%)
CHFJPY 116 1470.6 14.80 167 -678.0 15.80 283 792.6 30.60 179 (63%) 104 (37%)
EURGBP 67 303.3 9.39 104 941.9 14.96 171 1245.2 24.35 106 (62%) 65 (38%)
NZDUSD 107 1029.0 11.70 137 -1740.8 15.59 244 -711.8 27.29 146 (60%) 98 (40%)
AUDCAD 107 -1998.7 13.89 130 534.2 17.52 237 -1464.5 31.41 153 (65%) 84 (35%)
AUDNZD 98 -7242.5 22.15 102 1123.8 13.15 200 -6118.7 35.30 124 (62%) 76 (38%)
AUDJPY 93 -552.4 14.12 140 55.0 16.19 233 -497.4 30.31 155 (67%) 78 (33%)
EURNZD 56 1008.8 7.97 140 -3370.5 17.26 196 -2361.7 25.23 136 (69%) 60 (31%)
EURAUD 63 126.9 8.95 98 -5036.3 18.92 161 -4909.4 27.87 98 (61%) 63 (39%)
GBPAUD 105 910.3 14.91 82 220.3 11.57 187 1130.6 26.48 127 (68%) 60 (32%)
EURCAD 119 579.3 13.89 129 372.8 15.43 248 952.1 29.32 163 (66%) 85 (34%)
GBPJPY 137 1734.6 17.68 159 633.9 21.63 296 2368.5 39.31 192 (65%) 104 (35%)
GBPCHF 82 1003.6 11.10 132 1193.9 23.73 214 2197.5 34.83 147 (69%) 67 (31%)
EURCHF 38 395.9 5.05 64 185.5 7.90 102 581.4 12.95 67 (66%) 35 (34%)
GBPUSD 101 -1925.7 17.82 95 -295.6 11.53 196 -2221.3 29.35 126 (64%) 70 (36%)
CADJPY 121 -2709.4 17.25 141 611.2 17.86 262 -2098.2 35.11 167 (64%) 95 (36%)
USDCAD 118 618.0 10.70 116 -851.1 14.33 234 -233.1 25.03 151 (65%) 83 (35%)
NZDJPY 120 1067.8 15.31 142 1456.0 17.45 262 2523.8 32.76 174 (66%) 88 (34%)
AUDCHF 89 251.6 9.73 92 1410.8 14.31 181 1662.4 24.04 126 (70%) 55 (30%)
USDCHF 105 792.5 11.01 111 1288.2 15.10 216 2080.7 26.11 145 (67%) 71 (33%)
EURUSD 88 667.5 8.35 104 832.7 10.20 192 1500.2 18.55 131 (68%) 61 (32%)

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