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"Xenon" System, trading with 1min Chart.

Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 15 2012 at 06:32
posts 173
greetings,

I am back as 'xenon'.
you may remember I was working on semiautomated system 'somehow'.

I had some improvments and started to a new demo account to exercise.
I will soon start a Live account and publish it here at MFB.

I will share details of how I trade and open for critics and advises.

walker
Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 15 2012 at 06:38
posts 173
there are 2 trades taken today

a short and long.
both winners.


Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 15 2012 at 06:39
posts 173
sorry correct pic.

the above is the EG screen.



Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 15 2012 at 06:41
posts 173
I had made some changes on 'somehow'.

after working on MFE-MAE data I did tighten the SL and reversed the RR ratio to TP favor.
this prevent me from big SL and Big losses that effect me mentally.

walker
Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 15 2012 at 06:43
posts 173
why I call this system as semiautomated is I do not draw any line to the chart. EA is doing all and I have more time to think and react.

Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 15 2012 at 11:38
posts 173
today I had up to %1.25. I lost my risk appetite but kept trading. then down to -%12 and then again up to %1.50. now stopped.
if it would be live I would have %0.25 additional gain on the other hand broker would get rich!!

walker
Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 15 2012 at 11:38
posts 173
BTW EU was very bumpy at 1.3050 level. to many back and forth!
Paul Ng (paulng)
Mar 15 2012 at 19:34
posts 43
Hi Steve,

First of all, congrats on your consecutive winners. The pictures are rather 'intense', and got me confused. Your vertical arrows measure the zig-zag high-low distances?

You doing a Fib fan + retracement combo? Or some quant method based on the various real-time measurements on screen? It's always refreshing to see proprietary EA in action. 😀

Yeah, Eur looking for direction. I'm guessing a retest near 1.34, fast and furious price action if I'm right.

Cheers,
Paul
"The first rule of forecasting should be that the unforeseen keeps making the future unforeseeable." - David McCasland (January 5,2012, Our Daily Bread)
David
kennen
Mar 15 2012 at 22:12
posts 16
Nice job and congratulations!
Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 16 2012 at 01:08
posts 173
Hi Paul

vertical lines only for trade entry indicators.
I do not use fibo or others. no indicators only trend lines and MA 30 and 200 expo.

regards
walker


   paulng posted:
   Hi Steve,

First of all, congrats on your consecutive winners. The pictures are rather 'intense', and got me confused. Your vertical arrows measure the zig-zag high-low distances?

You doing a Fib fan + retracement combo? Or some quant method based on the various real-time measurements on screen? It's always refreshing to see proprietary EA in action. 😀

Yeah, Eur looking for direction. I'm guessing a retest near 1.34, fast and furious price action if I'm right.

Cheers,
Paul

Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 16 2012 at 01:08
posts 173
thanks David.


   kennen posted:
   Nice job and congratulations!
Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 16 2012 at 01:11
posts 173
yesterdays conclusion:

EU was very bumpy. I had some loosing trades in secs. if you look at the history there are bunch of trades were stop out in seconds. the reason is the SL is around 3-4 PIP and price was very fast Up & down.

I could have %10 today but made some wrong desecions.
but tight SL keeping me away from big losses.

walker


   xenon posted:
   today I had up to %1.25. I lost my risk appetite but kept trading. then down to -%12 and then again up to %1.50. now stopped.
if it would be live I would have %0.25 additional gain on the other hand broker would get rich!!

walker
Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 16 2012 at 02:03
posts 173
MFE-MAE data


3.77 -3.37
MFE MAE
GBPUSD Demo 149836 3/2/2012 2:18:23 0.00 -11.43
GBPUSD Demo 149836 3/2/2012 2:50:33 3.99 -3.21
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/2/2012 2:51:1 2.99 -5.61
GBPUSD Demo 149836 3/2/2012 3:1:3 1.40 -1.00
GBPUSD Demo 149836 3/2/2012 16:4:47 1.40 -0.50
GBPUSD Demo 149836 3/2/2012 16:41:24 1.80 -4.80
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/2/2012 17:59:31 6.10 -2.90
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/5/2012 15:19:36 0.50 -3.10
GBPUSD Demo 149836 3/5/2012 16:41:44 0.00 -7.40
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/5/2012 17:31:18 5.50 -3.30
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/5/2012 18:59:1 4.80 -6.20
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/5/2012 19:48:23 5.60 -1.70
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/6/2012 16:58:45 6.30 -0.40
GBPUSD Demo 149836 3/6/2012 18:58:55 2.20 -2.90
GBPUSD Demo 149836 3/7/2012 15:25:27 0.00 -5.90
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/7/2012 15:38:47 7.50 -3.70
GBPUSD Demo 149836 3/7/2012 17:25:4 5.30 -2.90
GBPUSD Demo 149836 3/7/2012 19:15:25 1.70 -2.20
GBPUSD Demo 149836 3/8/2012 8:26:18 4.60 -4.20
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/8/2012 17:51:27 0.00 -6.90
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/8/2012 17:58:30 0.10 -6.60
GBPUSD Demo 149836 3/8/2012 18:16:34 8.00 -1.60
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/8/2012 18:17:4 5.80 -1.70
GBPUSD Demo 149836 3/8/2012 18:32:5 5.20 -1.10
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/8/2012 19:42:46 5.70 -0.60
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/9/2012 16:56:30 4.80 -18.10
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/9/2012 17:3:59 2.90 -13.65
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/9/2012 17:8:31 7.50 0.00
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/9/2012 17:19:55 7.60 -10.10
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/9/2012 17:22:42 0.00 -0.40
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/9/2012 17:27:4 7.50 -3.90
EURUSD Demo 149836 3/9/2012 17:35:14 5.15 -6.70
EURUSD Demo 149836 12/3/2012 5:10:40 5.40 -0.70
EURUSD Demo 149836 12/3/2012 19:18:54 3.90 -0.70
EURUSD Demo 149836 12/3/2012 20:35:40 5.40 -0.70
GBPUSD Demo 149836 13/3/2012 16:57:5 0.00 -6.30
EURUSD Demo 149836 13/3/2012 17:4:29 0.00 -6.60
GBPUSD Demo 149836 13/3/2012 17:32:59 5.60 -7.30
GBPUSD Demo 149836 13/3/2012 17:54:44 5.90 -4.00
EURUSD Demo 149836 13/3/2012 18:42:13 6.00 -2.90
EURUSD Demo 149836 13/3/2012 18:58:6 3.10 -6.00
EURUSD Demo 149836 13/3/2012 19:0:31 0.00 -5.30
EURUSD Demo 149836 13/3/2012 19:49:56 6.60 -3.00
GBPUSD Demo 149836 13/3/2012 20:9:33 5.70 -1.40
EURUSD Demo 149836 13/3/2012 22:25:47 4.40 -6.10
EURUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 3:55:49 1.60 -3.20
EURUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 4:8:15 4.80 -2.70
EURUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 4:56:3 3.80 -2.90
EURUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 5:21:35 5.20 -2.10
EURUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 6:16:43 1.50 -3.90
EURUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 7:24:29 3.50 -2.80
GBPUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 8:57:56 0.00 -3.80
EURUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 9:4:35 4.90 -3.20
EURUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 9:8:50 2.20 -2.80
EURUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 9:22:11 10.30 -2.10
GBPUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 9:32:39 2.90 -1.40
GBPUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 11:3:49 3.40 -4.30
GBPUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 11:18:38 8.20 -1.90
GBPUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 11:43:57 2.40 -1.30
GBPUSD Demo 149836 14/3/2012 11:49:59 6.10 -0.90
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 7:5:22 2.00 -0.80
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 7:27:11 0.00 -2.50
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 8:46:40 5.60 -2.20
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 9:8:58 6.10 -2.10
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 10:49:4 3.10 -3.00
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 11:0:7 0.20 -3.50
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 11:15:49 2.80 -4.90
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 11:21:40 6.90 -1.00
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 11:31:54 6.50 -0.60
GBPUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 11:37:16 6.20 -1.70
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 11:45:37 3.10 -4.60
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 11:47:39 0.00 -5.00
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 11:49:56 6.80 -1.10
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 11:54:38 6.70 -0.20
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 11:58:18 5.90 0.00
GBPUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 12:3:47 0.00 -4.40
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 12:8:15 2.70 -1.00
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 12:10:4 5.60 -0.80
GBPUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 12:12:6 0.00 -3.00
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 12:18:35 3.90 -1.40
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 12:36:4 0.00 -3.40
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 12:47:44 3.60 -3.40
GBPUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 13:1:9 4.50 -3.00
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 13:9:51 1.40 -3.00
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 13:16:2 1.30 -3.00
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 13:17:4 0.00 -3.10
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 13:27:52 2.05 -3.85
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 13:32:20 9.20 -1.50
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 13:40:20 5.30 -1.10
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 13:47:49 2.90 -3.00
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 13:51:49 3.00 -2.10
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 13:58:59 4.60 -2.30
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 14:4:26 2.30 -3.30
EURUSD Demo 149836 15/3/2012 14:29:55 5.10 -1.90
Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 16 2012 at 23:57
posts 173
I had traded 2 weeks with 1min chart with average daily %1.30 daily goal. then suddenly the day I publish account I had > %90 DD in some hours.

2 weeks of trading with 1 min chart is equals to trading day of 600 days of 1 Hr chart trading according to bar count.


what went wrong:

- I did not enter 5 winners at the very start of the session. and then entered 2 loosers. that was the trigger.
- I did tighten SL default value at EA side. this caused 3 issues.
  a- EA could not set SL on 3 GU trades with error 130 and those 3 winners closed as soon as I opened the trade by EA due to no SL set by the EA.
  b- GU spread is 2x of EU spread and some GU trades Stop out as soon as I opened due to very tight SL.
  c- with that error 130 combined an EA code error cost me some trades also
- I started to trade grid with 3 PIP SL instead of patters. due I do not want to close the day with %3 loss
- increasing Lot size combined with grid type SL trade
- CHARTS WERE FREEZING 10-20 SECS THEN MAKING ALL THOSE TICS AT ONCE IN 1 SEC. I had that when trading live but that was 10 times a day and duration was 2-3 minutes then chart was printing 2-3 bars at once. this time it was continious action of freezing and printing at once. this caused me bead entry levels then I expected.
       the result of that
  a- I had missed to many trades with < 0.50 PIP and can not exit manually due the chart freezes. when chart was printed it was away from TP level.
  b- I had stop out with < 0.50 PIP due to bad entry level.

WHAT CAN BE FIXED:

- I had stop trading with bigger lot sizes at all. same lot size for a week.
- I had cancel price averaging enrty system.
- code error fixed.
- FIX SL default set to original level as it was for 2 weeks.

the most important point is I should suffer loss for some days and stop trading.

nothing is wrong. that s way brokers has demo accounts and traders test themselves.

walker

Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 17 2012 at 00:02
posts 173
I will keep trading same account. when I feel confident and feel that I fixed the issues will start live.

walker
Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 17 2012 at 00:27
posts 173
I have self coded market depth indicator. this works well. but the I also need to code a market liquidaiton level indicator. when market is not liquid like yesterday I must stop trading until it gets liquid. this will prevent me from freezing charts issue.
this is most probably happening on impact 5 news days. market waits until the news hours.
Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 17 2012 at 00:35
posts 173
I had a proof of market condition for yesterday

I am checking the average spread of pepperstone razor account every week from MFB.

the average spread for
EU : 0.50 PIP
EG : 0.70 PIP
GU : 1.00 PIP

but yesterday the values are
EU : 0.70 PIP
EG : 0.90 PIP
GU : 1.30 PIP

it is around %30 higher the expected.

I will code the market liquid level and see what will give me.
Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 17 2012 at 02:34
posts 173
I had coded the liquidation level indicator.
must be tested with market action and then I will see if it can give me some information as depth indi.


   xenon posted:
   I have self coded market depth indicator. this works well. but the I also need to code a market liquidaiton level indicator. when market is not liquid like yesterday I must stop trading until it gets liquid. this will prevent me from freezing charts issue.
this is most probably happening on impact 5 news days. market waits until the news hours.

Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 17 2012 at 17:01
posts 173
I had changed the MM. when I loose a certain level as %2 daily or had daily goal then lot size will be decreased 1/5 instead of increasing 5/1.
I will apply the reverse of what I am doing.

walker
Steve Walker
xenon
Mar 19 2012 at 05:25
posts 173
Indicator on test.
till now what I found is relatively 1 Min Bar time is now up to 2 min. this sound weird but math never fails. I will wait until market get liquid and see how the indi react. if it reduce down to 1=1 then it is correct and usable.

average tick/bar is 8-12 which is very very slow to trade.

this was killed me on friday. But without testing and learning on demo I can not fix the issues.

walker



   xenon posted:
   I had coded the liquidation level indicator.
must be tested with market action and then I will see if it can give me some information as depth indi.


   xenon posted:
   I have self coded market depth indicator. this works well. but the I also need to code a market liquidaiton level indicator. when market is not liquid like yesterday I must stop trading until it gets liquid. this will prevent me from freezing charts issue.
this is most probably happening on impact 5 news days. market waits until the news hours.

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