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I bought EA from one of the guys here that approached me,

webusy
Jun 04 2014 at 13:45
posts 3
Please I want to share something with everyone on here, but before I do and mention the name ,I hope the person will contact me cause after making certain amount of payment and saw the way this fellow operates my brother told his friend and they both came after me saying I planned with this guy that approached me from this site to take money from him . I have also mailed him, I try to call him and also on Skype where we have our regular conversation and all agreement of the deal of buying is EA, my brother is an army and I have suffered a lot from him having to come and move my things in place of his money given to this guy selling EA on here. I fought with my brother over the weekend for the same so he wouldn't come after him, cause his in the USA Army. He put in deep trouble and mess before my family as well, they now see me as a betrayal to my brother

PipGnostic
TheCyclist
Jun 05 2014 at 06:23
posts 724
I doubt your brother is in the US army mate. Need to be able to speak english for that.

vontogr (togr)
Jun 05 2014 at 10:32
posts 4862
webusy posted:
Please I want to share something with everyone on here, but before I do and mention the name ,I hope the person will contact me cause after making certain amount of payment and saw the way this fellow operates my brother told his friend and they both came after me saying I planned with this guy that approached me from this site to take money from him . I have also mailed him, I try to call him and also on Skype where we have our regular conversation and all agreement of the deal of buying is EA, my brother is an army and I have suffered a lot from him having to come and move my things in place of his money given to this guy selling EA on here. I fought with my brother over the weekend for the same so he wouldn't come after him, cause his in the USA Army. He put in deep trouble and mess before my family as well, they now see me as a betrayal to my brother


Hey man,

I am not sure you are on right forum.
This is Forex forum.
Your story about your brother should go somewhere else

jeffthompson
Jun 06 2014 at 07:38
posts 1
The thing is about anything that anyone purchases, a purchase is of choice, so surely no-one forced this purchase? Not every single trader is purchasing this EA so maybe many other traders realise that purchasing an EA from someone less known is not necessarily the best direction to take, despite how assuring it may have appeared. Obtaining items & purchases that turn out less than expectation can often cause distress though one needs to accept that they had the choice to avoid the contract in the first place and therefore should accept part blame. Move on with your life and learn from it I'd say though thankfully by posting the issue your experience does help others in avoiding similar mistakes :-)

MarginCall
Jun 06 2014 at 09:41
posts 45
Nobody sells EA that works. That's a fact.

lense
Jun 07 2014 at 09:01
posts 3
Only one person here is approaching everyone on here and in other places ADRIAN MATUSIAK and so far all he does is ask people to pay him for EA , wont give you the EA but will ask you for more money and tell you your money only cover license, and after you ask for refund he cuts contact with you, WEBUSY you are wrong covering him and thinking he will give you your money is why you refuse to mention is name, so sorry for you brother. I did not fall for it but those who fell for it make me check fxbook and believe me WEBUSY with no doubt I know is Adrian, he has done this to so many people and now I see that on here he comments on PAMM.
PAMM is an investment arrangement and I think if nothing is done Quickly this guy being who he his a lot will see their fund and investment whipped out. I believe he's into something to get peoples money at all cost. Is disgusting to see what some post on here when others try to share their pain , but on the other hand I believe they all do the same as what Adrian is doing to people so they have nothing better to say.

Adrian Matusiak (adrian8891)
Jun 07 2014 at 23:06
posts 696
Wow! Nice words.

@lense , please don't destroy my name. I even don't know You, what's more, You even haven't asked me for quotation.
I never ask people for more money that's been agreed on. You get for what You pay, even if it's by mail, or by eBay or Polish acution site. Few of my customers even vouched me here and are very happy for robots and support.


What's more, seems like 'lense' and 'webusy' are same persons because I have only 1 situation of that kind. So maybe I will state it to other people:
Man 'webusy' or 'lense' (same person) have ordered 3ways from me. He had only 1/3 payment, so he told to pay 1/3 payment and I will run robot on my VPS till it earns 2/3 (rest of payment). I have agreed for that. I told him that 1/3 payment is for licence code and 2/3 payment will be for robot itself. He agreed. Next thing is that he input $1500 , I mentioned that it might be too low for long time trading. He agreed to trade on such amount. 3ways hasn't traded for 1,5 week so he get's angry (maybe because system doesn't make 10000 transactions daily :) ) and he told me fairy tailes about brother who withdrawaled money from account and left only $20 on account for trade (!)

In few days more, robot made from $20 , $32 (more than +50%!) so I told him to show it to his 'brother' and tell him that he would already have more than +50% from $1500.

Then he told me about refund of any kind. I said NO, because agreement was other. Paid money was for licence, so I can send him licence or he needs to fund his account to robot starts trading. He disagreed so I canno't help him. Last few days he ask me about PAMM but in some cheating way : I will find You investors for PAMM ($8000 in total) if You refund me money for licence!

I said again that I don't agree because robot is working good and its making profit, but his genious 'brother' withdrawaled money so it isn't my fault.

I had to block him on phone, because guy tried to call me at 1 am , 2am or even at 5am!

I had tried to make him understand it , but seems like to be an id**t to not understand.

Now, seems like nothings more is between us so please kindly check Your e-mail. I will send there licence code and that's all.
As I told You, there are few ways to make it good:

1. Make 2/3 payment and recievie robot
2. Fund Your account and let robot trade till You earn 2/3 payment
3. Fund on PAMM to make money more secure
4. Don't do nothing and I will send You licence

These are points that he doesn't understand.



About PAMM, yes I have opened PAMM account due to many question about managing accounts. What's more, just like @MarginCall said, I have finished selling EA due its results. Now only PAMM is available.


At the end I have to say that it isn't any arabic market where somebody cheats someone.

Greetings to all '1 posts'-ers ;) most reliable members :)

PAMM MANAGER // Professional Fund Manager
lense
Jun 08 2014 at 06:47
posts 3
Adrian you just proved what everyone is saying of you and those working with you to take peoples money, Now my question is webusy put on here what he went through with you, before then also another guy on here said the same and started saying he's reselling your robots which you posted here is lying he doesn't have the file and the guy said he ask for his money and you wouldn't refund his money, you went after him saying people shouldn't listen to him, and now you have stop selling EA now you have jumped to PAMM, Anyone who is sensible and with a good head on their shoulder by now know what you have been doing and what you are up to, Also the webmaster should open your ass up of all messages you are sending to people approaching them of your lies on how you are the alpha and omega of EA. webusy never mentioned your name hoping you will do right apparently the guy didn't know or regular on here to really know what people are saying about you. Now we know you have those you are working with on here to keep taking peoples money.
I will believe webusy and all others will come back and read this and post all you said to them and did to them,also post on here all your conversation, by then everyone should know better.

Adrian Matusiak (adrian8891)
Jun 08 2014 at 08:54
posts 696
Guy who is reselling EA has started it with very, very high risk and he lost it. Again not my fault and he is reselling it without my permission. Beside that, EA provided from him will not work because he have licence only for his account so it wont run on any other ea.

Thats all what I have to say to You. Now just You have to try create another accounts and join here.


You don't know rules that are on business, You dont understand what I write to You. And I will say it again - I WILL NOT DO BUSINESS AGAIN WITH ARABIC CHEATERS. What's more, You even don't know basics of propriety.

Best regards

PAMM MANAGER // Professional Fund Manager
Ingimundur
Jun 08 2014 at 12:39
posts 12
Hello,

I bought 3ways from Adrian and have been running, one from January 2014 and other from March 2014. The results can be seen on my profile site.

I think no one does listen to the person calling himself 'webusy' or 'lense'. He obviously does not understand Forex and risks involved. Forex is a risky place, but with knowledge/education and reasonable risk management you can profit from it.

3ways does not trade every day. It trades when right circumstances are on the market and sometimes it don´t trades for days. The results are nevertheless very good in my opinion. You could say that draw-down is to high but it can be controlled with lower risk and then of course lower return.

I did not now Adrian before I bought robot from him in end of December 2013. He has been very helpful and his service is very good. My experience from him is honest and nice guy.

Best regards,
Ingimundur


"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit."
VIP (makeitrain)
Jun 09 2014 at 16:30
posts 212
I think it will be very hard for us to know the truth, Unless more people with more post counts tell us if they been scammed. Although we never done business (due to my lack of funds) me and Adrian were in contact, he seemed honest and professional.

Regards

Get rich or just die
MarshallS
Jun 14 2014 at 13:45
posts 2
Hello,
 i have invest in adrian pamm and never problem. Adrian is very friendly and trust manager.

Gary Sharp myfxpt com
myfxpt
Jun 17 2014 at 06:47
posts 345
TheCyclist posted:
I doubt your brother is in the US army mate. Need to be able to speak english for that.


😎

tigpips
Jun 19 2014 at 11:33
posts 186
lol cyclist

http://www.freeforexrebates .info
ZOOM
Jun 23 2014 at 06:43
posts 39
Have only exchanged a few mails with Adrian. Never had any business with him but his responses were fast and pretty accurate for me to get a good grasp of what he was offering. I didn't buy the EA as I was researching various ones at the time, though I liked one which could match my own risk profiles. That's that.

But reading up here his explanations, they seem to make pretty good and far better sense than angry rant of someone who didn't even lose money. From what I understand Adrian made him over 50% gain with his EA and he didn't even fully pay for the service - assuming both sides are telling us the truth. Why should I, or anyone else for that matter, have any sympathy for someone whining he made money!???? 🙄

Gary Sharp myfxpt com
myfxpt
Jun 23 2014 at 09:34
posts 345
ZOOM posted:
Have only exchanged a few mails with Adrian. Never had any business with him but his responses were fast and pretty accurate for me to get a good grasp of what he was offering. I didn't buy the EA as I was researching various ones at the time, though I liked one which could match my own risk profiles. That's that.

But reading up here his explanations, they seem to make pretty good and far better sense than angry rant of someone who didn't even lose money. From what I understand Adrian made him over 50% gain with his EA and he didn't even fully pay for the service - assuming both sides are telling us the truth. Why should I, or anyone else for that matter, have any sympathy for someone whining he made money!???? 🙄


I think this sums it up! 😎

lense
Jun 24 2014 at 18:42
posts 3
Is clear fxbook have allowed scammers to dominate it's site and all those working for Adrian Matusiak also had the guts to say things to cover him up, the truth is not acceptable but try fall into losing your money and know how it feels, Adrian had those who paid him money in which he collects at least 1000 dollars from them and won't give them robot and ask for more money claiming the money he collects is for license and yet he holds on to robot and it's license after collecting their money, and why not refund their 1000 if they ask for their money for he never gave nothing to them but baiting them into collecting first payments of at least a thousand from them, if after he refuse to refund their money after a long time those in fear will eventually come out to speak and mention his name and reveal his total plan of how his been scamming them.

Adrian Matusiak (adrian8891)
Jun 24 2014 at 18:53
posts 696
I have to deny!

Sorry but that person have paid only part of sum for robot so how could I give him the product?
2ndly - his brother (if it even exist) has WITHDRAWLED money so I cannot make our transaction what was trading with his money till profit reach rest of sum to pay for product.

Now, because of his brother I have to back him part of money? NO. Why ? Because our agreement was other and I don't care about this. I gave him few opporunities to take, I showed him that robot is making profit (after few dollars left on account after withdrawal).

So, dear @lense , try to learn read and give a break to Your working on high torque brain because it might explode ;)


Btw. User who have problem with his '$1000' is already agreed to join my PAMM and earn money there to pay rest of sum for robot. I think that this case is over.

Beside, please read again all my post and posts of other people WHO ARE NOT WORKING FOR ME.

Best regards,
Adrian Matusiak

PAMM MANAGER // Professional Fund Manager
VIP (makeitrain)
Jun 24 2014 at 18:53
posts 212
lense posted:
Is clear fxbook have allowed scammers to dominate it's site and all those working for Adrian Matusiak also had the guts to say things to cover him up, the truth is not acceptable but try fall into losing your money and know how it feels, Adrian had those who paid him money in which he collects at least 1000 dollars from them and won't give them robot and ask for more money claiming the money he collects is for license and yet he holds on to robot and it's license after collecting their money, and why not refund their 1000 if they ask for their money for he never gave nothing to them but baiting them into collecting first payments of at least a thousand from them, if after he refuse to refund their money after a long time those in fear will eventually come out to speak and mention his name and reveal his total plan of how his been scamming them.



Until then you got nothing, either bring hard proof or if someone with like 100 +posts agrees with you then maybe we look at you seriously.

Get rich or just die
Ingimundur
Jun 24 2014 at 20:18
posts 12
lense posted:
Is clear fxbook have allowed scammers to dominate it's site and all those working for Adrian Matusiak also had the guts to say things to cover him up, the truth is not acceptable but try fall into losing your money and know how it feels, Adrian had those who paid him money in which he collects at least 1000 dollars from them and won't give them robot and ask for more money claiming the money he collects is for license and yet he holds on to robot and it's license after collecting their money, and why not refund their 1000 if they ask for their money for he never gave nothing to them but baiting them into collecting first payments of at least a thousand from them, if after he refuse to refund their money after a long time those in fear will eventually come out to speak and mention his name and reveal his total plan of how his been scamming them.


This Lense guy is quite amuzing 😁

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit."
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