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forex_trader_12567
會員從May 29, 2010開始
258帖子
Aug 09, 2011 at 15:40
wanna join, but they said, if we use micro account fxopen, they won't decided it by 100. for example: we deposit usd 10, fxopen will recognize usd 1000 (micro account). after a month let say gain usd 600, then we have to pay 30% of usd 600 (not usd 6).
if i have usd 10000 (real), maybe i'll join. :), unfortunately, i only have usd 10000 (micro account) :P
if i have usd 10000 (real), maybe i'll join. :), unfortunately, i only have usd 10000 (micro account) :P
會員從Sep 18, 2010開始
21帖子
Aug 10, 2011 at 07:46
no comment
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Aug 15, 2011 at 15:29
(已編輯Aug 15, 2011 at 15:39)
I have been using Genial Invest for almost 3 months (3 days shy of it). May 18-Jun 5 in a small GoMarkets account. Since Jun 6 in an Alpari UK account. Account is http://www.myfxbook.com/members/rsmereka/real-alpari-uk/101886 Note that this account has been open a long time. To focus on Genial Invest, look at Jun 6 to now. Over 219% gain since Jun 6 as of right now.
According to Google right now, #1 source of Genial Invest information outside of the Genial Invest website is Pipcop.com at
http://www.pipcop.com/forums/current-live-robot-reviews/415-genial-invest.html
Rick
According to Google right now, #1 source of Genial Invest information outside of the Genial Invest website is Pipcop.com at
http://www.pipcop.com/forums/current-live-robot-reviews/415-genial-invest.html
Rick
會員從Jan 14, 2010開始
411帖子
Aug 16, 2011 at 23:38
This is a SCAM/Martingale EA = Account Blower -> This happens sooner or later but HAPPENS.
Good Luck.
Good Luck.
Money makes more money $ ... $$$
Aug 17, 2011 at 08:00
Well, I don't think you have any idea as what Martingale actually is or you have ever traded yourself. I also don't think that you have any idea how Genial trades. Believe me just looking at history on FXbook doesn't say a whole lot to a newbie.
No!!😂 it is not grid system or Martingale just because it opens trades at different levels. Hell i do it all the time. What it does now is range trading. The system does not increase the lot size and it actually decreases the lot size if the market condition is not ideal. It will certainly lose sometimes but will it BLOW you account?Well 3 to 4 percent of the account is used for each trade set. It takes a whole lot of consecutive lousy trading to blow up your account which from the history up to now, it is not likely.
primevalea posted:
This is a SCAM/Martingale EA = Account Blower -> This happens sooner or later but HAPPENS.
Good Luck.
Aug 17, 2011 at 08:13
Mr. Smart,
What do you call opening trades in different levels and closing at the same level? For some reason I thought it is Grid! Now, it is ok if you make money with grid, the problem is risk management! why is the stoploss of this EA?! I guess -200%. Prove me wrong please. Are you somehow related to this gentleman? or may be you are the big boss?! either way I thank you for the comment which didn't really make sense.
What do you call opening trades in different levels and closing at the same level? For some reason I thought it is Grid! Now, it is ok if you make money with grid, the problem is risk management! why is the stoploss of this EA?! I guess -200%. Prove me wrong please. Are you somehow related to this gentleman? or may be you are the big boss?! either way I thank you for the comment which didn't really make sense.
reza1243 posted:
Well, I don't think you have any idea as what Martingale actually is or you have ever traded yourself. I also don't think that you have any idea how Genial trades. Believe me just looking at history on FXbook doesn't say a whole lot to a newbie.
No!!😂 it is not grid system or Martingale just because it opens trades at different levels. Hell i do it all the time. What it does now is range trading. The system does not increase the lot size and it actually decreases the lot size if the market condition is not ideal. It will certainly lose sometimes but will it BLOW you account?Well 3 to 4 percent of the account is used for each trade set. It takes a whole lot of consecutive lousy trading to blow up your account which from the history up to now, it is not likely.primevalea posted:
This is a SCAM/Martingale EA = Account Blower -> This happens sooner or later but HAPPENS.
Good Luck.
會員從Jan 14, 2010開始
411帖子
Aug 17, 2011 at 17:37
4xmananger posted:
WARNING......
BEWARE OF DEALING WITH THIS PERSON. HE IS NOT DOING PROPER MONEY MANAGEMENT., HE WILL AGREE WITH INVESTORS REGARDING STOP LOSS, TAKE PROFIT AND LOT SIZE. THEN HE WILL CHANGE IT ACCORDING TO HIS WISH..
HIS IS NOT KEEPING THE WORDS.. KEEP ON CHANGING...(B....D)
HE ALREADY BLEW UP 700$ EUROS FROM MY ACCOUNT.. SO BE CARFULE DEALING WITH HIM.. DONT GIVE ANY ACCOUNT TO THIS PERSON, HE DONT CARE THE INVESTOR'S HARD EARNED MONEY..
HE IS DOING GAMBLING...
I agree 100%, this one is just another scam...
Sooner or later something like this will happen to your account with this type of scam EAs:
mt4i.com/users/eurosmarter-bfr
Money makes more money $ ... $$$
Aug 17, 2011 at 22:37
Yeah Genial is my cousin oh no I am Mr. Genial..Oh no he is my neighbor...
I seriously advise you to go and learn about the subjects that you'r trying so hard to make a point. is genail bad?don't invest..
BTW. just to make sure everyone gets this, I have absolutely no affiliation with this product. Just joined this almost 3 weeks ago and liked the style and money management. on a $2000 test account it traded 1-1 with 300 pips hard S/L on the first entry. 5 open positions with different distance to the S/L. A total of 1 mini lot. I did calculate what I would lose, it was $150 if I remember correctly. the TP was the same as SL.
Now I have an account size almost $11000 after the trail and it trades with 0.7 lots has 10 positions open for total of 7 mini lots. S/L from the first entry is 314 pips 4281-4600. Is this so hard for you to calculate the risk and reward ratio etc..? Go look for something less sophisticated..
I just can't refuse to make a comment on these newbie traders that see everything so.....laughable.
well a grid system is basically a buy or sell or sometimes both position taking based on mathematical calculation of certain daily range without respect of any sort for the market conditions or trend. Now, some stupid futures are sometimes added to this and that is martingale that means that if the position go's against you after certain number of pips, a new position is taken with double the size and it go's further against you it will be increased even more etc..
I seriously advise you to go and learn about the subjects that you'r trying so hard to make a point. is genail bad?don't invest..
BTW. just to make sure everyone gets this, I have absolutely no affiliation with this product. Just joined this almost 3 weeks ago and liked the style and money management. on a $2000 test account it traded 1-1 with 300 pips hard S/L on the first entry. 5 open positions with different distance to the S/L. A total of 1 mini lot. I did calculate what I would lose, it was $150 if I remember correctly. the TP was the same as SL.
Now I have an account size almost $11000 after the trail and it trades with 0.7 lots has 10 positions open for total of 7 mini lots. S/L from the first entry is 314 pips 4281-4600. Is this so hard for you to calculate the risk and reward ratio etc..? Go look for something less sophisticated..
I just can't refuse to make a comment on these newbie traders that see everything so.....laughable.
well a grid system is basically a buy or sell or sometimes both position taking based on mathematical calculation of certain daily range without respect of any sort for the market conditions or trend. Now, some stupid futures are sometimes added to this and that is martingale that means that if the position go's against you after certain number of pips, a new position is taken with double the size and it go's further against you it will be increased even more etc..
shayan posted:
Mr. Smart,
What do you call opening trades in different levels and closing at the same level? For some reason I thought it is Grid! Now, it is ok if you make money with grid, the problem is risk management! why is the stoploss of this EA?! I guess -200%. Prove me wrong please. Are you somehow related to this gentleman? or may be you are the big boss?! either way I thank you for the comment which didn't really make sense.reza1243 posted:
Well, I don't think you have any idea as what Martingale actually is or you have ever traded yourself. I also don't think that you have any idea how Genial trades. Believe me just looking at history on FXbook doesn't say a whole lot to a newbie.
No!!😂 it is not grid system or Martingale just because it opens trades at different levels. Hell i do it all the time. What it does now is range trading. The system does not increase the lot size and it actually decreases the lot size if the market condition is not ideal. It will certainly lose sometimes but will it BLOW you account?Well 3 to 4 percent of the account is used for each trade set. It takes a whole lot of consecutive lousy trading to blow up your account which from the history up to now, it is not likely.primevalea posted:
This is a SCAM/Martingale EA = Account Blower -> This happens sooner or later but HAPPENS.
Good Luck.
forex_trader_32776
會員從Mar 28, 2011開始
942帖子
Sep 06, 2011 at 07:28
ForexScam posted:
All sounds terrific but when you need to add more funds during a period of Drawdown such as on
04.13.2011 13:40 Deposit 200.00
04.08.2011 22:35 Deposit 100.00
It displays that the strategy has a significant level of risk involved.
Yes, trading is risky and everyone is aware of this, but safety precautions and stopout levels are necessary for longevity.
Adding more funds to sustain the longevity is not a solution but an act of desperate measures.
Updated 10 hours ago at 93% and EURUSD continues it's DOWN trend. Will more funds be added to save this account again or will EURUSD bounce back enough for them to make some huge gains. Isn't trading fun?
forex_trader_32776
會員從Mar 28, 2011開始
942帖子
Sep 06, 2011 at 07:29
fitness09 posted:
Can you company please refund me 30% of the live account your robot blew up? Thank you.
when did your account lose 30% ?
forex_trader_32776
會員從Mar 28, 2011開始
942帖子
Sep 06, 2011 at 07:37
EliteFxPT posted:
MARTINGALE is not a SCAM...it's a system, and even if genial invest use this system so far it's working.
A system that will inherently fail, which is sold and or used to manage funds is a scam because
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scam
: a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation
: a scheme for making money by dishonest means
Sep 06, 2011 at 07:43
this is not fraudulent or deceptive... if you use the settings he recommends you should be fine with his correct money management.
What I DON'T like about this is that there are a LOT of trades being open on the same pair.. and on the same direction... then the Moves on the SL don't make me feel confident. But so far he's working pretty good, trades are closing with profits at the end of each week.
If people are loosing money with this maybe people don't have the required funds to run this. I'm still testing this on a small account and right now the account still lives but.. there's a MOTHERLOAD of open trades with loads of negative pips floating around. Let's see what happens.
What I DON'T like about this is that there are a LOT of trades being open on the same pair.. and on the same direction... then the Moves on the SL don't make me feel confident. But so far he's working pretty good, trades are closing with profits at the end of each week.
If people are loosing money with this maybe people don't have the required funds to run this. I'm still testing this on a small account and right now the account still lives but.. there's a MOTHERLOAD of open trades with loads of negative pips floating around. Let's see what happens.
