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Use of martingale strategy

Adrian Matusiak (adrian8891)
Oct 25 2010 at 12:05
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pearlo posted:
    
fortenova posted:
    
pearlo posted:
    https://www.bkforexadvisors.com/video/matringale-like-a-marketmaker/

i applied this martingale strategy but made some adjustments.

and the results are good so far.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/pearlo/fund-e/30220


hehe... same - system deleted by owner

What happened to the good results - account deleted.


got greedy and made some more adjustments that turned out to be very bad. i uploaded again the account but used a custom date now, start anew again. lesson learned, dont be greedy. :-)

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/pearlo/fund-b/33509

PAMM MANAGER // Professional Fund Manager
WorldTrader
Nov 10 2010 at 00:01
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Martinale is Stractegy is a knive of two edges, i can cut ur enemy, and cut u as well, meaning it can make u a huge profit, but same time can crash u out, i better not try that

DoubleTrap (ForexSeeker)
Nov 10 2010 at 02:28
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You just need to learn and master your skill of offensive and defensive.

Beside there is always a Demo practice ground for you to face your most fear.

Have you meet my 'Kill Bill 5' yet ? He is a killer to kill or to be kill.

So you just has to limit how much pocket money he can use every month.

If lucky , he kill a lot and cover his next month pocket money.

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What manual strategy you use for Slow But Steady ? Is are real 100k account or cents account of 1k ?

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WorldTrader
Nov 10 2010 at 05:15
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ForexSeeker posted:
    You just need to learn and master your skill of offensive and defensive.

Beside there is always a Demo practice ground for you to face your most fear.

Have you meet my 'Kill Bill 5' yet ? He is a killer to kill or to be kill.

So you just has to limit how much pocket money he can use every month.

If lucky , he kill a lot and cover his next month pocket money.

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What manual strategy you use for Slow But Steady ? Is are real 100k account or cents account of 1k ?

 That is my first deal of 100k, i must confess it is too good trading big bucks, i was suprise when the client deposited that amount, althoug, it took 4 weeks b4 i convience him to put such an amount, i used costumized indicators, and 90 percent scalping too, but i wait long tosee the direction of the market b4 i place trades, that is the slow and steady there, no rush

DoubleTrap (ForexSeeker)
Nov 10 2010 at 13:22
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Hmmm.. let see. 100k, $50 per pip. 1k == $0.50 per pip

So your tactic also work on 1k Account.

Normally people define slow and steady is 100k Acc earn about 5% per month.
But you 1 month already earn 50% more. Should be call FAST and Steady already.

You interested to share your manual tactic here ?

You can also PM me if interested to make your manual tactic become Automatic.




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Michael (ForexManagerPro)
Nov 11 2010 at 00:45
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this features are needed to trade martingale, d'lambert, fibonacchi succesfull

Order Management:
Adaptive Pipstep (25/50)
Pip Step Factor Calculation
Maximum Orders
Maximum Slippage
Time Filter
Reverse and No Reverse Order Execution

Entry Management:
Order Entry signals with multi time frame indicators
Order Entry signals without multi time frame indicators - highest risk level, pure Price Action

News Management:
Adaptive Lot Size Calculation on Low, Medium high impact news
Multi Timeframe Lot Size on News Level Impact
Minutes Before and After Calculation (how long will be new lot size calculation active)

Basket Management:
Minimum Recovery of Floating Basket (how much the floating must recover to open orders again)
Maximum Floating Basket (if reached no new orders)
Adaptive Lot Size Calculation based on 3 Percentage Levels of Floating Basket

Money Management:
Lot Size Calculation Based on Equity or Fixed (mm=true)
Max Lot Size (what your broker accept)
Minimum Lot Size (what your broker accept)
Lot Size Factor Calulation
Soft-Martingale

Loss Management:
Emergency Close
Max Basket Loss
Max Pair Loss

Profit Management:
Equity Profit (if reached stop trading complete)
Advanced Trailing Profit
Adaptive Secure Profit
Fixed Take Profit or ECN style

WorldTrader
Nov 11 2010 at 02:16
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WorldTrader posted:
    
ForexSeeker posted:
    You just need to learn and master your skill of offensive and defensive.

Beside there is always a Demo practice ground for you to face your most fear.

Have you meet my 'Kill Bill 5' yet ? He is a killer to kill or to be kill.

So you just has to limit how much pocket money he can use every month.

If lucky , he kill a lot and cover his next month pocket money.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What manual strategy you use for Slow But Steady ? Is are real 100k account or cents account of 1k ?

 That is my first deal of 100k, i must confess it is too good trading big bucks, i was suprise when the client deposited that amount, althoug, it took 4 weeks b4 i convience him to put such an amount, i used costumized indicators, and 90 percent scalping too, but i wait long tosee the direction of the market b4 i place trades, that is the slow and steady there, no rush


Would hv love to share, but tha stractegy is all what i hv worked and discovered in the last 3years, so the stractegy is priceless

DoubleTrap (ForexSeeker)
Nov 11 2010 at 11:54
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Factor of Martingale blow up can be :
1. Trade too frequent without indicator ( adding indicator will reduce Risk also reduce Gain)
2. Market spike and suddenly change trend with no break ( If trend strike more than 300 pips it blow even with 12 level )
3. The root of problems is Martingale where it will blow up when market go crazy spike Storm Trend.

Normally the precaution of this Risk is by :
1. Protect level to break even : Where let said after reach 6 level, it will close all trade when Floating == 0.
2. Mass Hedge to the correct trend : Probably already no money to Hedge or after Hedge the trend did not continue.
3. Stop EA and manual monitoring and trade.
4. Increase capital to wait market come back : But sometimes market never come back.
5. Use a good First go in indicator : But there still a chance where first indicator fail (Market News, sudden change of trend in storm speed)

I have try to implement Step 4 + Step 5 : Using 10k Acc, add in Rebel Martin Logic, Max Risk 12 level martingale.
BackTest using 30 Minute Chart :
2000 : earn 2806
2001 : earn 2577
2002 : earn 2587
2003 : earn 2896
2004 : earn 2898
2005 : earn 2794
2006 : earn 2358
2007 : earn 1986
2008 : earn 2095
2009 : earn 3092
2010 Nov 11 : earn 2549

Overall Average 2.6% ROI per month. on back test.
So on Demo one month should be earn 260 per month using 10k.

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This is another back test that Turn Off Friday with 10k Acc, which give average return $208 per month.
Actual demo forward test not yet conducted yet.

So how much return per month is good for 10k Acc. If put in bank how much fixed deposit interest can get?



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Tom
ttfx
Nov 12 2010 at 18:50
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The whole idea doesn't make any sense. There's always some trading strategy (trading system) inside and if this strategy is not viable (won't make money in the long run without martingale), then the whole model is doomed to fail, regardless of when/how much to withdraw etc.

Let's take a true random system with equal stop and target; its equity curve will go down. That's because of the transaction costs involved in any single trade. Use martingale and the curve will grow as long as consecutive loss count doesn't exceed the margin. You can attempt to withdraw any portions in any time intervals and set them aside to be available for account refunding as it goes busted from time to time. But all these efforts will prove worthless - in the (very) long run, you will lose exactly the same % of capital as if you would run the system without martingale. It's a closed loop of money in a not-so-zero (cause of transaction costs) sum game.

If the underlying strategy is great, it doesn't need martingale. If it's poor - then the martingaling is only shifting the inevitable long-term loss into future. Thinking in a way 'I'll withdraw on regular basis and THEREFORE it is allowed to bust from time to time' is totally flawed imho, it's a gamble hoping for luck. Seeing the profits grow wonderfully over some periods of time is a loser's illusion only; a merely psychological issue. No offense to anyone! But do the math and settle for a strategy with a profitable core if you want to make money in this game.

edit: I'm talking about raw 100% mechanical martingale with poor system beneath, not about the sophisticated variants which have their limits and special market-based rules (some systems by Nanningbob @ FF for example) - they can be a great complement to a good system imo.

WorldTrader
Nov 13 2010 at 06:01
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