Ivan
(StoneHeart)
Členem od Dec 21, 2010
131 příspěvků
Jan 26 2017 at 10:10
There is no difference between MT4 and MT5, if You do everything manually.
The problem is for those , who use Experts, especially if they cant write programs.
The problem is for those , who use Experts, especially if they cant write programs.
Small GAIN, big WIN
vontogr
(togr)
Členem od Feb 22, 2011
4862 příspěvků
Jan 26 2017 at 13:11
StoneHeart posted:
There is no difference , if You do everything manually.
The problem is for those , who use Experts, especially if they cant write programs.
@StoneHeart
MT5 does not hedge
MT4 does

Jan 26 2017 at 13:15
stian posted:
As execution is worse, and broker support is lacking. Ctrader is much prefered to MT5. And unless they make a compatibility layer for MT5 to run MT4 EAs, MT5 will have a hard time getting any dominant market share.
There haven't been any meaningful upgrades to MT4 lately anyway.
mql4 has been updated frequency and the merge to mql5 shouldn't be that difficult when coding in #strict mode. When that day comes, I'll say bye bye to metaquotes for good and start using ctrader/calgo only. cTrader offers fix api for all account holders now. It's best to learn c# and migrate away from mql all together.
Ivan
(StoneHeart)
Členem od Dec 21, 2010
131 příspěvků
Jan 26 2017 at 13:22
@StoneHeart
MT5 does not hedge
MT4 doesThat is NOT TRUE. : https://www.metaquotes.net/en/company/news/4678
Even MetaQuots-Demo support Hedging.
Actually there are 3 type of MT5 : (old)NETTING, (new)HEDGING, (new)EXCHANGE :
https://www.mql5.com/ru/docs/constants/environment_state/accountinformation#enum_account_margin_mode
MT5 does not hedge
MT4 doesThat is NOT TRUE. : https://www.metaquotes.net/en/company/news/4678
Even MetaQuots-Demo support Hedging.
Actually there are 3 type of MT5 : (old)NETTING, (new)HEDGING, (new)EXCHANGE :
https://www.mql5.com/ru/docs/constants/environment_state/accountinformation#enum_account_margin_mode
Small GAIN, big WIN
XharpScalper
Členem od Apr 25, 2012
285 příspěvků
Jan 26 2017 at 16:54
You cannot import history data in mt5 very fatal drawback.
Alexandre
(AlGauthier)
Členem od Nov 13, 2015
35 příspěvků
Jan 26 2017 at 16:58
I read a lot about the pros and cons of MT5 but I believe it is only a matter of time for MetaQuotes to fix all issues and pick up the missing pieces to make MT5 truly superior. I plan to give it a try at some point in the near future.
A knight's tale!
XharpScalper
Členem od Apr 25, 2012
285 příspěvků
Jan 26 2017 at 16:59
ya when all issues are fixed , no harm in using it until then no mt5.
vontogr
(togr)
Členem od Feb 22, 2011
4862 příspěvků
Jan 27 2017 at 08:55
StoneHeart posted:That is NOT TRUE. : https://www.metaquotes.net/en/company/news/4678
@StoneHeart
MT5 does not hedge
MT4 does
Even MetaQuots-Demo support Hedging.
Actually there are 3 type of MT5 : (old)NETTING, (new)HEDGING, (new)EXCHANGE :
https://www.mql5.com/ru/docs/constants/environment_state/accountinformation#enum_account_margin_mode
Well not exactly,
MT5 client allows it but when I tried to trade it did not hedge so it also depends on kind of mt5 broker offers
And here we goes MT5 bring a lot of confusion
vontogr
(togr)
Členem od Feb 22, 2011
4862 příspěvků
Jan 27 2017 at 08:55
StoneHeart posted:That is NOT TRUE. : https://www.metaquotes.net/en/company/news/4678
@StoneHeart
MT5 does not hedge
MT4 does
Even MetaQuots-Demo support Hedging.
Actually there are 3 type of MT5 : (old)NETTING, (new)HEDGING, (new)EXCHANGE :
https://www.mql5.com/ru/docs/constants/environment_state/accountinformation#enum_account_margin_mode
And it is beta version, if you trade for real do they use beta?
Ivan
(StoneHeart)
Členem od Dec 21, 2010
131 příspěvků
Jan 27 2017 at 09:09
I use MT5 version 5.00 build 1495 from 9.Dec.2016 with HEDGING, and it is not Beta
Small GAIN, big WIN
vontogr
(togr)
Členem od Feb 22, 2011
4862 příspěvků
Jan 29 2017 at 07:24
StoneHeart posted:
I use MT5 version 5.00 build 1495 from 9.Dec.2016 with HEDGING, and it is not Beta
OK i trust you. I dont like MT5 anyway.
Fredrick
(shirley_F)
Členem od Nov 25, 2015
41 příspěvků
Jan 29 2017 at 07:26
togr posted:
MT5 client allows it but when I tried to trade it did not hedge so it also depends on kind of mt5 broker offers
And here we goes MT5 bring a lot of confusion
Good that you mentioned this. When it comes to confusion, I guess it is more related to the broker setup rather than the platform. As I read in other comments, some people have the hedge option in normal live (non-beta) environment.
mlawson71
Členem od Dec 11, 2015
1487 příspěvků
Jan 29 2017 at 07:36
Metaquotes added hedging to MT5 a while ago (https://smnweekly.com/2016/03/25/mt5-gets-new-beta-version-finally-features-hedging/). It was what finally made the platform more popular to begin with it, many people didn't want to use it because it lacked that feature.
Baldo
(BaldoN)
Členem od Feb 12, 2016
522 příspěvků
Feb 01 2017 at 11:17
Stopping development of MT4 does not mean MT4 will disappear. Perhaps not new builds will be released, but not stopping the most widespread trading terminal in world.
MT4 will stay for many years forward.
MT4 will stay for many years forward.
vontogr
(togr)
Členem od Feb 22, 2011
4862 příspěvků
Feb 02 2017 at 11:26
BaldoN posted:
Stopping development of MT4 does not mean MT4 will disappear. Perhaps not new builds will be released, but not stopping the most widespread trading terminal in world.
MT4 will stay for many years forward.
They are still releasing updates
but they also increased fees for brokers for mt4
to push them to mt5
Baldo
(BaldoN)
Členem od Feb 12, 2016
522 příspěvků
Feb 03 2017 at 13:08
togr posted:BaldoN posted:
Stopping development of MT4 does not mean MT4 will disappear. Perhaps not new builds will be released, but not stopping the most widespread trading terminal in world.
MT4 will stay for many years forward.
They are still releasing updates
but they also increased fees for brokers for mt4
to push them to mt5
I believe this would be long process and the MT4 will work for many years. The switch from MT4 to MT5 will require a lot of work for the brokers itself and changes in contracts, accounts, compliances and etc.
Something I have heart and not sure if it is true or not, but: 'Metaquotes have left a port in MT5 constantly open and they could have access to your terminal' - This is what I have heart and repeat - not sure whether it is correct :)
vontogr
(togr)
Členem od Feb 22, 2011
4862 příspěvků
Feb 03 2017 at 13:09
BaldoN posted:togr posted:BaldoN posted:
Stopping development of MT4 does not mean MT4 will disappear. Perhaps not new builds will be released, but not stopping the most widespread trading terminal in world.
MT4 will stay for many years forward.
They are still releasing updates
but they also increased fees for brokers for mt4
to push them to mt5
I believe this would be long process and the MT4 will work for many years. The switch from MT4 to MT5 will require a lot of work for the brokers itself and changes in contracts, accounts, compliances and etc.
Something I have heart and not sure if it is true or not, but: 'Metaquotes have left a port in MT5 constantly open and they could have access to your terminal' - This is what I have heart and repeat - not sure whether it is correct :)
Well that is how client (mt4 terminal) works, it is sending info and receiving info from/to server. This happen always.
mlawson71
Členem od Dec 11, 2015
1487 příspěvků
Feb 04 2017 at 12:41
The popularity of Metatrader 5 has grown even more in the past months, according to fintech company Metaquotes, as a number of large international brokers adopted the platform and started offering it to their clients. (https://smnweekly.com/2017/02/02/fintech-metaquotes-mt5-brokers-grow-in-number-include-bcs-forex-instaforex-liteforex/) It looks like the measures they took to shoehorn it on the market really had an effect.
Nina
(NEEnah)
Členem od Mar 25, 2015
71 příspěvků
Feb 09 2017 at 11:06
mlawson71 posted:
The popularity of Metatrader 5 has grown even more in the past months, according to fintech company Metaquotes, as a number of large international brokers adopted the platform and started offering it to their clients. (https://smnweekly.com/2017/02/02/fintech-metaquotes-mt5-brokers-grow-in-number-include-bcs-forex-instaforex-liteforex/) It looks like the measures they took to shoehorn it on the market really had an effect.
That's true. I am checking on demo the MT5 just to be prepared for the future as I believe more and more brokers will start offering it. It seems to have cool features, like for instance to save a chart as a png file in an easy way without screenshots etc. Will continue digging deeper into it.